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weapon swap

gimpdrb14_ESO
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can we have the option of going inbetween the to the 2 button swap and 1 button swap
  • Tarikko
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    Wut?!
  • gimpdrb14_ESO
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    on pts you have to use 2 keybinds for weapon swapping i want to be able to use one
  • Soulac
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    It's still there..
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  • fromtesonlineb16_ESO
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    You mean it's no longer a weapon swap but there's a keybind for each weapon you have to select separately.

    If so that's a good change IMO but I agree it would be better implemented as an option for those who prefer the TES-way of doing this.
    Edited by fromtesonlineb16_ESO on February 4, 2015 2:42PM
  • Tarikko
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    O that's a new change I haven't read about.. Apologies, didn't get it at first
  • gimpdrb14_ESO
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    i just like the old way better and would like the option to go to it
  • McDoogs
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    is this new in 1.6.1?
  • gimpdrb14_ESO
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    yes check your key bindings
  • McDoogs
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    Lame, I hadnt logged in since it's EU's turn on PTS. Crappy, unasked for change imo
    Edited by McDoogs on February 4, 2015 4:39PM
  • Orchish
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    I am confused, i am using the same old button as always to swap weapons... it doesn't take two for me? :S have i misunderstood ?
    Edited by Orchish on February 4, 2015 4:40PM
  • Arki
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    They are additional buttons for those that want to use two buttons, the toggle is not removed
  • Lynx7386
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    McDoogs wrote: »
    Lame, I hadnt logged in since it's EU's turn on PTS. Crappy, unasked for change imo

    It was asked for. With only the one button swap, lag often causes you to double swap, and that's a bad thing in the middle of a hectic fight.
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  • HeroOfNone
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    can we have the option of going inbetween the to the 2 button swap and 1 button swap

    The toggle is on by default. Options for weapon 1 and weapon 2 have to be bound in keybinds. I use it on my mouse buttons.
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Lame, I hadnt logged in since it's EU's turn on PTS. Crappy, unasked for change imo

    Please read the forums a little. It was under PVE for a while and moved to the suggestions

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/136563/please-give-weapon-1-and-weapon-2-their-own-individual-swap-keys/p1
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  • pmn100b16_ESO
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Lame, I hadnt logged in since it's EU's turn on PTS. Crappy, unasked for change imo

    It was asked for. With only the one button swap, lag often causes you to double swap, and that's a bad thing in the middle of a hectic fight.

    But doesn't swap quick enough anymore when you want it to. I'm used to hitting weapon swap right after using a skill, but it doesn't swap because there's a little padlock on the bar. Need to wait something like a second after using a skill before the padlock goes and you can weapon swap. Don't like it.
  • HeroOfNone
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Lame, I hadnt logged in since it's EU's turn on PTS. Crappy, unasked for change imo

    It was asked for. With only the one button swap, lag often causes you to double swap, and that's a bad thing in the middle of a hectic fight.

    But doesn't swap quick enough anymore when you want it to. I'm used to hitting weapon swap right after using a skill, but it doesn't swap because there's a little padlock on the bar. Need to wait something like a second after using a skill before the padlock goes and you can weapon swap. Don't like it.

    You don't need to use it if you don't want to. The standard toggle weapon swap is still there.

    The padlock on the bar is a separate issue, where it sounds like they are either locking the bar or, more than likely, letting you know when your bar is locked because you're still in a skill animation. You had the same lock in 1.5, but it was never displayed.
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  • emre.as.aslanb16_ESO
    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Lame, I hadnt logged in since it's EU's turn on PTS. Crappy, unasked for change imo

    It was asked for. With only the one button swap, lag often causes you to double swap, and that's a bad thing in the middle of a hectic fight.

    Yeah, they fixed that as well... PvP feels like a permanent stalemate.
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  • pmn100b16_ESO
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Lame, I hadnt logged in since it's EU's turn on PTS. Crappy, unasked for change imo

    It was asked for. With only the one button swap, lag often causes you to double swap, and that's a bad thing in the middle of a hectic fight.

    But doesn't swap quick enough anymore when you want it to. I'm used to hitting weapon swap right after using a skill, but it doesn't swap because there's a little padlock on the bar. Need to wait something like a second after using a skill before the padlock goes and you can weapon swap. Don't like it.

    You don't need to use it if you don't want to. The standard toggle weapon swap is still there.

    The padlock on the bar is a separate issue, where it sounds like they are either locking the bar or, more than likely, letting you know when your bar is locked because you're still in a skill animation. You had the same lock in 1.5, but it was never displayed.

    No, on live the weapon swap interrupts the animation and swaps bars. On pts, the padlock prevents the weapon swap from cutting into the skill animation. You have to wait for the skill animation to finish it would seem for the padlock to lift. Thats new.

    Edit to add, it only seems to be an extra split second delay for the padlock to lift, but its enough to interrupt the combat flow for me.
    Edited by pmn100b16_ESO on February 4, 2015 5:28PM
  • HeroOfNone
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Lame, I hadnt logged in since it's EU's turn on PTS. Crappy, unasked for change imo

    It was asked for. With only the one button swap, lag often causes you to double swap, and that's a bad thing in the middle of a hectic fight.

    But doesn't swap quick enough anymore when you want it to. I'm used to hitting weapon swap right after using a skill, but it doesn't swap because there's a little padlock on the bar. Need to wait something like a second after using a skill before the padlock goes and you can weapon swap. Don't like it.

    You don't need to use it if you don't want to. The standard toggle weapon swap is still there.

    The padlock on the bar is a separate issue, where it sounds like they are either locking the bar or, more than likely, letting you know when your bar is locked because you're still in a skill animation. You had the same lock in 1.5, but it was never displayed.

    No, on live the weapon swap interrupts the animation and swaps bars. On pts, the padlock prevents the weapon swap from cutting into the skill animation. You have to wait for the skill animation to finish it would seem for the padlock to lift. Thats new.

    Edit to add, it only seems to be an extra split second delay for the padlock to lift, but its enough to interrupt the combat flow for me.

    The skills themselves changed, and there were certain animations on 1.5 you couldn't cancel to swap out.

    On pts, when you see the pad lock, are you able to block or animation cancel to make the ability and the padlock go away faster? If not then they'very probably locked the animation to a set time.
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  • pmn100b16_ESO
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Lame, I hadnt logged in since it's EU's turn on PTS. Crappy, unasked for change imo

    It was asked for. With only the one button swap, lag often causes you to double swap, and that's a bad thing in the middle of a hectic fight.

    But doesn't swap quick enough anymore when you want it to. I'm used to hitting weapon swap right after using a skill, but it doesn't swap because there's a little padlock on the bar. Need to wait something like a second after using a skill before the padlock goes and you can weapon swap. Don't like it.

    You don't need to use it if you don't want to. The standard toggle weapon swap is still there.

    The padlock on the bar is a separate issue, where it sounds like they are either locking the bar or, more than likely, letting you know when your bar is locked because you're still in a skill animation. You had the same lock in 1.5, but it was never displayed.

    No, on live the weapon swap interrupts the animation and swaps bars. On pts, the padlock prevents the weapon swap from cutting into the skill animation. You have to wait for the skill animation to finish it would seem for the padlock to lift. Thats new.

    Edit to add, it only seems to be an extra split second delay for the padlock to lift, but its enough to interrupt the combat flow for me.

    The skills themselves changed, and there were certain animations on 1.5 you couldn't cancel to swap out.

    On pts, when you see the pad lock, are you able to block or animation cancel to make the ability and the padlock go away faster? If not then they'very probably locked the animation to a set time.

    Just done another test and by the time I ani-cancel a skill with bash, the padlock has timed out naturally anyway. Its seems I've just got to get used to weapon swapping a split second later than I normally do. Haven't seen anyone else complain about this so it must just be me. Maybe when its live on EU the latency reduction will help.
  • HeroOfNone
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    Maybe, but like I said, this seems to be more of an indicator than an actual lock our from swapping. I'll test some on stream tonight if I get on
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  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    Yes, weapon swapping on the PTS is definitely slower than live. It has the padlock and will not let you swap in certain situations like you can on live. This is very, very apparent if you've spent any time in combat on the PTS.
  • HeroOfNone
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    Yes, weapon swapping on the PTS is definitely slower than live. It has the padlock and will not let you swap in certain situations like you can on live. This is very, very apparent if you've spent any time in combat on the PTS.

    I found some of it to be faster with the base swap and faster to do abilities after the swap (I the light attack delay on melee we have on live) however I have found that animation canceling using base, block, or swapping has been delayed. Not saying it's not necessarily slower, however the timing on skill has been tweaked and there seems to be limitations to animation canceling, not to just weapon swapping.
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