rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »Besides what I needed to do for the Thieves guild quests i've never been much into stealing in any of the other Elder Scrolls games. I didn't kill friendly or neutral NPC's outside of Dark Brotherhood quests either.
I know many people wanted the justice system but it's not something i've personally got any interest in.
The only reason i'm happy it's here is because i'm hoping it's a precursor to DB and Thieves.
As for the justice system itself, it doesn't interest me.
Even from an RP aspect, my Nightblade is a Ranger so wouldn't be killing NPC's or robbing things in towns.
rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I wish they would publish his 1.6 update already to the live servers. We have been waiting far too long already.
I can wait longer.
The longer they keep it on the PTS the better it will be.
And the longer they keep it on the PTS the more mats I can grab from towns before I have to stop taking them.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I wish they would publish his 1.6 update already to the live servers. We have been waiting far too long already.
There are still a lot of things to Iron out before it goes live.
There is always crap to iron out. Nothing will ever be perfect. They can push this live and work on it until Fall because we dont get any new content at all until well after the console launch. All this balancing etc for PVP will never be perfect anyways.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I wish they would publish his 1.6 update already to the live servers. We have been waiting far too long already.
There are still a lot of things to Iron out before it goes live.
There is always crap to iron out. Nothing will ever be perfect. They can push this live and work on it until Fall because we dont get any new content at all until well after the console launch. All this balancing etc for PVP will never be perfect anyways.
I'd rather they took their time and got it right, rather than have to put up with even more hate posts on the forums about how they rushed it and got it all wrong.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I wish they would publish his 1.6 update already to the live servers. We have been waiting far too long already.
There are still a lot of things to Iron out before it goes live.
There is always crap to iron out. Nothing will ever be perfect. They can push this live and work on it until Fall because we dont get any new content at all until well after the console launch. All this balancing etc for PVP will never be perfect anyways.
There is already mass hysteria. If they go live with a bunch of bugs and glitches, the mob will go into a frenzy and make things even worse. There will be bugs anyways of course, but give the PTS some time to do it's job. They have already found a bunch of problems and fixed then with 1.6.1
It's a major overhaul and it's only been on the PTS for a week. Give it some time.
Give it some time?! We havent had any new content since friggin last summer and this guy says give it time. They have been working on 1.6 for months. How much more friggin time do they need?
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Also those mats you are collecting are going to be worthless anyways unless you want to sell em to a vendor for 10g each.
Alphashado wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I wish they would publish his 1.6 update already to the live servers. We have been waiting far too long already.
There are still a lot of things to Iron out before it goes live.
There is always crap to iron out. Nothing will ever be perfect. They can push this live and work on it until Fall because we dont get any new content at all until well after the console launch. All this balancing etc for PVP will never be perfect anyways.
There is already mass hysteria. If they go live with a bunch of bugs and glitches, the mob will go into a frenzy and make things even worse. There will be bugs anyways of course, but give the PTS some time to do it's job. They have already found a bunch of problems and fixed then with 1.6.1
It's a major overhaul and it's only been on the PTS for a week. Give it some time.
Give it some time?! We havent had any new content since friggin last summer and this guy says give it time. They have been working on 1.6 for months. How much more friggin time do they need?
They have been working on it for months, but it's only been tested by the community for a week. That's why MMOs have a PTS - Public Test Server.
If you want to contribute and speed things up, then feel free to download it and contribute to the test.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I wish they would publish his 1.6 update already to the live servers. We have been waiting far too long already.
There are still a lot of things to Iron out before it goes live.
There is always crap to iron out. Nothing will ever be perfect. They can push this live and work on it until Fall because we dont get any new content at all until well after the console launch. All this balancing etc for PVP will never be perfect anyways.
I'd rather they took their time and got it right, rather than have to put up with even more hate posts on the forums about how they rushed it and got it all wrong.
They have already had months. How much longer do you think? A year? 6 months?
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I wish they would publish his 1.6 update already to the live servers. We have been waiting far too long already.
There are still a lot of things to Iron out before it goes live.
There is always crap to iron out. Nothing will ever be perfect. They can push this live and work on it until Fall because we dont get any new content at all until well after the console launch. All this balancing etc for PVP will never be perfect anyways.
I'd rather they took their time and got it right, rather than have to put up with even more hate posts on the forums about how they rushed it and got it all wrong.
They have already had months. How much longer do you think? A year? 6 months?
We're talking about transferring 1.6 from PTS to Live. They've had a couple of weeks for testing by NA players, a few days for testing by EU players.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I wish they would publish his 1.6 update already to the live servers. We have been waiting far too long already.
There are still a lot of things to Iron out before it goes live.
There is always crap to iron out. Nothing will ever be perfect. They can push this live and work on it until Fall because we dont get any new content at all until well after the console launch. All this balancing etc for PVP will never be perfect anyways.
I'd rather they took their time and got it right, rather than have to put up with even more hate posts on the forums about how they rushed it and got it all wrong.
They have already had months. How much longer do you think? A year? 6 months?
We're talking about transferring 1.6 from PTS to Live. They've had a couple of weeks for testing by NA players, a few days for testing by EU players.
I think this preview is hardly a "test". This can easily be done on live. Its just players playing the game. I bet if you check less than 0.1% ever bother putting in a bug report. Meanwhile all the people on live are stuck because they arent tracking our progress. Id prefer to actually be able to play the game rather than waiting and waiting. They announced the Justice system and showed previews of it in July of last year. How much longer is this going to take?
Alphashado wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I wish they would publish his 1.6 update already to the live servers. We have been waiting far too long already.
There are still a lot of things to Iron out before it goes live.
There is always crap to iron out. Nothing will ever be perfect. They can push this live and work on it until Fall because we dont get any new content at all until well after the console launch. All this balancing etc for PVP will never be perfect anyways.
I'd rather they took their time and got it right, rather than have to put up with even more hate posts on the forums about how they rushed it and got it all wrong.
They have already had months. How much longer do you think? A year? 6 months?
We're talking about transferring 1.6 from PTS to Live. They've had a couple of weeks for testing by NA players, a few days for testing by EU players.
I think this preview is hardly a "test". This can easily be done on live. Its just players playing the game. I bet if you check less than 0.1% ever bother putting in a bug report. Meanwhile all the people on live are stuck because they arent tracking our progress. Id prefer to actually be able to play the game rather than waiting and waiting. They announced the Justice system and showed previews of it in July of last year. How much longer is this going to take?
These are all the issues they have already found and fixed within less than a week on the PTS because of the community testing the content. http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/149987/pts-patch-notes-v1-6-1/p1
That patch was the result of only 5 days on the PTS and look how huge it is.
Many changes were made including changes to the Justice System which is the OP of this thread currently getting derailed. Give the PTS time to do what it's designed to do - Find the majority of issues before it goes live.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I wish they would publish his 1.6 update already to the live servers. We have been waiting far too long already.
There are still a lot of things to Iron out before it goes live.
There is always crap to iron out. Nothing will ever be perfect. They can push this live and work on it until Fall because we dont get any new content at all until well after the console launch. All this balancing etc for PVP will never be perfect anyways.
I'd rather they took their time and got it right, rather than have to put up with even more hate posts on the forums about how they rushed it and got it all wrong.
They have already had months. How much longer do you think? A year? 6 months?
We're talking about transferring 1.6 from PTS to Live. They've had a couple of weeks for testing by NA players, a few days for testing by EU players.
I think this preview is hardly a "test". This can easily be done on live. Its just players playing the game. I bet if you check less than 0.1% ever bother putting in a bug report. Meanwhile all the people on live are stuck because they arent tracking our progress. Id prefer to actually be able to play the game rather than waiting and waiting. They announced the Justice system and showed previews of it in July of last year. How much longer is this going to take?
These are all the issues they have already found and fixed within less than a week on the PTS because of the community testing the content. http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/149987/pts-patch-notes-v1-6-1/p1
That patch was the result of only 5 days on the PTS and look how huge it is.
Many changes were made including changes to the Justice System which is the OP of this thread currently getting derailed. Give the PTS time to do what it's designed to do - Find the majority of issues before it goes live.
I think its cute how you believe all that stuff was community based lol. Like they found all that stuff AND fixed it in a week. More likely very little to none of it was reported during the PTS phase and were bugs they already knew about and had fixes in the works for.
Alphashado wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I wish they would publish his 1.6 update already to the live servers. We have been waiting far too long already.
There are still a lot of things to Iron out before it goes live.
There is always crap to iron out. Nothing will ever be perfect. They can push this live and work on it until Fall because we dont get any new content at all until well after the console launch. All this balancing etc for PVP will never be perfect anyways.
I'd rather they took their time and got it right, rather than have to put up with even more hate posts on the forums about how they rushed it and got it all wrong.
They have already had months. How much longer do you think? A year? 6 months?
We're talking about transferring 1.6 from PTS to Live. They've had a couple of weeks for testing by NA players, a few days for testing by EU players.
I think this preview is hardly a "test". This can easily be done on live. Its just players playing the game. I bet if you check less than 0.1% ever bother putting in a bug report. Meanwhile all the people on live are stuck because they arent tracking our progress. Id prefer to actually be able to play the game rather than waiting and waiting. They announced the Justice system and showed previews of it in July of last year. How much longer is this going to take?
These are all the issues they have already found and fixed within less than a week on the PTS because of the community testing the content. http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/149987/pts-patch-notes-v1-6-1/p1
That patch was the result of only 5 days on the PTS and look how huge it is.
Many changes were made including changes to the Justice System which is the OP of this thread currently getting derailed. Give the PTS time to do what it's designed to do - Find the majority of issues before it goes live.
I think its cute how you believe all that stuff was community based lol. Like they found all that stuff AND fixed it in a week. More likely very little to none of it was reported during the PTS phase and were bugs they already knew about and had fixes in the works for.
This thread is about the justice system and whether or not you think it will be boring after a while. I will not discuss anymore off topic issues with you. You have your opinion and you have voiced it quite loudly and rudely.
In regards to the topic of the thread, I encourage anyone who is curious about the justice system to DL the PTS and play around with it some.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Also those mats you are collecting are going to be worthless anyways unless you want to sell em to a vendor for 10g each.
rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Also those mats you are collecting are going to be worthless anyways unless you want to sell em to a vendor for 10g each.
I'm using them to level my professions.
I want to get them levelled before 1.6 hits and all containers get locked. As I said, i've got no interest in stealing and guard dodging and there is no way i'm paying 10g per mat.
They still have over a month before March 17th so it's all good.
cote-bmsb16_ESO wrote: »I just wana kill guards.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »As far as they have said 1.6 will hit the servers before March 17th.
rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »As far as they have said 1.6 will hit the servers before March 17th.
I know that, but it's only February 4th.
They still have 40 days until March 16th, well over a month. It will still be out before the 17th so no one can complain.
Win/win.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Give it some time?! We havent had any new content since friggin last summer and this guy says give it time. They have been working on 1.6 for months. How much more friggin time do they need?
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Give it some time?! We havent had any new content since friggin last summer and this guy says give it time. They have been working on 1.6 for months. How much more friggin time do they need?
Have you gone on and tested all aspects of the game on the PTS? If you had, you would not be wanting this tomorrow. I am not saying it is a complete mess, but it does need some tweaks, fixes and more importantly, balance work done.
Provisioning alone is not ready for Prime Time based on the changes made in 1.61.
Given that some of that balance involves how existing materials in inventories are converted over, no it's not something that can be adjusted after it hits live servers. There are also several crucial bugs that must be fixed before it goes live, such as the one that causes anything in your inventory above your base bag space (ie. stuff that you can carry only because you are using a horse with increased inventory capacity) to vanish.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Give it some time?! We havent had any new content since friggin last summer and this guy says give it time. They have been working on 1.6 for months. How much more friggin time do they need?
Have you gone on and tested all aspects of the game on the PTS? If you had, you would not be wanting this tomorrow. I am not saying it is a complete mess, but it does need some tweaks, fixes and more importantly, balance work done.
Provisioning alone is not ready for Prime Time based on the changes made in 1.61.
This kind of stuff can all be adjusted after it hits the live servers. So mats cost a little more. Thats something I doubt they even need a patch to change. Balance work is something that is on going. Its never going to be achieved before March for sure. So at some point you have to say "This is it go with it.".
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Given that some of that balance involves how existing materials in inventories are converted over, no it's not something that can be adjusted after it hits live servers. There are also several crucial bugs that must be fixed before it goes live, such as the one that causes anything in your inventory above your base bag space (ie. stuff that you can carry only because you are using a horse with increased inventory capacity) to vanish.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Give it some time?! We havent had any new content since friggin last summer and this guy says give it time. They have been working on 1.6 for months. How much more friggin time do they need?
Have you gone on and tested all aspects of the game on the PTS? If you had, you would not be wanting this tomorrow. I am not saying it is a complete mess, but it does need some tweaks, fixes and more importantly, balance work done.
Provisioning alone is not ready for Prime Time based on the changes made in 1.61.
This kind of stuff can all be adjusted after it hits the live servers. So mats cost a little more. Thats something I doubt they even need a patch to change. Balance work is something that is on going. Its never going to be achieved before March for sure. So at some point you have to say "This is it go with it.".
1.61 is not ready for live. Hopefully it won't take more than a couple of weeks to get it to a point where it can be taken live, and later tweaked, but it is definitely not at that point now.