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Nice job but too late?
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Nice job on the patch notes, it's clear you have been working on these for months.
Shame you released them after going B2P as these fixes alone would have gone a long way to bringing the populous back on side.
If B2P was never mentioned then i'd go as far as to say a LOT of people would be very happy right now.
You did go F2P thou, so is this a case of 'so close but no cigar' ?
Shame you released them after going B2P as these fixes alone would have gone a long way to bringing the populous back on side.
If B2P was never mentioned then i'd go as far as to say a LOT of people would be very happy right now.
You did go F2P thou, so is this a case of 'so close but no cigar' ?
Being First is not the prize, it just mean's everyone can stab you in the back.
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Sindala✭✭✭✭✭clocksstoppe wrote: »And the point of this thread is?
The 'point' I was making (I thought was plainly obvious but apparently I need to speak slower) is if they had published these notes BEFORE announcing F2P then they would probably had far less [snip] backlash.
But they didn't.
Just show's how clueless they are at planning over there.
As with ALL business, it's all about the timing.
So now we have seen the notes have you forgiven Zenimax and jumped back into bed with them or will you stay quit like most of the posts over the last few days have been saying.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on January 27, 2015 6:29PMBeing First is not the prize, it just mean's everyone can stab you in the back.2 -
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VirtualElizabeth✭✭✭✭Yeah, what you talkin' bout Willis?
Which patch notes are you referring to? The last patch notes I see were from January 12th???Edited by VirtualElizabeth on January 27, 2015 5:45PM@ElizabethInTamriel; @ElizabethInESO
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Sindala✭✭✭✭✭Lol, well since it's a patch on the PTS I guess a good place to start looking for them would have been the PTS forum.....do I have to start using big letters too?
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Hrafnar✭✭Shame you released them after going B2P as these fixes alone would have gone a long way to bringing the populous back on side.
I think the reason changing their businessmodel has to do with primarily the upcoming console release, not with low subscription numbers.
What pisses me off is that they denied this change so much, so hard, that it feels like a betrayal to me as a paying customer. This was not suppose to happen.
So I think this thread has little real purpose. Even thou I am as dissapointed as one can get on Zeni...
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VirtualElizabeth✭✭✭✭Lol, well since it's a patch on the PTS I guess a good place to start looking for them would have been the PTS forum.....do I have to start using big letters too?
No, you need to be more clear when stating your argument - succinct and to the point helps. For example, if you had originally stated "Nice job on the PTS patch notes, it's clear you have been working on these for months." The majority of responders would have understood what you are referring to. Instead you get defense and insinuate stupidity instead of clarifying what you meant.
Might I suggest a response such as this for you to digest:
"Let me clarify because I can see many are not understanding what I am referring too. The patch notes in question are on the PTS server."
Edited by VirtualElizabeth on January 27, 2015 5:57PM@ElizabethInTamriel; @ElizabethInESO
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Sindala✭✭✭✭✭VirtualElizabeth wrote: »Lol, well since it's a patch on the PTS I guess a good place to start looking for them would have been the PTS forum.....do I have to start using big letters too?
No, you need to be more clear when stating your argument - succinct and to the point helps. For example, if you had originally stated "Nice job on the PTS patch notes, it's clear you have been working on these for months." The majority of responders would have understood what you are referring to. Instead you get defense and insinuate stupidity instead of clarifying what you meant.
Might I suggest a response such as this for you to digest:
"Let me clarify because I can see many are not understanding what I am referring too. The patch notes in question are on the PTS server."
Have you not been reading the forums for the last few weeks? How you cannot know what I was on about is staggering. The only 2 topics have been 1 - Zos I hate you now B2P and 2 - where are the 1.6 patch notes. lol.Being First is not the prize, it just mean's everyone can stab you in the back.0 -
Sindala✭✭✭✭✭renton1x1x1 wrote: »too late for what?
too late ? meaning if you quit because of F2P, do the patch notes give you hope to re-sub or not ect...Being First is not the prize, it just mean's everyone can stab you in the back.0 -
Xelphos✭✭✭Nice job on the patch notes, it's clear you have been working on these for months.
Shame you released them after going B2P as these fixes alone would have gone a long way to bringing the populous back on side.
If B2P was never mentioned then i'd go as far as to say a LOT of people would be very happy right now.
You did go F2P thou, so is this a case of 'so close but no cigar' ?
No, this patch would not have made me, or anyone I know re-sub.
The news that ESO was going B2P made me and a lot of people I know re-sub, and many more purchase the game. I think Zen made a ton of money with the announcement of B2P, and to be honest I think it is better this way, it should have been B2P from the start like they were originally planning. B2P will also be good for PvP as the population will shoot up with new comers and previous subscribers who had cancelled.Edited by Xelphos on January 27, 2015 6:03PM1 -
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To inform us that Sindala doesn't like B2P.clocksstoppe wrote: »And the point of this thread is?
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VirtualElizabeth✭✭✭✭To answer your question - Yes I read the forums but your argument was vague. Sorry, that is my opinion.
But whatev, carry on.....
Edited by VirtualElizabeth on January 27, 2015 6:16PM@ElizabethInTamriel; @ElizabethInESO
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Kraven✭✭✭✭✭renton1x1x1 wrote: »too late for what?
too late ? meaning if you quit because of F2P, do the patch notes give you hope to re-sub or not ect...
Not. I was already looking forward to 1.6 and all the changes it entailed, even without knowing the details. However they're not enough to bring me back. My sub will stay cancelled. I may revisit it when F2P kicks in, and yes for the nay sayers B2P does = F2P, it's just F2P with an initial pay gate. You should get use to pay gates now rather than later.
I MAY revisit when F2P hits but it's not very likely.
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