Yeah me to. MMO's change, thats the way it is. In SWG i spend 70 million credits on "anti decay" kits for my armor. Then they decided all armor no longer needed to decay and got rid of it. I bought 8 Nym's slugthrowers 6 million a piece. Everytime i bought one they where nerfed soon afterwards. I sold 60 pnt Tiglon's for 250 million after the NGE which made me rich though. Until everyone started to do it.

Point is... mmo's change. It is also in the EULA everything is subject to change. Better deal with it because next year the game will be totally different again of what we have soon.

JoffyToffy69 wrote: »

I still have my Forward Camps that have been removed

Muhahahahah Ditto, I can not bring myself to remove them

killedbyping wrote: »

Somebody had to start such topic.

Ok, all our horses are getting consolidated into single UI available for every character.

While this is pretty nice change and you no longer have to spend gold to buy horse every character (you will still have to spend quite alot of time to level up your riding skills) those of us who have several alts and bought them Light Horse just loset 42700g. Multiply this number by the number of alts you have with that horse.
I lost 85400 for example (do not count horse on my main).

So, lets get this Complain Train started.

Well, you still get something out of the horses you bought - it saves you time.

If you bought a light horse for each of your alts, each of them will automatically get speed riding skill maxed out. If you bought them a 1g horse instead, you will have to spend 10 days training to max it out.

But, yea. It's a pricey shortcut

Mr.Turtlesworth wrote: »

lol i got the imperial edition.

xD

Yupp Gotta love the 1gp horse

bertenburnyb16_ESO wrote: »

yes give me back the 2 gold I spend on the 2 horses on my alt

(+ 2*50*250 gold for upgrading them)

I can see the logic behind wanting refunds on the purchase price of horses (although I don't see it happening), but there is no logic behind a refund on the upgrades. Those aren't lost: they become that character's riding skill. The horses become account-wide, but their upgrades go to the character who the horse used to belong to.

The far bigger complaint about the horse change at the moment is that it's buggy as heck and people are losing inventory spaces, and hence, losing items from their inventory.

Assuming they manage to fix this before live (and there's going to be a huge ****-storm if they don't), I really won't care about the lost gold I spent buying horses on alts.

Wolfsspinne wrote: »

What would you do with all the refunded gold anyway?

I mean there is nothing except horses and inventory space in ESO that you must pay gold for.

Exactly. there is no economy in this Game . I am sitting on over 700k gold just by selling 'useless' stuff to other players rather than destroying it. My poor fellow cannot even buy a house to rest his weary bones . No he has to sleep outdoors without even tent to shield him from the elements.

ZoS made many bad decisions in making this game and think that by changing to the Champion system they have solved the problem.

Unfortunately the game is rotten to the core. Starting with the distinct levelled areas(holding the credit card wielding children's hands so they will not get frightened) and going right through to the end game at approximately Level 50 that left Anchors dropping all over Tamriel . Game over no need to do Cadwell's silver and gold as they are just pointless quest grinds that you get as fillers in a normal story line. . Probably the main reason so many fled this bean-counter created game.

So to complain about the money most of us have spent to create horses is missing the point entirely .

LonePirate wrote: »

Another problem associated with this change is that the initial starting bonuses you receive immediate upon purchase of a Light Horse or a Draft Horse do not transfer to the new system. The horse stats you receive are based on what you have fed your horse and not what was included with its purchase.

There was a staff post that indicated that the bonus for purchasing these horses would be included in the 1.6 riding skill, but many of us found on logging into the PTS that this was not the case. Only the feedings count. My requests for clarification have been met only with silence.

I do not expect a refund or any kind of compensation coming my way for any of the changes made (though I think it would be a nice gesture). It's quite clear to me that I got what I paid for and that's all done; all future things are to attract the new people and their crown shop money.

The good news is soon I can play for free. Maybe that's intended to be our consolation prize.

Have you been using your horse(s) since buying, and will you continue to do so until 1.6 is live? You have benefitted from your mount(s) as you wanted and are not due anything in return.

As much as I'd like the money back, im satisfied with having access to my bag space and speed at the same time.

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Agreed, things change, you waste some money on stuff that becomes obsolete. Welcome to (MMO) life.

Forget about the waste, consider it the cost of doing business, and carry on. Not like you won't earn that and more chasing champion points anyways...

This. Many people had lots of legendary items they spent a lot more than a few mounts' worth to upgrade before Craglorn hit and the raise to VR12 came. Then the same thing happened again with VR14, and when they revamped the set bonuses in general to have mini bonuses while at the same time changing some of them significantly. It's an MMORPG, things change.

No pastreward for "1000" treasure chest achievement(for LEgedermain skill line)
No pastreward for dungeon achievement (with exp)
No pastreward for exp after v14 (i got 50kk for example)
No pastreward for Undaunted lvl

So why ZOS should give refund for horse?Just forget about it.