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"Subscribers Only Tavern"
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✭Just want to say, I really hate how the RP has fallen to "tavern roleplay." Super bummed about that. But what can you do? I wish more people were willing to RP out in the PvE zones. Delves. Anywhere.
I'd rather see a cross-faction PvE zone that is for ESO Plus. As I keep saying. Not everyone cares about PvP or the war aspect of this game.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Forget basing it on subscriptions. We should really base it on who spends the most money, shouldn't we? Is that not the whole idea behind it?
We should have one area for people who spend $100+/month, another for $50-$100, %20-$50, and then lastly the >$20/month crowd. Sorry ESO Plus members that means you guys.
Obviously people who have more money to spend are of a higher calibre than those cheapskate content renters that make up the ESO Plus crowd.
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I used to be opposed to this idea too but then I thought, subscriber or not, I don't care to be around people who think they're better than everyone else on the merit of being part of a group they paid to get into. Never have. I didn't join a sorority in college, I won't join the neighborhood country club now, and to me, if these kinds of people want to hang out in their own exclusive little club in game to feel better about their lives, why not let them if it doesn't affect my game play? I can have more fun without these types.AshySamurai wrote: »
Hey you know what - you're right, this has been discussed to death, but the more of this stuff I see, I start to think maybe this is a good idea. Players who think they're special and better than everyone else can have their very own special place to go stroke each others' e-peens and be special together and those of us who think they're full of nonsense can just not go to those places and continue to enjoy the game without them.AshySamurai wrote: »It was already discussed. IMO very bad idea to make someone more special.
Well, yeah. Why not? Maybe it's not so bad as I thought. You made me look at this question differently.Happy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
Remembering better days of less RNG in all the things.9 -
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With the current benefits to being a subscriber.... that's all a subscription really is.
I think I'm going to add "subscriber tavern" to my post about subscriber benefits!
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/150450/eso-subscription-benefits-suggestionsWhat ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
Click HERE to discuss.
Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!0 -
Valn✭✭✭✭✭
This is not a F2P game. Everyone has to pay to play it hence BUY-TO-PLAY.
well okay then so you're saying you want there to be no difference between sub players and b2p players?5 -
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This is not a F2P game. Everyone has to pay to play it hence BUY-TO-PLAY.
well okay then so you're saying you want there to be no difference between sub players and b2p players?
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Valn✭✭✭✭✭
This is not a F2P game. Everyone has to pay to play it hence BUY-TO-PLAY.
well okay then so you're saying you want there to be no difference between sub players and b2p players?
so by that reaction you must agree with me that subscribers should get extra benefits compared to b2p players6 -
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This is not a F2P game. Everyone has to pay to play it hence BUY-TO-PLAY.
well okay then so you're saying you want there to be no difference between sub players and b2p players?
so by that reaction you must agree with me that subscribers should get extra benefits compared to b2p players
No.0 -
Valn✭✭✭✭✭
This is not a F2P game. Everyone has to pay to play it hence BUY-TO-PLAY.
well okay then so you're saying you want there to be no difference between sub players and b2p players?
so by that reaction you must agree with me that subscribers should get extra benefits compared to b2p players
No.
Therefore you're saying subscribers should not get extra benefits to those who just B2P.
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✭✭✭✭✭I really hope this false elitism based on subscribing is nipped in the bud. I say that as a committed subscriber since launch, and into the long-term future - we are not special, in fact we're no different as players to non-subscribers. Heck, in money terms we'll doubtless contribute a lot less than some of the B2P players who go overboard on cash store purchases.8 -
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✭Sphinx2318 wrote: »Taverns are overrated since ZOS will be nerfing Mead in 1.6.
You'll be able to purchase the more potent brews in the Crown Store.0 -
Soulshine✭✭✭✭✭
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This is not a F2P game. Everyone has to pay to play it hence BUY-TO-PLAY.
well okay then so you're saying you want there to be no difference between sub players and b2p players?
so by that reaction you must agree with me that subscribers should get extra benefits compared to b2p players
No.
Therefore you're saying subscribers should not get extra benefits to those who just B2P.
Look I get that you think you are supposed to get "better treatment" than a player who does not sub. I do not agree.
Whatever benefits you get as a subscriber, they are already are "extra" from someone who will choose not to subscribe come the transition. That you don't think those benefits are not enough is clearly your issue.Edited by Soulshine on February 11, 2015 7:31PM11 -
Valn✭✭✭✭✭
Look I get that you think you are supposed to get "better treatment" than a player who does not sub. I do not agree.
Whatever benefits you get as a subscriber, they are already are "extra" from someone who will choose not to subscribe come the transition. That you don't think those benefits are not enough is clearly your issue.
So you don't think that someone who is subscribing to a game should get extra benefits compared to a freebie. Okay lmao
And if you think it's just my issue, that's your personal opinion.7 -
Soulshine✭✭✭✭✭
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Look I get that you think you are supposed to get "better treatment" than a player who does not sub. I do not agree.
Whatever benefits you get as a subscriber, they are already are "extra" from someone who will choose not to subscribe come the transition. That you don't think those benefits are not enough is clearly your issue.
So you don't think that someone who is subscribing to a game should get extra benefits compared to a freebie. Okay lmao
And if you think it's just my issue, that's your personal opinion.
It is a fact that you have the BUY the game to play it. You cannot download the game without doing so.
It is a fact that you have to either subscribe to the game (PAY) to get continued access to new content or else buy it via DLC purchase (PAY)
There is nothing "freebie" about it.8 -
Valn✭✭✭✭✭
Look I get that you think you are supposed to get "better treatment" than a player who does not sub. I do not agree.
Whatever benefits you get as a subscriber, they are already are "extra" from someone who will choose not to subscribe come the transition. That you don't think those benefits are not enough is clearly your issue.
So you don't think that someone who is subscribing to a game should get extra benefits compared to a freebie. Okay lmao
And if you think it's just my issue, that's your personal opinion.
It is a fact that you have the BUY the game to play it. You cannot download the game without doing so.
It is a fact that you have to either subscribe to the game (PAY) to get continued access to new content or else buy it via DLC purchase (PAY)
There is nothing "freebie" about it.
Well we can just agree to disagree.
The point here isn't about DLC, it's about benefits. Edited by Valn on February 11, 2015 7:42PM7 -
Soulshine✭✭✭✭✭
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Look I get that you think you are supposed to get "better treatment" than a player who does not sub. I do not agree.
Whatever benefits you get as a subscriber, they are already are "extra" from someone who will choose not to subscribe come the transition. That you don't think those benefits are not enough is clearly your issue.
So you don't think that someone who is subscribing to a game should get extra benefits compared to a freebie. Okay lmao
And if you think it's just my issue, that's your personal opinion.
It is a fact that you have the BUY the game to play it. You cannot download the game without doing so.
It is a fact that you have to either subscribe to the game (PAY) to get continued access to new content or else buy it via DLC purchase (PAY)
There is nothing "freebie" about it.
Well we can just agree to disagree. The point here isn't about DLC, it's about benefits.
The "benefits" among other things include having access to all current content and future content --- which will be DLCs, so yes DLCs are relevant --- as long as you keep your sub.
Asking for separate content areas is the "extra" you seem to think you should have for choosing how and when you are going to pay to play the game.
I do not agree that is a constructive suggestion for the game. So yes, happy to disagree.Edited by Soulshine on February 11, 2015 7:48PM5 -
EölMPK✭✭✭
Look I get that you think you are supposed to get "better treatment" than a player who does not sub. I do not agree.
Whatever benefits you get as a subscriber, they are already are "extra" from someone who will choose not to subscribe come the transition. That you don't think those benefits are not enough is clearly your issue.
So you don't think that someone who is subscribing to a game should get extra benefits compared to a freebie. Okay lmao
And if you think it's just my issue, that's your personal opinion.
It is a fact that you have the BUY the game to play it. You cannot download the game without doing so.
It is a fact that you have to either subscribe to the game (PAY) to get continued access to new content or else buy it via DLC purchase (PAY)
There is nothing "freebie" about it.
Ignore the kid. You can see his wisdom when he call a freebie someone who BOUGHT the game, but don't pay the sub.
You know, there is a social test made some time ago, there was an ice-cream shop that sell a really good ice-cream for a expensive price. One day, they begin selling the same ice-cream, with other name and for half price, and people keep saying that the expensive ice-cream was much better than the cheaper (and again, they were exactly the same ice-cream).
Humanity
Edited by EölMPK on February 11, 2015 7:49PMEöl[MPK]
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Eölbr - Dunmer magicka necro
Drizztbr - Khajiit stamina nb"In my thoughts and in my dreams, they're always in my mind
These songs of hobbits, dwarves and men, and elves
Come close your eyes, you can see them too..."7 -
Valn✭✭✭✭✭
Look I get that you think you are supposed to get "better treatment" than a player who does not sub. I do not agree.
Whatever benefits you get as a subscriber, they are already are "extra" from someone who will choose not to subscribe come the transition. That you don't think those benefits are not enough is clearly your issue.
So you don't think that someone who is subscribing to a game should get extra benefits compared to a freebie. Okay lmao
And if you think it's just my issue, that's your personal opinion.
It is a fact that you have the BUY the game to play it. You cannot download the game without doing so.
It is a fact that you have to either subscribe to the game (PAY) to get continued access to new content or else buy it via DLC purchase (PAY)
There is nothing "freebie" about it.
Well we can just agree to disagree. The point here isn't about DLC, it's about benefits.
The "benefits" among other things include having access to all current content and future content --- which will be DLCs, so yes DLCs are relevant --- as long as you keep your sub.
Asking for separate content areas is the "extra" you seem to think you should have for choosing how and when you are going to pay to play the game.
I do not agree that is a constructive suggestion for the game. So yes, happy to disagree.
Well I think my suggestion is an excellent suggestion that would be convenient and it would be an extra little benefit for subscribers. 6 -
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I second that. That's exactly how it was in SWTOR.SWTOR has a area like this . VIP Lounge . There never anyone there . I wish they would just open it up for everyone really . I don't feel special going up there , I feel snobby .
ST:O has a VIP area too... which is empty every time I went to take a look. Why spend the server resources if noone uses them?
Subscribers already get crowns, and full access to upcoming DLC, I for one need nothing more for my subscription. Well, okay, maaaybe a free sweetroll...
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MrGhosty✭✭✭✭✭TBH we kind of already have this, most vet zones are barren. I personally spend a lot of time in Rawl'kha on my DC vet since it has all the benefits of the normal AD zone without being filled with people spamming chat every few seconds or non stop naked dance parties on the rock. (to be clear I have nothing against naked dance parties, just the lag it creates when they start creating their "party effects" while I'm trying to get my stuff sorted so I can continue on playing)
There is a difference in being wanting to have recognition for supporting a game and wanting special exclusive benefits and a VIP lounge is an example of the "exclusive benefits" club, no thank you.
As someone who has to mind every penny, I will always go for the option that makes fiscal sense. At present that is to sub, but based on what they're offering and the change in content release I don't plan to sub in the future. That doesn't make me any less devoted to the game, I'll still be running my active guild, offering myself up as cannon fodder in PvP etc so the concept of a special place where special people can go to be special and avoid the unwashed masses seems a tad ridiculous.
There is already going to be plenty caste arrangement when the B2Pers come in, I would prefer we not try to add more ways."It is a time of strife and unrest. Armies of revenants and dark spirits manifest in every corner of Tamriel. Winters grow colder and crops fail. Mystics are plagued by nightmares and portents of doom."3 -
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✭✭✭Most all games have a VIP area for subs. STO has one thats only for lifetime subscribers.0 -
Gidorick✭✭✭✭✭
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Look I get that you think you are supposed to get "better treatment" than a player who does not sub. I do not agree.
Whatever benefits you get as a subscriber, they are already are "extra" from someone who will choose not to subscribe come the transition. That you don't think those benefits are not enough is clearly your issue.
So you don't think that someone who is subscribing to a game should get extra benefits compared to a freebie. Okay lmao
And if you think it's just my issue, that's your personal opinion.
It is a fact that you have the BUY the game to play it. You cannot download the game without doing so.
It is a fact that you have to either subscribe to the game (PAY) to get continued access to new content or else buy it via DLC purchase (PAY)
There is nothing "freebie" about it.
Well we can just agree to disagree. The point here isn't about DLC, it's about benefits.
The "benefits" among other things include having access to all current content and future content --- which will be DLCs, so yes DLCs are relevant --- as long as you keep your sub.
Asking for separate content areas is the "extra" you seem to think you should have for choosing how and when you are going to pay to play the game.
I do not agree that is a constructive suggestion for the game. So yes, happy to disagree.
Well I think my suggestion is an excellent suggestion that would be convenient and it would be an extra little benefit for subscribers.
Don't worry @Valn. I agree with you. But this won't ever happen, so it's useless to argue the merits of the concept.What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
Click HERE to discuss.
Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!1 -
Gidorick✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭.There is already going to be plenty caste arrangement when the B2Pers come in, I would prefer we not try to add more ways.
there is? How so?What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
Click HERE to discuss.
Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭clocksstoppe wrote: »Please leave Rawl'Kha alone. It shouldn't become pay only
LOL!! As an EP player, that's exactly what I thought of.
For DC, you guys have Riften. AD have... Shornhelm? Evermore really doesn't have a very good arrangement.The Moot Councillor0 -
Imryll✭✭✭✭✭And I guess folks who spend more than the cost of a sub in the cash shop should get a nicer tavern than subscribers get, because they're making a larger financial contribution to the company? Silly idea is silly.8 -
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This is not a F2P game. Everyone has to pay to play it hence BUY-TO-PLAY.
well okay then so you're saying you want there to be no difference between sub players and b2p players?
so by that reaction you must agree with me that subscribers should get extra benefits compared to b2p players
No.
Therefore you're saying subscribers should not get extra benefits to those who just B2P.
Its pretty simple. You pay for what content you want the way you want to do it. Whether you pay once in a chunk with buy to play, or pretty much just rent it with a subscription. No one has it for free and if you think you're not getting your money's worth, you stop paying it. That simple.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]Edited by ZOS_ShannonM on February 18, 2015 1:44PM5 -
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✭Yes, good idea. If you dont want to pay for the game that costs money to maintain and develop.. Plus the cost of development thus far, you are a freerider, you should be less special than those that want to contribute for the continuous development and improvment of the game. As far as i am concerned, even forum access should be restricted to read only for those freeriders..
Game price might be small contribution but it is one time fee and only a very small amount of money this game needs to stay and grow better than it allready is. I really dont get it, why people want something that costs humongous amounts of money for free. I do understand that many are like myself, not much money, nut mothly subscription for most is not really that much money. If people dont have even thqat, then i would rather see those that live in such countries to get in for free somehow but still... If they had money for gaming platform, internet and house to play in. they usually also have the money to pay mothly sub but lack the will to contribute.>>PC-EU Mostly PVE. Played since BETA<<7 -
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I thought everybody had Rawl'kha. I certainly do as AD. What, did you think all veterans hang out in Gold zones? Think again.clocksstoppe wrote: »Please leave Rawl'Kha alone. It shouldn't become pay only
LOL!! As an EP player, that's exactly what I thought of.
For DC, you guys have Riften. AD have... Shornhelm? Evermore really doesn't have a very good arrangement. 3