Fix Fiery Grip

Yuke · February 2015

Fiery Grip:

If the target of Fiery Grip is unable to be pulled to you for any reason, you will now be pulled to the target.

It doesnt work in 80% of the uses.

Plz fix.

And beyond that, there is some crazy *** going on, when Templars are using their reflec skill (Eclipse) while you using Fiery Grip to close the gap, resulting in some crazy warping around (of the DK) all over the map.

mauritius.krebsb16_ESO · February 2015

not only that, but pulling someone is extremely unresponsive and you don't really know what's going on until your opponent suddenly appears in front of you.

Yuke · February 2015

I agree. The chain flies to slow towards the enemy. Basically i have to cast some shield or reflect before closing the gap with fiery grip otherwise i'll die in the process of gap closing.

Dreyloch · February 2015

I think the skill needs to just go away altogether. It was a very cool concept on paper, but just impossible to use reliably. If you want a gap closer, go with bow or shield charging your target.

Adding to the rest of the thread, there's no Z axis on it because everyone cried and moaned about getting pulled off walls in PvP. So yeah, it's never on my bar, and never will be.

Oughash · February 2015

Can confirm that chains does not work. It hasn't really worked for months. The skill needs to be replaced with a gap closer that works. One morph which pulls enemies, one morph which takes you to enemies. Since DK DMG skills are primarily melee range, we need this to work. Especially considering 1.6 changes: it is no longer viable to use stamina on a gap closer if you are a magicka build.

Yuke · February 2015

Zenimax need to get this working. The only DK magicka (melee) build which is working with 1.6. relies on it...

WebBull · February 2015

Fix please/

Derra · February 2015

Yep. Its hilarious seeing flying dks on the map

Yuke · February 2015

push...

EnOeZ · September 2016

Bump !

I found your thread @Yuke afterwards but... of course I agree.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/291215/dks-fiery-grip-used-to-work-two-years-ago-and-pretty-well-why-cant-it-now

We want AAA combat care @Wrobel , not Free to play one.
Thanks.

HeroOfNone · September 2016

Nice thread necromancy

However chains does work, and fairly well, a good 80% of the time , as long as we're throwing out made up percentages. But there are several instances it doesn't. This leads to the following issuses:

- You can't pull mobs "up" long distances but you can pull them down, possibly to stop keep wall hopping
- Thresholds tend to be tricky, and don't let you pull enemies. Not the same thresholds will bug out gap closers too
- there see to be unseen doors, or pathing issues out in open fields, leading to more confusion why you can't pull.
- When you pull archers or casters they will immediately back up, despite and root you have waiting.
- Folks "blink" from one spot to another, making it hard to see where to hit them, but they normally have a moment of lag when pulled as well
- hains do not refund if the person dodges or blocks the chain

Hope that clears up some misconceptions about its "weak" state.

This ability is pretty OP when working right and by someone that knows when to use it. This is one of the reasons speed runners will use it in VDSA and other trials.

Armitas · September 2016

If you can't fix it, empowering a teleport. Give us something here it's been 2 years with this unusable cap closer. I'll ride the bus if need be, just get me to my target please.

Cinbri · September 2016

This happenning not only with dks, but more rarely. Used mistfrom while CCed - flew far away.