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Nightblade 1.6 Nerf
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This makes perfect sense now with all the crying threads. I'd be willing to wager many are from EU Players who are just reading the patch notes (since they don't yet have Char copy on PTS) and haven't actually tested the changes on PTS yet. I didn't even think about EU Players on the Forums. I'm not saying EU Players are bad, but if they are JUST reading the patch notes and haven't tested builds yet on PTS then complaining about this or that on the forums is wasting your time.I did but since EU players dont get their char copied, I can't really try out all I would. NB melee magicka got huges nerfs, I've already explain why. Nobody can deny that.
Pst: If you want crazy damages go stam 2h, momentum+dawnbreaker give bonuses for your class skills. Ppl wont block with the new block cost. And you got 3* more armor (ok normal) ANd spell resist than Light armor (a non-sense). Just a tip. Something I wont do because Im not a fotm player.3 -
Pirhana7_ESO✭✭✭✭✭This patch actually makes nightblades a viable class to play. Just because you can now make a stam based nb doesn't mean its been nerfed. Night blades for the good end of this deal with sorcs close behind. Magicka builds were only prominent on NBS because steam builds were broken. They are now effective.
Night blades are getting a huge buff.
Now if you had been crying about how some of the night blade passives are complete *** such as shadow barriers change. I would support your claim. But you're crying over a buff.
Can you explain me what you consider a buff for NB stamina? It's viable? It is right now in LIVE. I raid with him doing great DMG, but what about pvp?
We have no real escape besides that cloack.
1 ambush, 1 surprise attack, 1 dodge = 0 stamina.
How are you telling me that this is a buff? Nightblade stamina now suffers, his burst damage isn't that good and magika NB (which was the only viable NB) is nerfed.
Please can you tell me where are the buffs? Mark target? Blur? Agony? Man, they aren't really that good skills in pvp, mark target if any and agony now with cast time reduced, quite questionable, maybe good for stop healers/shield templars.
The main problem it seems like you guys are not talking about pvp, isnt? Correct me plase.
Go to the PTS and actually try it with a stamina build.
I dropped all magika items and stats and went with 75%stam, 25% health build. All MA and DW and I NEVER ran out of stamina. Ambush, Surprise Attack, Flurry, Surprise Attack, dead target and I am still at 60% stamina.
I had 23,000 stamina, 24,000 health, 11,000 magika with food and only blue gear. Night mother / Hundintons set bonus give a very high stamina regain. never once do I remember going below 40% even when spamming flurry.
As for magika I used ultility abilities like BLUR which is a must have now with 40% speed morph and the 20% evasion is very nice. With the 4 second 40% speed bonus I could actually land Surprise Attacks very easy without even having to use Ambush. (I might actually drop ambush now)
I also used Shades for the debuff and Cripple to keep anyone from getting away. Cripple snares by 40% and gives you the 40% speed buff now aswell as has a decent dot even with +0 magika.
Mark the Target has a very nice debuff now and no negative effect on you, this also really ups our damage.
Vanish had its cost lowered a little as well. Even with +0 magika in my build I could still use it to escape when needed.
This new NB stamina build was amazing, I was doing far more damage with it than I was doing on LIVE servers.
You also have to remember LA gets hit very hard now by stamina attacks. I don't see anyone rolling LA melee builds now except for maybe vanish NBs but Stamina NBs will actually out damage them now.Edited by Pirhana7_ESO on January 28, 2015 9:48PM5 -
olemanwinter✭✭✭✭✭I'm the PvP PTS server right now.
It's hilarious.
Stealth is still broken. And now because so many of the skills I need are Stamina based, I can't to do burst DPS and then have any sprint/roll dodge/block, etc.
Mellee STEALTH NB is a mess.
I understand Zos doesn't want someone being constantly 1-shot killed from stealth.
But the inverse of that problem still exists. I sneak all the way up to someone in stealth and hit him with my biggest attack and it does LITERALLY ZERO DAMAGE.
Except now, I had to spec into Stamina for the burst, so I don't have as much magica to SPAM cloak (and spam is the only way it works) and because all the skills and sneaking require stamina I have no way to really evade.
Post 1.6 NB Stealth seems to be and either/or situation.
Either you 1-shot a noob, or you get 1-shotted yourself by anyone else.
There is no try and fail and back off to try again, or try and fail and sneak away, or try and fail and then revert to secondary play style for prolonged fight.
AND STEALTH.
I'm being detected EVERYWHERE. From no visible source. CONSTANTLY.
I recorded it to post. Just standing in a field detected. Nobody around. Move 10 feet and it goes away. Move 10 feet further the same direction and I'm detected again.
Finally, someone comes into view in the distance, sees me immediately, makes directly for me.
Hilarious.
Why don't they just remove Stealth from the game? It's obvious they don't want it work.Edited by olemanwinter on January 28, 2015 10:46PM4 -
Shuichi✭✭✭olemanwinter wrote: »I'm the PvP PTS server right now.
It's hilarious.
Stealth is still broken. And now because so many of the skills I need are Stamina based, I can't to do burst DPS and then have any sprint/roll dodge/block, etc.
Mellee NB is a mess.
Having the exact same issues, without heated blades I lose even faster to melee fighters. Blur and Mirage stacked won't save you now, I'm thinking Leeching strikes might have to make an appearance on my build.
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✭✭✭✭✭Melee magicka builds are in a mess, you mean. Stamina builds are loving the changes.PS4 / NA
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✭They does. Stamina weapon damage and physical crit. Momentum should increase only 2h skills and light/heavy attacks damages, or every stamina player will use it as buff bar, or as main bar with a resto secondary.Edited by Erondil on January 28, 2015 10:17PM~retired~
EU server, former Zerg Squad and Banana Squad officer
Dennegor NB AD, AvA 50 Grand Overlord 24/05/2016
rekt you NB AD, AvA 32
Erondil Sorc AD, AvA 23
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Pirhana7_ESO✭✭✭✭✭olemanwinter wrote: »I'm the PvP PTS server right now.
It's hilarious.
Stealth is still broken. And now because so many of the skills I need are Stamina based, I can't to do burst DPS and then have any sprint/roll dodge/block, etc.
Mellee NB is a mess.
I understand Zos doesn't want someone being constantly 1-shot killed from stealth.
But the inverse of that problem still exists. I sneak all the way up to someone in stealth and hit him with my biggest attack and it does LITERALLY ZERO DAMAGE.
Except now, I had to spec into Stamina for the burst, so I don't have as much magica to SPAM cloak (and spam is the only way it works) and because all the skills and sneaking require stamina I have no way to really evade.
Post 1.6 NB Stealth seems to be and either/or situation.
Either you 1-shot a noob, or you get 1-shotted yourself by anyone else.
There is no try and fail and back off to try again, or try and fail and sneak away, or try and fail and then revert to secondary play style for prolonged fight.
Are you using medium armor and a high stamina spec? if not dont expect stamina abilities to do any real damage. With MA and high stamina a sneak attack ambush hits harder than it did with a live magika build. Surprise attack hits even harder.
You cant split magika and stamina now. You have to go all one way or the other but you can still use utilities from your non spec.Edited by Pirhana7_ESO on January 28, 2015 10:20PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭They does. Stamina weapon damage and physical crit. Momentum should increase only 2h skills and light/heavy attacks damages, or every stamina player will use it as buff bar, or as main bar with a resto secondary.
Won't work as a buff bar, with momentum active you only get the damage boost if you have a 2h weapon equipped. Swapping to a different weapon after casting it doesn't give the damage bonus.
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M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
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Stumkrav✭✭Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »Are you using medium armor and a high stamina spec? if not dont expect stamina abilities to do any real damage. With MA and high stamina a sneak attack ambush hits harder than it did with a live magika build. Surprise attack hits even harder.
You cant split magika and stamina now. You have to go all one way or the other but you can still use utilities from your non spec.
I'm full stamina, Night mother set... My ambush/surprise atack didn't do the same burst damage as in Live, that's for sure. But there's more, I'm getting deleted by mobs on spellscar, when in Live I can kill them in packs alone with sap/steel tornado.
Yup, it's messed for me too.
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✭✭✭✭They does. Stamina weapon damage and physical crit. Momentum should increase only 2h skills and light/heavy attacks damages, or every stamina player will use it as buff bar, or as main bar with a resto secondary.
Won't work as a buff bar, with momentum active you only get the damage boost if you have a 2h weapon equipped. Swapping to a different weapon after casting it doesn't give the damage bonus.
Nope, they've actually made it give the "Major Brutality" buff, says so on the tooltip.
That's pretty much what everyone building for burst damage is going to be using, if it doesn't get reverted.
The other four ways of getting this +20% damage buff are: being a sorc (Surge grants it), using Aggressive Warhorn (ultimate), drinking a potion & using Sap Essence (requires you to be near someone & hit them with it).
So yeah... Momentum is pretty damn strong currently and will be forcing people to use 2H, if it doesn't get reverted, essentially killing build diversity for DW/DW, DW/Bow, Bow/Bow etc setups
I have no other problems with how NBs are atm.
I mentioned earlier my concerns about Hemorrhage being nerfed - Hemorrhage still grants +10% critical strike damage for you (on top of the new bonus), and Grim Focus is excellent for both magicka & stamina builds (gives +8% damage & a hard to get toggled ability that hits harder than Soul Harvest).
If you're a magicka NB, there are still combos you can use for high burst (they'll just be different combos than before).
I'd encourage you to take a close look at Mages Guild abilities
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olemanwinter✭✭✭✭✭Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »Are you using medium armor and a high stamina spec? if not dont expect stamina abilities to do any real damage. With MA and high stamina a sneak attack ambush hits harder than it did with a live magika build. Surprise attack hits even harder.
You cant split magika and stamina now. You have to go all one way or the other but you can still use utilities from your non spec.
Yes I am MA and stamina (now). And NO it doesn't hit harder.
Don't base it off of PvP. Too many variables.
Go into live, and target an NPC and record how much % damage you do by hitting them with Surprise Attack from stealth.
Then go into PTS and do the same.0 -
Aeratus✭✭✭✭✭So far, the only major difference I've noticed on my build is that sap tanking is no longer viable, at least in light armor. Everything else generally plays the same. Switching from ambush to lotus and surprise attack to concealed weapon could potentially have an impact, but at this moment, its too early to tell what the nuances in balance are.Edited by Aeratus on January 28, 2015 10:42PM1
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Pirhana7_ESO✭✭✭✭✭olemanwinter wrote: »Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »Are you using medium armor and a high stamina spec? if not dont expect stamina abilities to do any real damage. With MA and high stamina a sneak attack ambush hits harder than it did with a live magika build. Surprise attack hits even harder.
You cant split magika and stamina now. You have to go all one way or the other but you can still use utilities from your non spec.
Yes I am MA and stamina (now). And NO it doesn't hit harder.
Don't base it off of PvP. Too many variables.
Go into live, and target an NPC and record how much % damage you do by hitting them with Surprise Attack from stealth.
Then go into PTS and do the same.
You have to remember they beefed up everything besides those considered in Light Armor. You may be doing less damage now because of that, but it is still more damage than you would have done with the same skills in an old magika build0 -
Ysne58✭✭✭✭✭I did but since EU players dont get their char copied, I can't really try out all I would. NB melee magicka got huges nerfs, I've already explain why. Nobody can deny that.
Pst: If you want crazy damages go stam 2h, momentum+dawnbreaker give bonuses for your class skills. Ppl wont block with the new block cost. And you got 3* more armor (ok normal) ANd spell resist than Light armor (a non-sense). Just a tip. Something I wont do because Im not a fotm player.
EU will probably get to test next week. Devs have said that will happen with the next patch.
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Father✭✭✭The only nerf I see (for me), is veil of blades dmg reduction.
Everything else is a huge Buff.
Not sure if I wanna keep concealed wep or impale, need to say goodbye wrecking blow and welcome surprise attack / ambush sneak opener
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Stumkrav✭✭Did you guys really tried on pts?...
Ambush/surprise attack don't do the same burst damage, please stop saying that, it's not the true.
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pjwb16_ESO wrote: »Why you had to nerf us so much? Everything about us except maybe Bows was finde. Now we do really suck:
- Self AoE Heal gone, cant do PvP Tanking anymore
- Ambush Stamina Morph, badest thing ever, really destroys everything you could have done
- Veil Of Blades Duration and Mitigation Nerf, what the hell, u said you want to balance all Ultis around Standard of Might, but you nerf that?? -> Zeni logics...
- Fear time nerfed from 4.5s to 3s. Just rewards bad player that couldnt manage their ressources.
Please dont do this changes, they are crap and destroys my whole Nightblade.
Isnt it enough to nerf Light Armour, do you really have to **** on Nightblades.
Have a nice evening, I wont have it anymore...
people are going to have get over it. everyone is going to need new builds. start testing new things. you can tell by your lol nobody cares, roll with the punches.
They are whole system overhaul and the fotm builds are not the ruler. GOODEdited by dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO on January 28, 2015 11:02PM1 -
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Well there is no need to go PTS to see NB magicka melee got very sad nerfs. 2/3 skills we used now scales on stamina, so we cant use them at all (ambush maybe a bit, but no way to use surprise attack, we lost 40% armor reduction for stealth speed crap). We got some ninja passives nerfs, the pot one and the ulti one are now useless. The new haste seems pretty cool I have to agree, and I think to use it. The armor changes are not line they should be, medium armor wouldnt give 3*more spell resist than light.
This makes perfect sense now with all the crying threads. I'd be willing to wager many are from EU Players who are just reading the patch notes (since they don't yet have Char copy on PTS) and haven't actually tested the changes on PTS yet. I didn't even think about EU Players on the Forums. I'm not saying EU Players are bad, but if they are JUST reading the patch notes and haven't tested builds yet on PTS then complaining about this or that on the forums is wasting your time.I did but since EU players dont get their char copied, I can't really try out all I would. NB melee magicka got huges nerfs, I've already explain why. Nobody can deny that.
Pst: If you want crazy damages go stam 2h, momentum+dawnbreaker give bonuses for your class skills. Ppl wont block with the new block cost. And you got 3* more armor (ok normal) ANd spell resist than Light armor (a non-sense). Just a tip. Something I wont do because Im not a fotm player.
If they change lotus fan to a magicka ambush, and give more spell resist to LA than MA, I'm fine. But actually I can't be.
Btw I lvld those skills on PTS, and I really saw that my spec got nerfed. Huge nerf.Edited by Erondil on January 28, 2015 11:14PM~retired~
EU server, former Zerg Squad and Banana Squad officer
Dennegor NB AD, AvA 50 Grand Overlord 24/05/2016
rekt you NB AD, AvA 32
Erondil Sorc AD, AvA 23
Denne the Banana Slayer NB EP, AvA 14
Darth Dennegor lv50 Stamina NB DC, AvA 19
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Oh I must've missed it on PTS where Funnel Health/Swallow Soul was removed form NB's, and Refreshing Path must not actually be healing for ~300/tick on PTS like it says it does. I guess ZoS must've also ninja removed all Heals from the Resto Staff Tree last night too since you say Stamina NB's have no Heals. Don't forget the STAMINA only Heal Vigor in Assault. Sure it requires Assault Rank 10 but it's still a Stamina based Heal. NB's didn't even lose Sap Essence as a Heal, all ZoS did is add Spell Damage to it, it still gives Weapon Damage just like Live.pjwb16_ESO wrote: »NB gets destroyed... Stamina is crap when ur stamina is eaten in 5 seconds in PvP...
Also u have no heal if u use stamina
Nightblades is worst class after this patch once more
My disease glyph hits for 550 on PTS. Compare that to your 300 refreshing path ticks. Just saying...
Stamina NB actually is in a decent place if you can manage to up your regen rates. The problem, as always, is a total lack of damage shields in a world dominated by shield spamming. You can't spam a hot to stay alive.
Edited by Wahee on January 28, 2015 11:14PMMostly Harmless: PvP leader and officer
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light armor (cloth) should be the stealthiest. If you don't see what I'm talking about, tell me which one of these in-game armor logically looks the stealthiest?AlexDougherty wrote: »
Also, ninja isn't unarmored. To the contrary, ninja is that third armor (light armor) shown above.
Now I don't want to Burst your Bubble (Incoming butt hurt) But IRL (yes, in real life) I study the Martial arts of Ninjutsu (the arts of the Ninja), and I have been doing it for over 22 years (yes, 22 years, let that sink in for a sec and I can teach it) that uniform of the Ninja (light armored wearer on the right that you are harping about) in the above pic is your classic Hollywood Ninja appearance.. real Ninja did not wear armor like that and he actually looked more like the middle one (warriors garb) with a mask (from the one on the right) and a robe over the armor, if he needed to conceal the armor and his appearance (very rarely).
A Ninja would not walk around like that (black pajamas and a mask) in public or dress like that even during a Night time mission.
Most of the time Ninja looked like what they needed to look like to get the job done, most of the time that was a warrior like Bushi/Samurai, traveling priest, merchant, or acrobat, etc..
That Hollywood crap, with Ninja's wearing black Pajamas, you been swallowing from the appearance of Sho kosugi in the 80's and onward (like recently the Ninja Assassin Movie, which of course Sho Kosugi was in) was made up from the Kabuki theater hidden actors that dress in all black.
see LINK
So please don't start spouting information about Ninja when it is very apparent you have really no real clue about what you are really talking about.
If you want to look like a classic NINJA in Pajamas (in ESO) that's fine.. but make sure you realize that is not what real ninja really wore back in Japan.Signed, Kotaro Atani.PS5 NAVR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS5, and of course Master Thief. Currently 3600 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS5. Currently 810 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS5 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS5 except for maybe two-three Motifs. All Companions are Max level as are their Skills.Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade. Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home ! "I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.(All 18 characters are AD only! This one is a AD Loyalist)Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS5 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS5 is my dedicated Game Platform.Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past...""Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door...""A perfect society is always elsewhere..."- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs.8 -
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✭✭whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »
light armor (cloth) should be the stealthiest. If you don't see what I'm talking about, tell me which one of these in-game armor logically looks the stealthiest?AlexDougherty wrote: »
Also, ninja isn't unarmored. To the contrary, ninja is that third armor (light armor) shown above.
Now I don't want to Burst your Bubble (Incoming butt hurt) But IRL (yes, in real life) I study the Martial arts of Ninjutsu (the arts of the Ninja), and I have been doing it for over 22 years (yes, 22 years, let that sink in for a sec and I can teach it) that uniform of the Ninja (light armored wearer on the right that you are harping about) in the above pic is your classic Hollywood Ninja appearance.. real Ninja did not wear armor like that and he actually looked more like the middle one (warriors garb) with a mask (from the one on the right) and a robe over the armor, if he needed to conceal the armor and his appearance (very rarely).
A Ninja would not walk around like that (black pajamas and a mask) in public or dress like that even during a Night time mission.
Most of the time Ninja looked like what they needed to look like to get the job done, most of the time that was a warrior like Bushi/Samurai, traveling priest, merchant, or acrobat, etc..
That Hollywood crap, with Ninja's wearing black Pajamas, you been swallowing from the appearance of Sho kosugi in the 80's and onward (like recently the Ninja Assassin Movie, which of course Sho Kosugi was in) was made up from the Kabuki theater hidden actors that dress in all black.
see LINK
So please don't start spouting information about Ninja when it is very apparent you have really no real clue about what you are really talking about.
If you want to look like a classic NINJA in Pajamas (in ESO) that's fine.. but make sure you realize that is not what real ninja really wore back in Japan.
It's always amazing to me what I can start with a simple joke...
This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!6 -
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✭whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »
light armor (cloth) should be the stealthiest. If you don't see what I'm talking about, tell me which one of these in-game armor logically looks the stealthiest?AlexDougherty wrote: »
Also, ninja isn't unarmored. To the contrary, ninja is that third armor (light armor) shown above.
Now I don't want to Burst your Bubble (Incoming butt hurt) But IRL (yes, in real life) I study the Martial arts of Ninjutsu (the arts of the Ninja), and I have been doing it for over 22 years (yes, 22 years, let that sink in for a sec and I can teach it) that uniform of the Ninja (light armored wearer on the right that you are harping about) in the above pic is your classic Hollywood Ninja appearance.. real Ninja did not wear armor like that and he actually looked more like the middle one (warriors garb) with a mask (from the one on the right) and a robe over the armor, if he needed to conceal the armor and his appearance (very rarely).
A Ninja would not walk around like that (black pajamas and a mask) in public or dress like that even during a Night time mission.
Most of the time Ninja looked like what they needed to look like to get the job done, most of the time that was a warrior like Bushi/Samurai, traveling priest, merchant, or acrobat, etc..
That Hollywood crap, with Ninja's wearing black Pajamas, you been swallowing from the appearance of Sho kosugi in the 80's and onward (like recently the Ninja Assassin Movie, which of course Sho Kosugi was in) was made up from the Kabuki theater hidden actors that dress in all black.
see LINK
So please don't start spouting information about Ninja when it is very apparent you have really no real clue about what you are really talking about.
If you want to look like a classic NINJA in Pajamas (in ESO) that's fine.. but make sure you realize that is not what real ninja really wore back in Japan.
It's always amazing to me what I can start with a simple joke...
Yeah LOL it was meant more toward @Aeratus
Not toward you ShunraviSigned, Kotaro Atani.PS5 NAVR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS5, and of course Master Thief. Currently 3600 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS5. Currently 810 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS5 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS5 except for maybe two-three Motifs. All Companions are Max level as are their Skills.Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade. Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home ! "I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.(All 18 characters are AD only! This one is a AD Loyalist)Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS5 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS5 is my dedicated Game Platform.Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past...""Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door...""A perfect society is always elsewhere..."- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs.0 -
Draehl✭✭✭I expected the VoB nerf, and am a touch bothered as a caster NB overall, but we did have it coming. Where I am very disappointed, and I feel justifiably so is they didn't do anything more meaningful with Agony- IE completely rework it because no one uses it. We sure could use a nice fat long duration DoT...I've been begging for one since launch but Zenimax seems to prefer DD/AoE spam over giving us a single big DoT like every other MMO offers to at least a few classes...Edited by Draehl on January 29, 2015 1:21AMMain: Breton Nightblade "Shadow Cleric" (Sustained Damage/offhealer) 5L/2H - Resto + S&B
Alt: Argonian Dragonknight (Stam DoTs/Tank) 5H/2M - S&B + Bow
Alt: Nord Templar Berserker (Rawr) 5M/2H - Dual Wield + Two Hander
Alt: Altmer Sorceror (Pewpew) 7L - Destro + Resto2 -
Snippit_Thomas✭✭✭Why you had to nerf us so much? Everything about us except maybe Bows was finde. Now we do really suck:
- Self AoE Heal gone, cant do PvP Tanking anymore
Nope, still there.- Ambush Stamina Morph, badest thing ever, really destroys everything you could have done
How so? If you're a spellcaster using a gap closer that increases weapon damage, I think you need to reevaluate the way you build your characters. This is coming from someone who frequently enjoys mixing stamina and magicka abilities for damage purposes.- Veil Of Blades Duration and Mitigation Nerf, what the hell, u said you want to balance all Ultis around Standard of Might, but you nerf that?? -> Zeni logics...
We now significantly mitigate damage every time we cast a shadow ability, as opposed to whenever we leave stealth/invisibility. Dear lord, our mitigation is insane. Let the ultimate go.- Fear time nerfed from 4.5s to 3s. Just rewards bad player that couldnt manage their ressources.
And this hurts nothing if not barely anything at all. Just because it's a nerf doesn't mean it's a bad nerf.Please dont do this changes, they are crap and destroys my whole Nightblade.
Isnt it enough to nerf Light Armour, do you really have to **** on Nightblades.
Have a nice evening, I wont have it anymore...
Nightblades may be the most powerful class coming out of this patch. Then again, I barely paid attention to anything other than sorcerer and templar, but... well, holy crap, nightblades are good. Read it again.
From what I have seen on the changes to the Night Blade, "They" will be calling for a Nerf on the OP Night Blade who is able to dominate everywhere, A couple of small backwards steps on a couple of abilities but so many positive changes.0 -
Shuichi✭✭✭Yea the changes are definitely nice for 2h builds, especially if the new ambush and surprise attack scale on weapon damage.
Exactly, you claim stamina builds are fixed but you run a 2h build. As someone who wants to run dw/dw or dw/bow these changes have made it hard for me to survive basic attacks. I'm sure I'll find a build soon that works but it's not an easy task so far. Movement speed will be my best friend but I'm not sure if I need SA or Leeching Strikes to remain competitive.Hand of Sithis - Daggerfall Covenant0 -
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Well there is no need to go PTS to see NB magicka melee got very sad nerfs. 2/3 skills we used now scales on stamina, so we cant use them at all (ambush maybe a bit, but no way to use surprise attack, we lost 40% armor reduction for stealth speed crap). We got some ninja passives nerfs, the pot one and the ulti one are now useless. The new haste seems pretty cool I have to agree, and I think to use it. The armor changes are not line they should be, medium armor wouldnt give 3*more spell resist than light.
This makes perfect sense now with all the crying threads. I'd be willing to wager many are from EU Players who are just reading the patch notes (since they don't yet have Char copy on PTS) and haven't actually tested the changes on PTS yet. I didn't even think about EU Players on the Forums. I'm not saying EU Players are bad, but if they are JUST reading the patch notes and haven't tested builds yet on PTS then complaining about this or that on the forums is wasting your time.I did but since EU players dont get their char copied, I can't really try out all I would. NB melee magicka got huges nerfs, I've already explain why. Nobody can deny that.
Pst: If you want crazy damages go stam 2h, momentum+dawnbreaker give bonuses for your class skills. Ppl wont block with the new block cost. And you got 3* more armor (ok normal) ANd spell resist than Light armor (a non-sense). Just a tip. Something I wont do because Im not a fotm player.
If they change lotus fan to a magicka ambush, and give more spell resist to LA than MA, I'm fine. But actually I can't be.
Btw I lvld those skills on PTS, and I really saw that my spec got nerfed. Huge nerf.
I had a longer response ready and for seeking clarification, but I read Ambush + Surprise Attacks + Dodge = 0 stamina and no need to go to the 1.6 PTS. We were even told earlier by one of you that Sap Essence lost its heal.
None of us can persuade you if you're speculating from patch notes and not reacting from 1.6 PTS experience.0 -
Kerioko✭✭✭✭NB 41K burst dps, sustain is about 10-15K running bow and two-handed with buffs from rally, evil hunter, reapers mark & grim focus
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