"Subscribers Only Tavern"

Valn · February 2015

I'd love there to be a tavern or some sort of training courtyard where only subscribers can enter..sort of like a VIP area that has banks, crafting stations, vendors etc.. it would just be a place that's more convenient to go to for subs.

There could be one in each faction area, it would be a great place to find players to adventure with, to find new guild members and such.

AshySamurai · February 2015

It was already discussed. IMO very bad idea to make someone more special.

Valn · February 2015

AshySamurai wrote: »

It was already discussed. IMO very bad idea to make someone more special.

Why is it bad?

Sallington · February 2015

Valn wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

It was already discussed. IMO very bad idea to make someone more special.

Why is it bad?

Because the people that never wanted to pay money and play ESO in the first place will be jealous of the subscribers who love the game and have been supporting it all along.

We're going to see a lot of whiney individuals coming in with the F2P(B2P, whatever) transition. Hopefully most of them just stick to consoles.

Folkb · February 2015

Valn wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

It was already discussed. IMO very bad idea to make someone more special.

Why is it bad?

It's not worth the effort to bother with. $:\$

Sphinx2318 · February 2015

Taverns are overrated since ZOS will be nerfing Mead in 1.6.

bosmern_ESO · February 2015

AshySamurai wrote: »

It was already discussed. IMO very bad idea to make someone more special.

People that pay the sub fee and support the company should get better treatment then people who don't. If a player is a sub that typically means they are more serious about the game. People who play free should not have the same priority as people who do.

AshySamurai · February 2015

Valn wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

It was already discussed. IMO very bad idea to make someone more special.

Why is it bad?

Because you're making people who pay more special. Because it's ZOS policy to have access to all in game (even with DLC - you buy it and you have all access to all content and places there). I think you going to sub and want feel yourself more entitled.

Valn · February 2015

AshySamurai wrote: »

Valn wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

It was already discussed. IMO very bad idea to make someone more special.

Why is it bad?

Because you're making people who pay more special. Because it's ZOS policy to have access to all in game (even with DLC - you buy it and you have all access to all content and places there). I think you going to sub and want feel yourself more entitled.

So you're saying subscribers shouldn't get any benefits? Are you playing the "special snowflake" card? I didn't realize F2P were allowed to post on the forums already

Slurg · February 2015

AshySamurai wrote: »

It was already discussed. IMO very bad idea to make someone more special.

Hey you know what - you're right, this has been discussed to death, but the more of this stuff I see, I start to think maybe this is a good idea. Players who think they're special and better than everyone else can have their very own special place to go stroke each others' e-peens and be special together and those of us who think they're full of nonsense can just not go to those places and continue to enjoy the game without them.

Sallington · February 2015

And if they just stuck with subscriptions like most of us wanted, this wouldn't even be an issue.

F2P ruins everything.

AshySamurai · February 2015

Valn wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

Valn wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

It was already discussed. IMO very bad idea to make someone more special.

Why is it bad?

Because you're making people who pay more special. Because it's ZOS policy to have access to all in game (even with DLC - you buy it and you have all access to all content and places there). I think you going to sub and want feel yourself more entitled.

So you're saying subscribers shouldn't get any benefits? Are you playing the "special snowflake" card? I didn't realize F2P were allowed to post on the forums already

Nope. I still subbed. And will be subbed till May (yeah, my bad, 180 days sub). Also, subers will get benefits: more gold/exp, faster traits research, access to all dlc, 1500 crowns/month. It's not enough for you?

darthbelanb14_ESO · February 2015

Because it will further divide the community, which is already divided by Xbox, PS4, and PC/Mac. What's next, subscriber only PvP, or PvE shards? Where does it end?

technohic · February 2015

At leat it would give us a place to point and laugh at someone

Soulshine · February 2015

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

It was already discussed. IMO very bad idea to make someone more special.

People that pay the sub fee and support the company should get better treatment then people who don't. If a player is a sub that typically means they are more serious about the game. People who play free should not have the same priority as people who do.

You are not entitled to "better treatment" just because you chose to sub.

You seem to think a pat on the back for this decision is an absolute. Well, @ZoS is giving you a pat on the back: access to all DLCs, crown allotments, and XP boosts. You still want more, to the tune of asking developers to invest limited time and resources on a game already thin with content (and one which they stated will have a slower content delivery pace than even last year) to create special content areas just for subscribers.

No.

Valn · February 2015

AshySamurai wrote: »

Valn wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

Valn wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

It was already discussed. IMO very bad idea to make someone more special.

Why is it bad?

Because you're making people who pay more special. Because it's ZOS policy to have access to all in game (even with DLC - you buy it and you have all access to all content and places there). I think you going to sub and want feel yourself more entitled.

So you're saying subscribers shouldn't get any benefits? Are you playing the "special snowflake" card? I didn't realize F2P were allowed to post on the forums already

Nope. I still subbed. And will be subbed till May (yeah, my bad, 180 days sub). Also, subers will get benefits: more gold/exp, faster traits research, access to all dlc, 1500 crowns/month. It's not enough for you?

Well that may be enough for YOU but for others it won't be.

Valn · February 2015

Soulshine wrote: »

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

It was already discussed. IMO very bad idea to make someone more special.

People that pay the sub fee and support the company should get better treatment then people who don't. If a player is a sub that typically means they are more serious about the game. People who play free should not have the same priority as people who do.

You are not entitled to "better treatment" just because you chose to sub.

You seem to think a pat on the back for this decision is an absolute. Well, @ZoS is giving you a pat on the back: access to all DLCs, crown allotments, and XP boosts. You still want more, to the tune of asking developers to invest limited time and resources on a game already thin with content (and one which they stated will have a slower content delivery pace than even last year) to create special content areas just for subscribers.

No.

NewBlacksmurf · February 2015

Valn wrote: »

I'd love there to be a tavern or some sort of training courtyard where only subscribers can enter..sort of like a VIP area that has banks, crafting stations, vendors etc.. it would just be a place that's more convenient to go to for subs.

There could be one in each faction area, it would be a great place to find players to adventure with, to find new guild members and such.

The purpose of playing an MMORPG is to put as many people into a world as possible. While some games have unique servers this does not.

Why would ZOS want seclude a subscriber from a customer who is a DLC buyer?

OR even seclude a DLC buyer from a subscription buyer from a non-subscription of DLC buyer?

This sounds like a very bad business model if it were to happen.

Why do you view these as a different type of person?
What prejudices have you applied to each category and why?

Roechacca · February 2015

SWTOR has a area like this . VIP Lounge . There never anyone there . I wish they would just open it up for everyone really . I don't feel special going up there , I feel snobby .

AshySamurai · February 2015

Slurg wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

It was already discussed. IMO very bad idea to make someone more special.

Hey you know what - you're right, this has been discussed to death, but the more of this stuff I see, I start to think maybe this is a good idea. Players who think they're special and better than everyone else can have their very own special place to go stroke each others' e-peens and be special together and those of us who think they're full of nonsense can just not go to those places and continue to enjoy the game without them.

Well, yeah. Why not? Maybe it's not so bad as I thought. You made me look at this question differently.

technohic · February 2015

Here's the thing. This will NOT be a free to play game. Everyone playing will have paid for the content they receive. Whether it's a sub or buying it outright.

Gidorick · February 2015

Love the idea! But there would be a LOT of people upset that there would be something that isn't handed to them for free.

Rezzy64 · February 2015

It's an issue because it would provide an excuse for regular subscribers to separate themselves from non-paying players. It would more or less become a Country Club within the game.
Although it makes sense in the way that regular paying customers should be rewarded for their loyalty in subscription and regular payments, but it would be a perfect example of non-paying customers being directly cut off from content that gives a direct advantage to players, that would be more useful then what is already presented within the game to all types of players. This isn't a "P2W" kind of advantage since we still have places like "Rawl Kha", but it is an outlet for unjustified behavior.
Snottiness and Segregation would easily follow even though it would be the easiest club to get into, plus the people who would think highly of themselves for being in a club of this sort, probably aren't all that fun to be around anyways.

Gidorick · February 2015

Soulshine wrote: »

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

It was already discussed. IMO very bad idea to make someone more special.

People that pay the sub fee and support the company should get better treatment then people who don't. If a player is a sub that typically means they are more serious about the game. People who play free should not have the same priority as people who do.

You are not entitled to "better treatment" just because you chose to sub.

You seem to think a pat on the back for this decision is an absolute. Well, @ZoS is giving you a pat on the back: access to all DLCs, crown allotments, and XP boosts. You still want more, to the tune of asking developers to invest limited time and resources on a game already thin with content (and one which they stated will have a slower content delivery pace than even last year) to create special content areas just for subscribers.

No.

Hey @Soulshine‌ ! Different topic, same entitlement issue, eh? Lol.

Kaizxen · February 2015

SWTOR did this with its VIP lounge in the hub cities, and it was the most barren place in the game.

I don't see any logical reason why separating people based on money spent is a good idea.

Valn · February 2015

Kaizxen wrote: »

SWTOR did this with its VIP lounge in the hub cities, and it was the most barren place in the game.

I don't see any logical reason why separating people based on money spent is a good idea.

barren? there's quite a few people who use the VIP area...less lag...a much quieter place on the fleet to use the GTN...

Soulshine · February 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

Soulshine wrote: »

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

It was already discussed. IMO very bad idea to make someone more special.

People that pay the sub fee and support the company should get better treatment then people who don't. If a player is a sub that typically means they are more serious about the game. People who play free should not have the same priority as people who do.

You are not entitled to "better treatment" just because you chose to sub.

You seem to think a pat on the back for this decision is an absolute. Well, @ZoS is giving you a pat on the back: access to all DLCs, crown allotments, and XP boosts. You still want more, to the tune of asking developers to invest limited time and resources on a game already thin with content (and one which they stated will have a slower content delivery pace than even last year) to create special content areas just for subscribers.

No.

Hey @Soulshine‌ ! Different topic, same issue, eh? Lol.

Indeed. And as you can see, divisivness based on money is the culprit.

Gidorick · February 2015

I'm beginning to think ESO should have just cancel the sub option all together. There's really not enough reason for a player to remain subbed and ZOS doesn't seem like they're going to "value" the subscriptions. The subscriptions to TU are there for the sake of the subscribers, not for the sake of ZOS.

Valn · February 2015

Soulshine wrote: »

Indeed. And as you can see, divisivness based on money is the culprit.

So you want there to be no difference between a f2p and a subscriber? You just want subscribers to "donate monthly because they love to support ZOS" ??

Roechacca · February 2015

This is just my opinion and it doesn't reflect that anyone wanting something special just for them is bad in my eyes or anything . It's not . Just a thought though ... With the games population fading at a very accelerated rate , do you really want to segregate new players ? ZOS seems to do a good enough job making people frustrated as it is without further assistance . Just a thought .

Faugaun · February 2015

Lol, next is subscriber only personal housing system requests which have one station which functions as all crafting stations and banks. It can be called T.E.S. (The Everything Station).