If ZOS were going to give us titles, who should get them?

  • Soulshine
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    I don't think we should get special titles (care to explain why?)
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Soulshine wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    This poll, that suggestion, and titles for that matter, do nothing but promote elitism.

    And those that feel "they don't need titles" don't have feelings of elitism for being "above" all that?

    Titles exist in the game and ZOS should throw titles out there like they're candy. Because that's what they are... little nuggets that give the player a little bit of an ego boost that have no actual value in any way. They hurt no one, and they don't impact game play at all.

    They DO, however, add to perceived vale. A player that has becomed disillusioned with ESO going b2p might be sated just enough by a special title to stay with ESO, so I think they makes it worth the effort it would take to add a title for them.

    Seems you are missing the forrest for the trees here. THIS particular kind of title would most definitely fall into the category of deliberately creating even more divisiveness than there already is amongst players over this issue and does not add anything of value to the game.


    And as far as you throwing out the "elitist" label yet again..... asking for there to be a title to distinguish yourself from non-subbed players merely because you have subbed and they did not is about as "elitist" as you can get.

    There will ALWAYS be people that look down on others... and giving or not giving a title isn't going to make people automatically feel elitist or not. Those people are that way, regardless of something as insignificance as a title.

    Titles should be fun and lighthearted and don't always have to be serious badges of conquest. We have the dyes for achievement awards, throw out titles for everything!

    I think there should be titles for each VR rank achieved. For farming an insane amount of ore. For killing a whole much of chickens. For pickpocketing a bunch of people. For going X distance while walking/jogging/running on foot AND on horse. For punching a bunch of Guar. For junking X gold worth if items. For opening X number of treasure chests. For swimming X distance whIle wearing nothing.

    And yes. For playing the Beta. For playing prior to B2P. Also for NOT playing until B2P.

    I think it's not so much that I'm missing the forest, it's that I think the forest could be a lot more "fun". :wink:

    But, worry not. These title additions will never be added. So the community shall be saved from elitist jerks taking pride in silly things like "being there when...".

    You contradicting yourself all over the place and clearly stuck on throwing around the "elitist" label.

    Titles for "everything" make them rather pointless.

    There was already a reward for beta: the monkey pet.
  • Slurg
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    I don't think we should get special titles (care to explain why?)
    I think the idea would be better received if it was a request for additional titles tied to in-game achievements rather than titles awarded for spending money for X amount of time.
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  • Gidorick
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    Soulshine wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Soulshine wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    This poll, that suggestion, and titles for that matter, do nothing but promote elitism.

    And those that feel "they don't need titles" don't have feelings of elitism for being "above" all that?

    Titles exist in the game and ZOS should throw titles out there like they're candy. Because that's what they are... little nuggets that give the player a little bit of an ego boost that have no actual value in any way. They hurt no one, and they don't impact game play at all.

    They DO, however, add to perceived vale. A player that has becomed disillusioned with ESO going b2p might be sated just enough by a special title to stay with ESO, so I think they makes it worth the effort it would take to add a title for them.

    Seems you are missing the forrest for the trees here. THIS particular kind of title would most definitely fall into the category of deliberately creating even more divisiveness than there already is amongst players over this issue and does not add anything of value to the game.


    And as far as you throwing out the "elitist" label yet again..... asking for there to be a title to distinguish yourself from non-subbed players merely because you have subbed and they did not is about as "elitist" as you can get.

    There will ALWAYS be people that look down on others... and giving or not giving a title isn't going to make people automatically feel elitist or not. Those people are that way, regardless of something as insignificance as a title.

    Titles should be fun and lighthearted and don't always have to be serious badges of conquest. We have the dyes for achievement awards, throw out titles for everything!

    I think there should be titles for each VR rank achieved. For farming an insane amount of ore. For killing a whole much of chickens. For pickpocketing a bunch of people. For going X distance while walking/jogging/running on foot AND on horse. For punching a bunch of Guar. For junking X gold worth if items. For opening X number of treasure chests. For swimming X distance whIle wearing nothing.

    And yes. For playing the Beta. For playing prior to B2P. Also for NOT playing until B2P.

    I think it's not so much that I'm missing the forest, it's that I think the forest could be a lot more "fun". :wink:

    But, worry not. These title additions will never be added. So the community shall be saved from elitist jerks taking pride in silly things like "being there when...".

    You contradicting yourself all over the place and clearly stuck on throwing around the "elitist" label.

    Titles for "everything" make them rather pointless
    .

    There was already a reward for beta: the monkey pet.

    Exactly. They SHOULD be pointless. They should be fun. I think I've been rather clear on that. They don't impact the game at all So there's no harm in having stupid little titles for all sorts of things. Where am I contradicting myself here?

    The "elitist rewards" for being in beta, being in pre-b2p, and being a subscriber for the duration of B2P in the form of pets and an upcoming mount. I don't know if there are groups of players who are discriminating against players who don't have the Dwarven Sphere or the Beta Monkey so I don't know why the community would suddenly segregate based on titles.

    To me it just seems like you don't want people to have fun in a way that you deem to be inappropriate.
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  • Valn
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    you-are-not-a-beautiful-and-unique-snowflake.jpg

    I totally agree.

    Everyone should be exactly the same and nobody should stand out. I really like your idea, they should rename the game The Elder Scrolls Online: Copy and Paste Edition. Because they need to make EVERY player the same. No one gets to be unique.
  • Gidorick
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    Only players that have been here since Beta
    Slurg wrote: »
    I think the idea would be better received if it was a request for additional titles tied to in-game achievements rather than titles awarded for spending money for X amount of time.

    Well, this poll is specifically about if we should get titles for being subscribers prior to B2P... seems like a polarizing issue!

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  • Iago
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    Valn wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    you-are-not-a-beautiful-and-unique-snowflake.jpg

    I totally agree.

    Everyone should be exactly the same and nobody should stand out. I really like your idea, they should rename the game The Elder Scrolls Online: Copy and Paste Edition. Because they need to make EVERY player the same. No one gets to be unique.

    The problem that being unique is that as soon as you stand out in TESO someone will cry nerf and then you will be smacked back into line.
    That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.

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  • Soulshine
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    I don't think we should get special titles (care to explain why?)
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Soulshine wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Soulshine wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    This poll, that suggestion, and titles for that matter, do nothing but promote elitism.

    And those that feel "they don't need titles" don't have feelings of elitism for being "above" all that?

    Titles exist in the game and ZOS should throw titles out there like they're candy. Because that's what they are... little nuggets that give the player a little bit of an ego boost that have no actual value in any way. They hurt no one, and they don't impact game play at all.

    They DO, however, add to perceived vale. A player that has becomed disillusioned with ESO going b2p might be sated just enough by a special title to stay with ESO, so I think they makes it worth the effort it would take to add a title for them.

    Seems you are missing the forrest for the trees here. THIS particular kind of title would most definitely fall into the category of deliberately creating even more divisiveness than there already is amongst players over this issue and does not add anything of value to the game.


    And as far as you throwing out the "elitist" label yet again..... asking for there to be a title to distinguish yourself from non-subbed players merely because you have subbed and they did not is about as "elitist" as you can get.

    There will ALWAYS be people that look down on others... and giving or not giving a title isn't going to make people automatically feel elitist or not. Those people are that way, regardless of something as insignificance as a title.

    Titles should be fun and lighthearted and don't always have to be serious badges of conquest. We have the dyes for achievement awards, throw out titles for everything!

    I think there should be titles for each VR rank achieved. For farming an insane amount of ore. For killing a whole much of chickens. For pickpocketing a bunch of people. For going X distance while walking/jogging/running on foot AND on horse. For punching a bunch of Guar. For junking X gold worth if items. For opening X number of treasure chests. For swimming X distance whIle wearing nothing.

    And yes. For playing the Beta. For playing prior to B2P. Also for NOT playing until B2P.

    I think it's not so much that I'm missing the forest, it's that I think the forest could be a lot more "fun". :wink:

    But, worry not. These title additions will never be added. So the community shall be saved from elitist jerks taking pride in silly things like "being there when...".

    You contradicting yourself all over the place and clearly stuck on throwing around the "elitist" label.

    Titles for "everything" make them rather pointless
    .

    There was already a reward for beta: the monkey pet.

    Exactly. They SHOULD be pointless. They should be fun. I think I've been rather clear on that. They don't impact the game at all So there's no harm in having stupid little titles for all sorts of things. Where am I contradicting myself here?

    The "elitist rewards" for being in beta, being in pre-b2p, and being a subscriber for the duration of B2P in the form of pets and an upcoming mount. I don't know if there are groups of players who are discriminating against players who don't have the Dwarven Sphere or the Beta Monkey so I don't know why the community would suddenly segregate based on titles.

    To me it just seems like you don't want people to have fun in a way that you deem to be inappropriate.

    Again with the elitism label. Boring. Accusing me of not wanting people to have fun is total nonesense as it has nothing to do with the point, which is that there is a very big difference between giving out titles based on in game activities and quite another to hand out titles based on who subbed to the game and who didn't. If you don't get why that is a completly different animal, there is little to discuss.
    Edited by Soulshine on February 11, 2015 5:40PM
  • Valn
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    Iago wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    you-are-not-a-beautiful-and-unique-snowflake.jpg

    I totally agree.

    Everyone should be exactly the same and nobody should stand out. I really like your idea, they should rename the game The Elder Scrolls Online: Copy and Paste Edition. Because they need to make EVERY player the same. No one gets to be unique.

    The problem that being unique is that as soon as you stand out in TESO someone will cry nerf and then you will be smacked back into line.

    afaik this is an mmo and not a single player game. i think people need to understand that mmos are ever-changing and evolving things, so people will miss out on stuff.
  • Gidorick
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    Soulshine wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Soulshine wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Soulshine wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    This poll, that suggestion, and titles for that matter, do nothing but promote elitism.

    And those that feel "they don't need titles" don't have feelings of elitism for being "above" all that?

    Titles exist in the game and ZOS should throw titles out there like they're candy. Because that's what they are... little nuggets that give the player a little bit of an ego boost that have no actual value in any way. They hurt no one, and they don't impact game play at all.

    They DO, however, add to perceived vale. A player that has becomed disillusioned with ESO going b2p might be sated just enough by a special title to stay with ESO, so I think they makes it worth the effort it would take to add a title for them.

    Seems you are missing the forrest for the trees here. THIS particular kind of title would most definitely fall into the category of deliberately creating even more divisiveness than there already is amongst players over this issue and does not add anything of value to the game.


    And as far as you throwing out the "elitist" label yet again..... asking for there to be a title to distinguish yourself from non-subbed players merely because you have subbed and they did not is about as "elitist" as you can get.

    There will ALWAYS be people that look down on others... and giving or not giving a title isn't going to make people automatically feel elitist or not. Those people are that way, regardless of something as insignificance as a title.

    Titles should be fun and lighthearted and don't always have to be serious badges of conquest. We have the dyes for achievement awards, throw out titles for everything!

    I think there should be titles for each VR rank achieved. For farming an insane amount of ore. For killing a whole much of chickens. For pickpocketing a bunch of people. For going X distance while walking/jogging/running on foot AND on horse. For punching a bunch of Guar. For junking X gold worth if items. For opening X number of treasure chests. For swimming X distance whIle wearing nothing.

    And yes. For playing the Beta. For playing prior to B2P. Also for NOT playing until B2P.

    I think it's not so much that I'm missing the forest, it's that I think the forest could be a lot more "fun". :wink:

    But, worry not. These title additions will never be added. So the community shall be saved from elitist jerks taking pride in silly things like "being there when...".

    You contradicting yourself all over the place and clearly stuck on throwing around the "elitist" label.

    Titles for "everything" make them rather pointless
    .

    There was already a reward for beta: the monkey pet.

    Exactly. They SHOULD be pointless. They should be fun. I think I've been rather clear on that. They don't impact the game at all So there's no harm in having stupid little titles for all sorts of things. Where am I contradicting myself here?

    The "elitist rewards" for being in beta, being in pre-b2p, and being a subscriber for the duration of B2P in the form of pets and an upcoming mount. I don't know if there are groups of players who are discriminating against players who don't have the Dwarven Sphere or the Beta Monkey so I don't know why the community would suddenly segregate based on titles.

    To me it just seems like you don't want people to have fun in a way that you deem to be inappropriate.

    Again with the elitism label. Boring. Accusing me of not wanting people to have fun is total nonesense as it has nothing to do with the point, which is that there is a very big difference between giving out titles based on in game activities and quite another to hand out titles based on who subbed to the game and who didn't. If you don't get why that is a completly different animal, there is little to discuss.

    Dude. I'm not the one that brought the "elitist" label into this conversation. I was replying to a comment... Actually it was:
    This poll, that suggestion, and titles for that matter, do nothing but promote elitism.

    What I don't get is how having a title based on subscription timing messes with your game experience. Is it that you don't want to see titles devalued? That you think titles should ONLY be for in game achievement so that if you see someone with a title you know that person actually accomplished something in game?

    I GET that earning a title VS being given one for an arbitrary reason is different but it's not like the title would be the same title.

    I mean, a player running around with "The Entitled One" (that cracks me up heh) shouldn't devalue the "Monster Hunter" title, but if you feel it does then yea, we have a disagreement of what the core function of titles should/could be.
    Edited by Gidorick on February 11, 2015 6:00PM
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    I don't think we should get special titles (care to explain why?)
    Gidorick wrote: »
    P3ZZL3 wrote: »
    Surely if you wanted more titles, just allow you to pick your title via the Achievements you have unlocked. Lot's of variety and choice, but sticking within the game metrics :)

    Achievements are a good way to have titles but we should have more than that.

    like....Chicken Chaser?
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  • Gidorick
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    P3ZZL3 wrote: »
    Surely if you wanted more titles, just allow you to pick your title via the Achievements you have unlocked. Lot's of variety and choice, but sticking within the game metrics :)

    Achievements are a good way to have titles but we should have more than that.

    like....Chicken Chaser?

    Lol. Precisely!
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  • Soulshine
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    I don't think we should get special titles (care to explain why?)
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Soulshine wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Soulshine wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Soulshine wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    This poll, that suggestion, and titles for that matter, do nothing but promote elitism.

    And those that feel "they don't need titles" don't have feelings of elitism for being "above" all that?

    Titles exist in the game and ZOS should throw titles out there like they're candy. Because that's what they are... little nuggets that give the player a little bit of an ego boost that have no actual value in any way. They hurt no one, and they don't impact game play at all.

    They DO, however, add to perceived vale. A player that has becomed disillusioned with ESO going b2p might be sated just enough by a special title to stay with ESO, so I think they makes it worth the effort it would take to add a title for them.

    Seems you are missing the forrest for the trees here. THIS particular kind of title would most definitely fall into the category of deliberately creating even more divisiveness than there already is amongst players over this issue and does not add anything of value to the game.


    And as far as you throwing out the "elitist" label yet again..... asking for there to be a title to distinguish yourself from non-subbed players merely because you have subbed and they did not is about as "elitist" as you can get.

    There will ALWAYS be people that look down on others... and giving or not giving a title isn't going to make people automatically feel elitist or not. Those people are that way, regardless of something as insignificance as a title.

    Titles should be fun and lighthearted and don't always have to be serious badges of conquest. We have the dyes for achievement awards, throw out titles for everything!

    I think there should be titles for each VR rank achieved. For farming an insane amount of ore. For killing a whole much of chickens. For pickpocketing a bunch of people. For going X distance while walking/jogging/running on foot AND on horse. For punching a bunch of Guar. For junking X gold worth if items. For opening X number of treasure chests. For swimming X distance whIle wearing nothing.

    And yes. For playing the Beta. For playing prior to B2P. Also for NOT playing until B2P.

    I think it's not so much that I'm missing the forest, it's that I think the forest could be a lot more "fun". :wink:

    But, worry not. These title additions will never be added. So the community shall be saved from elitist jerks taking pride in silly things like "being there when...".

    You contradicting yourself all over the place and clearly stuck on throwing around the "elitist" label.

    Titles for "everything" make them rather pointless
    .

    There was already a reward for beta: the monkey pet.

    Exactly. They SHOULD be pointless. They should be fun. I think I've been rather clear on that. They don't impact the game at all So there's no harm in having stupid little titles for all sorts of things. Where am I contradicting myself here?

    The "elitist rewards" for being in beta, being in pre-b2p, and being a subscriber for the duration of B2P in the form of pets and an upcoming mount. I don't know if there are groups of players who are discriminating against players who don't have the Dwarven Sphere or the Beta Monkey so I don't know why the community would suddenly segregate based on titles.

    To me it just seems like you don't want people to have fun in a way that you deem to be inappropriate.

    Again with the elitism label. Boring. Accusing me of not wanting people to have fun is total nonesense as it has nothing to do with the point, which is that there is a very big difference between giving out titles based on in game activities and quite another to hand out titles based on who subbed to the game and who didn't. If you don't get why that is a completly different animal, there is little to discuss.

    Dude. I'm not the one that brought the "elitist" label into this conversation. I was replying to a comment... Actually it was:
    This poll, that suggestion, and titles for that matter, do nothing but promote elitism.

    What I don't get is how having a title based on subscription timing messes with your game experience. Is it that you don't want to see titles devalued? That you think titles should ONLY be for in game achievement so that if you see someone with a title you know that person actually accomplished something in game?

    I GET that earning a title VS being given one for an arbitrary reason is different but it's not like the title would be the same title.

    I mean, a player running around with "The Entitled One" (that cracks me up heh) shouldn't devalue the "Monster Hunter" title, but if you feel it does then yea, we have a disagreement of what the core function of titles should/could be.

    Going in circles. Again, asking for a title to be based on when and for how long you subbed to the game is not asking for something "fun" it is asking to label the community based on their financial contribution to the game and there is already WAY too much enphasis on this point given how massively negative some people's reactions have been to the topic of money, pets, rewards, and anything whatever to do with financial decisions like subbing to the game. That you don't see how this would significantly impact players feelings is obvious. Moving on.
    Edited by Soulshine on February 11, 2015 6:22PM
  • Kaizxen
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    Titles should be for achievements only. They should never be linked to the player spending money.

    Let's do titles for subbing for a certain # of months?

    Sure, and then the next round of titles can be for buying a certain # of crowns in the cash shop.

    They're both the same idea, and they're both equally ridiculous.
  • Gidorick
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    Valn wrote: »
    Iago wrote: »
    Valn wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    you-are-not-a-beautiful-and-unique-snowflake.jpg

    I totally agree.

    Everyone should be exactly the same and nobody should stand out. I really like your idea, they should rename the game The Elder Scrolls Online: Copy and Paste Edition. Because they need to make EVERY player the same. No one gets to be unique.

    The problem that being unique is that as soon as you stand out in TESO someone will cry nerf and then you will be smacked back into line.

    afaik this is an mmo and not a single player game. i think people need to understand that mmos are ever-changing and evolving things, so people will miss out on stuff.

    This is actually the reason I jumped on ESO as soon as I could. I wanted to play an MMO but joining one like Wow is kind of intimidating... like I missed the train.

    When I heard ESO was coming out (specifically that first person was being added) I decided I wanted to be there on day one. I wanted to be able to be there as it grows to become the definitive Elder Scrolls experience.

    While I hold little hope that ESO will EVER be that, I'm still happy that I got in at the beginning and having some silly title to let me celebrate that wouldn't hurt anyone or give me any actual advantage.
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  • Gidorick
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    Soulshine wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Soulshine wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Soulshine wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Soulshine wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    This poll, that suggestion, and titles for that matter, do nothing but promote elitism.

    And those that feel "they don't need titles" don't have feelings of elitism for being "above" all that?

    Titles exist in the game and ZOS should throw titles out there like they're candy. Because that's what they are... little nuggets that give the player a little bit of an ego boost that have no actual value in any way. They hurt no one, and they don't impact game play at all.

    They DO, however, add to perceived vale. A player that has becomed disillusioned with ESO going b2p might be sated just enough by a special title to stay with ESO, so I think they makes it worth the effort it would take to add a title for them.

    Seems you are missing the forrest for the trees here. THIS particular kind of title would most definitely fall into the category of deliberately creating even more divisiveness than there already is amongst players over this issue and does not add anything of value to the game.


    And as far as you throwing out the "elitist" label yet again..... asking for there to be a title to distinguish yourself from non-subbed players merely because you have subbed and they did not is about as "elitist" as you can get.

    There will ALWAYS be people that look down on others... and giving or not giving a title isn't going to make people automatically feel elitist or not. Those people are that way, regardless of something as insignificance as a title.

    Titles should be fun and lighthearted and don't always have to be serious badges of conquest. We have the dyes for achievement awards, throw out titles for everything!

    I think there should be titles for each VR rank achieved. For farming an insane amount of ore. For killing a whole much of chickens. For pickpocketing a bunch of people. For going X distance while walking/jogging/running on foot AND on horse. For punching a bunch of Guar. For junking X gold worth if items. For opening X number of treasure chests. For swimming X distance whIle wearing nothing.

    And yes. For playing the Beta. For playing prior to B2P. Also for NOT playing until B2P.

    I think it's not so much that I'm missing the forest, it's that I think the forest could be a lot more "fun". :wink:

    But, worry not. These title additions will never be added. So the community shall be saved from elitist jerks taking pride in silly things like "being there when...".

    You contradicting yourself all over the place and clearly stuck on throwing around the "elitist" label.

    Titles for "everything" make them rather pointless
    .

    There was already a reward for beta: the monkey pet.

    Exactly. They SHOULD be pointless. They should be fun. I think I've been rather clear on that. They don't impact the game at all So there's no harm in having stupid little titles for all sorts of things. Where am I contradicting myself here?

    The "elitist rewards" for being in beta, being in pre-b2p, and being a subscriber for the duration of B2P in the form of pets and an upcoming mount. I don't know if there are groups of players who are discriminating against players who don't have the Dwarven Sphere or the Beta Monkey so I don't know why the community would suddenly segregate based on titles.

    To me it just seems like you don't want people to have fun in a way that you deem to be inappropriate.

    Again with the elitism label. Boring. Accusing me of not wanting people to have fun is total nonesense as it has nothing to do with the point, which is that there is a very big difference between giving out titles based on in game activities and quite another to hand out titles based on who subbed to the game and who didn't. If you don't get why that is a completly different animal, there is little to discuss.

    Dude. I'm not the one that brought the "elitist" label into this conversation. I was replying to a comment... Actually it was:
    This poll, that suggestion, and titles for that matter, do nothing but promote elitism.

    What I don't get is how having a title based on subscription timing messes with your game experience. Is it that you don't want to see titles devalued? That you think titles should ONLY be for in game achievement so that if you see someone with a title you know that person actually accomplished something in game?

    I GET that earning a title VS being given one for an arbitrary reason is different but it's not like the title would be the same title.

    I mean, a player running around with "The Entitled One" (that cracks me up heh) shouldn't devalue the "Monster Hunter" title, but if you feel it does then yea, we have a disagreement of what the core function of titles should/could be.

    Going in circles. Again, asking for a title to be based on when and for how long you subbed to the game is not asking for something "fun" it is asking to label the community based on their financial contribution to the game and there is already WAY too much enphasis on this point given how massively negative some people's reactions have been to the topic of money, pets, rewards, and anything whatever to do with financial decisions like subbing to the game. That you don't see how this would significantly impact players feelings is obvious. Moving on.

    I think the real issue is that players would have "impacted feelings" because another player has a title they cannot get.
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  • Gidorick
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    Kaizxen wrote: »
    Titles should be for achievements only. They should never be linked to the player spending money.

    Let's do titles for subbing for a certain # of months?

    Sure, and then the next round of titles can be for buying a certain # of crowns in the cash shop.

    They're both the same idea, and they're both equally ridiculous.

    Fair enough... Although I don't see an issue with giving titles for crown store expendature. But I do get that many WOULD have an issue with that.
    Edited by Gidorick on February 11, 2015 6:35PM
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  • Demeos
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    I don't think we should get special titles (care to explain why?)
    In my opinion, Titles should be a big deal. Something that not only the game recognizes, but also something that the player community recognizes as being an actual achievement, not something you bought with a continuous subscription.
  • Kartalin
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    I don't think we should get special titles (care to explain why?)
    In the classes that I teach, even though the students have paid to take the course they still don't get credit just for showing up to class. Handing out titles to people who have given money to ZOS at one point or another is similarly ridiculous. Besides, who would use such a cheap title so easily obtained? Why not show off much cooler and harder to attain titles like Boethiah's Scythe, Deadland's Adept, or one you're just really proud of and think sounds cool? Or your Alliance Rank for PVPers? Between PVE and PVP I have more than a dozen titles, and none of them was just handed to me...except perhaps Volunteer, the level 1 PVP rank you get for sneezing in Cyrodiil.

    Titles need to be earned like any other achievement.
  • IrishGirlGamer
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    I don't think we should get special titles (care to explain why?)
    For my father, who taught me all the best things I know:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7txPU6efos
    Edited by IrishGirlGamer on February 12, 2015 12:28AM
    Valar Morghulis.

    Someday I'm going to put a sword through your eye and out the back of your skull. Arya Stark

    You're going to die tomorrow, Lord Bolton. Sleep well. Sansa Stark

    If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. Desmond Tutu
  • Gidorick
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    I had no idea so many people cared so much about a smattering of letters under their name. :|
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  • The_Antiquarian
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    Unique unobtainable exclusive costumes and titles please for the loyal customers who have been with ESO ever since its beginning.
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    you-are-not-a-beautiful-and-unique-snowflake.jpg

    Yes I am!
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  • Gidorick
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    Unique unobtainable exclusive costumes and titles please for the loyal customers who have been with ESO ever since its beginning.

    Apparently this would be "unfair".
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
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  • Islyn
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    Those who were with ESO since the beginning should be rewarded with something more than titles. Unique costumes that are exclusive to those who sypported ESO since its rocky start. This also sends a good precedents by encouraging others to continue to be faithful to whatever ventures they take.

    I think the outfit you wear when you slay molag bal should be a costume you win - but Iirc from when I was emporer it is the same one...or just really similar.

    I do not love how all the reward costumes are trash we've slain dirty laundry x2 then stupid Mannidorko's lame dirty laundry.

    I want cool good guy clothes - not dead things' castoffs.
    Member of the Old Guard - Closed Betas 2013
  • DaniAngione
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    I not only agree, I'd also suggest a title I'd proudly carry with me (and fits the beta tester/at least 6 months subscriber status)

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  • BBSooner
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    I don't think we should get special titles (care to explain why?)
    A title essentially equating to "how much money I've spent on the game" isn't something I'm really interested in.
  • DaniAngione
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    BBSooner wrote: »
    A title essentially equating to "how much money I've spent on the game" isn't something I'm really interested in.

    It ain't about the money we've spent. It's about how long we've been there supporting the vision of ESO not as the game it is but as the game it might be one day.

  • IrishGirlGamer
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    I don't think we should get special titles (care to explain why?)
    Unique unobtainable exclusive costumes and titles please for the loyal customers who have been with ESO ever since its beginning.

    Ego stroking? Isn't what the silly pets were for?

    I admit a certain attraction to the pets. They scream oh so loud when I hit the delete button.
    Valar Morghulis.

    Someday I'm going to put a sword through your eye and out the back of your skull. Arya Stark

    You're going to die tomorrow, Lord Bolton. Sleep well. Sansa Stark

    If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. Desmond Tutu
  • Elizariya
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    StaticWax wrote: »
    And that title shall read: "Sucker"

    OR, "Paid to Beta Test for consoles"
  • BBSooner
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    I don't think we should get special titles (care to explain why?)
    BBSooner wrote: »
    A title essentially equating to "how much money I've spent on the game" isn't something I'm really interested in.

    It ain't about the money we've spent. It's about how long we've been there supporting the vision of ESO not as the game it is but as the game it might be one day.

    We've already got rewards for this:

    Beta participant - monkey pet

    Loyalty rewards for X months - Ice Wraith and Dwemer Sphere

    Visiting an ESO booth at a convention or watching ESO live - pig pet


    Some like 'em, some don't, but those are the rewards.
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