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Magicka nightblades in 1.6
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Now that ambush and several other morphs have been changed to stamina builds, and with light armor nerfs, will dual wield or 1h/s magicka nightblades be even viable in pvp anymore? Are there any working builds?
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LegacyDM✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dual wield magicka NB Was never viable to begin with! ZOS has never supported the stealth assassin dual wield magicka NB archtypes playstyle and keeps nerfing it into the ground.Edited by LegacyDM on February 1, 2015 6:38PMLegacy of Kain
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SanderBuraas✭✭✭✭✭joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »Dual wield magicka NB Was never viable to begin with! ZOS has never supported the stealth assassin dual wield magicka NB archtypes playstyle and keeps nerfing it into the ground.
That is not correct. Also, when you play as a magicka based Nightblade, you don't use your weapon as much, so you rely on your skills for burst damage. You can kill most people with a combo of skills from stealth, with a restoration staff on the second bar of course. There are many builds out there, still viable for the new update, you might just have to do minor tweaks.Edited by SanderBuraas on February 1, 2015 6:47PM1 -
Araxleon✭✭✭✭✭I already figured it out.
1. its a different play style
2. balance wise we arent on the top anymore in terms of damage magicka wise we are equal if not weaker to sorcs in 1.6 but I need more testing they seem to be the only one to really do massive damage on me stopping me from going offensive (but I might just need to man up and go offensive lol)
3. Destro staff is your best choice ;P why destro? because spell pen + stamina mangment you wil need to use ur stam for rolling and blocking as a magicka build so a physical weapon is not recommended (only bow for long range stam return)
I have a legendary sword and shield I have run for FOREVER and I also had a destro staff for PVE but the sword and shield isnt good for pvp magicka builds anymore.
overall I already have my build done for magicka NB on PTS. I just need to sets and suchEdited by Araxleon on February 1, 2015 6:53PM3 -
Cyhawk✭✭✭Just use the magicka versions of those. You can still use Ambush even though the damage will be lower for the damage bonus which is what we really want anyways. Also DKs have been using Invasion since forever and its a stamina skill. Its not a big issue.
Come on Araxleon, I expect better from you.Edited by Cyhawk on February 1, 2015 7:29PM0 -
Araxleon✭✭✭✭✭Just use the magicka versions of those. You can still use Ambush even though the damage will be lower for the damage bonus which is what we really want anyways. Also DKs have been using Invasion since forever and its a stamina skill. Its not a big issue.
Come on Araxleon, I expect better from you.
in what sense? Im just saying whats best as a magicka build but anything is possible.
though people thinking that they can just use the other morphs of ambush and suprise attack and play like before are wrong it doesnt work good.0 -
LegacyDM✭✭✭✭✭
✭joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »Dual wield magicka NB Was never viable to begin with! ZOS has never supported the stealth assassin dual wield magicka NB archtypes playstyle and keeps nerfing it into the ground.
That is not correct. Also, when you play as a magicka based Nightblade, you don't use your weapon as much, so you rely on your skills for burst damage. You can kill most people with a combo of skills from stealth, with a restoration staff on the second bar of course. There are many builds out there, still viable for the new update, you might just have to do minor tweaks.
Sure if they are on horseback. Or standing around picking their nose. Otherwise good luck bursting and killing most people when they just shield block + cast. Or bolt escape + stun. Or spam blazing shield + instant heal. If your a magicka NB you don't have enough stamina to use dual wield weapon skills effectively, hence, my comment they were never viable to begin with. And it certainly doesn't help that the one skill that we should rely on as a magicka NB the most is cloak, and its broke.Legacy of Kain
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LegacyDM✭✭✭✭✭
✭Just use the magicka versions of those. You can still use Ambush even though the damage will be lower for the damage bonus which is what we really want anyways. Also DKs have been using Invasion since forever and its a stamina skill. Its not a big issue.
Come on Araxleon, I expect better from you.
Speak for yourself, why as a magicka NB am I forced to give up the %damage increase and immobilization for crappy Lotus fan now. I never said I wanted a damage reduction...Legacy of Kain
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SanderBuraas✭✭✭✭✭joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »Just use the magicka versions of those. You can still use Ambush even though the damage will be lower for the damage bonus which is what we really want anyways. Also DKs have been using Invasion since forever and its a stamina skill. Its not a big issue.
Come on Araxleon, I expect better from you.
Speak for yourself, why as a magicka NB am I forced to give up the %damage increase and immobilization for crappy Lotus fan now. I never said I wanted a damage reduction...
You don't always get what you want. These changes help balance various builds. This sheds more light to stamina builds, as they are almost non-existent.1 -
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✭I think Magicka Sword & Board wil be pretty viable in 1.6
please look at this
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gAw71xY8hDIEdited by hrothbern on February 1, 2015 7:59PM"I still do not understand why I followed the advice of Captain Rana to bring the villagers of Bleakrock into safety. We should have fought for our village and not have backed down, with our tail between our legs. Now my home village is in shambles, the houses burning, the invaders feasting.I swear every day to Shor that after Molag Bal has been defeated, I will hunt down the invaders and restore peace in Bleakrock and drink my mead with my friends at the market place".PC-EU1