PTS: Now is the time to fix cloak once and for all

Wahee · January 2015

...add a 0.5 second immunity on cast. Short enough to prevent any unintended use of the immunity and long enough to prevent the vast majority of issues still breaking cloak in 1.6. This change would in no way effect the balance of the game and should be a simple fix to implement.

Now is the time! 1.6 changed everything, all the skills have been tweaked. 1.6 is a fresh new start for ESO and this fresh new start needs to see the end of cloak bugs that have persisted for over a year.

Just do it ZOS, make the change before 1.6 hits live and let's be done with the cloak issues once and for all.

keni_harringtonb16_ESO · January 2015

agree

Wing · January 2015

or do something geez, I think it lasts a short enough amount of time that making bleeds or dots that you have inflicted on others or others have inflicted on you NOT break the cloak is fine. or damage done or taken period, but if you initiate in attack AFTER you use cloak it breaks. . .seems fine.

Samadhi · January 2015

Wing wrote: »

or do something geez, I think it lasts a short enough amount of time that making bleeds or dots that you have inflicted on others or others have inflicted on you NOT break the cloak is fine. or damage done or taken period, but if you initiate in attack AFTER you use cloak it breaks. . .seems fine.

DoTs that the Nightblade casts on a target before going invisible are not supposed to be breaking Cloak.
A few months ago, there was a bug fix in one of the patches that overhauled all DoTs to work properly with Cloak, and they worked for a while.
On live presently, know that Cloak is being broken by Poison Arrow and Lethal Arrow again.
If you know any other DoTs specifically by name that are having issues, suggest putting in a /bug. They are not supposed to be having this issue.

Synozeer · January 2015

Using Degeneration on an enemy target and then Cloaking will break it as soon as the damage ticks.

One step forward, two steps back....

Cody · January 2015

stealth has just taken a HUGE downslope in 1.6

such a shame.

Berinima · January 2015

And stealth in 1.6 isn't even the worst part of the patch. It's pretty bad though.

Ah, you did so many godawful things in the patch I can't even decide. But yeah, fix cloak.

Domander · January 2015

Wing wrote: »

or do something geez, I think it lasts a short enough amount of time that making bleeds or dots that you have inflicted on others or others have inflicted on you NOT break the cloak is fine. or damage done or taken period, but if you initiate in attack AFTER you use cloak it breaks. . .seems fine.

Ever fight someone who repeatedly cloaks?

detect potion will help, but only for 10 seconds of the fight, if you have one available.

so I disagree.

Wing · January 2015

Domander wrote: »

Ever fight someone who repeatedly cloaks?

detect potion will help, but only for 10 seconds of the fight, if you have one available.

so I disagree.

nope, because even magicka builds run out of magicka too fast to stay cloaked for long. and 10 seconds in pvp is death 3 times over so I don't see the problem?

Wahee · January 2015

Domander wrote: »

Wing wrote: »

or do something geez, I think it lasts a short enough amount of time that making bleeds or dots that you have inflicted on others or others have inflicted on you NOT break the cloak is fine. or damage done or taken period, but if you initiate in attack AFTER you use cloak it breaks. . .seems fine.

Ever fight someone who repeatedly cloaks?

detect potion will help, but only for 10 seconds of the fight, if you have one available.

so I disagree.

Ever used your most expensive defensive ability 6 times in a row and had each one of them fail to do anything at all?

...Being annoyed by the skill working properly is no excuse for allowing it to remain unreliable and buggy.

Domander · January 2015

Wahee wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

Wing wrote: »

or do something geez, I think it lasts a short enough amount of time that making bleeds or dots that you have inflicted on others or others have inflicted on you NOT break the cloak is fine. or damage done or taken period, but if you initiate in attack AFTER you use cloak it breaks. . .seems fine.

Ever fight someone who repeatedly cloaks?

detect potion will help, but only for 10 seconds of the fight, if you have one available.

so I disagree.

Ever used your most expensive defensive ability 6 times in a row and had each one of them fail to do anything at all?

...Being annoyed by the skill working properly is no excuse for allowing it to remain unreliable and buggy.

The skill should be fixed, but the post I quoted wanted immunity to damage.

I fought someone yesterday who used the cloak and attack strategy, worked pretty well for them. I won though there were missed opportunities where I could have been beaten. It was incredibly annoying to fight, but it seemed to work well.

and yes.....

I have a nightblade, 2 actually.

Wahee · January 2015

Domander wrote: »

Wahee wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

Wing wrote: »

or do something geez, I think it lasts a short enough amount of time that making bleeds or dots that you have inflicted on others or others have inflicted on you NOT break the cloak is fine. or damage done or taken period, but if you initiate in attack AFTER you use cloak it breaks. . .seems fine.

Ever fight someone who repeatedly cloaks?

detect potion will help, but only for 10 seconds of the fight, if you have one available.

so I disagree.

Ever used your most expensive defensive ability 6 times in a row and had each one of them fail to do anything at all?

...Being annoyed by the skill working properly is no excuse for allowing it to remain unreliable and buggy.

The skill should be fixed, but the post I quoted wanted immunity to damage.

and yes, I have a nightblade, 2 actually.

I know, I wrote it lol. I asked for a 0.5 second immunity. 0.5. Half a second. Literally nothing at all. Just enough to prevent damage that cloak is supposed to avoid. Heck, you could do 0.25 of a second if you wanted and it would probably still work.

Domander · January 2015

I'd like to add that even if they fix it, they keep breaking it, even when there's no notes on changing anything with it.