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Ok Zenimax, what are we supposed to do now...?
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Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭Losing paid subscribers in order to gain newcomers who have no intention of spending any money whatsoever on the game (beyond the initial game cost) is a questionable plan at best.
In no way, shape or form will this benefit "the community" you speak of. In fact, it will be it's downfall. Logon to the forums for any F2P/B2P MMO, or glance at the in-game chat in said MMOs, and you'll see that the dregs of gaming flourish.
I do believe I mentioned it was my first impression @Aevric; And I still believe that given a chance the change from Pay to Play to Buy to Play can be advantageous. Even if many of us, no, even if you canceled your subscription, would you stop playing? Even though the game is free? No, you'd still come online even if just to hang out with your friends and do some dungeons and trials.
And when new content is released, wouldn't you then buy it? It is not likely to be terribly expensive, so why wouldn't you? See? With this new model Zenimax allows you to be as casual or as invested as you want to be in the game. Not saying the model is perfect! Just saying that this will likely bring old players back to the game and new ones as well.0 -
Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭Consoles will have their own separate megaserver, they will not play on the same servers as the PC Master Race. Save for those who make good of the offer to transfer their account, they will not face "heaps of veteran-Level characters". If anything, this will be a lot bigger problem for newcomers playing on PC...
You think the content of Tamriel Unlimited Pc version and Console Version will be different? Why would they do that?
If Zenimax has a solution, a conversion that allows them to fully remove the veteran system, why would they not apply it to all versions of the game? No, if they release one version with leftovers of the Vet Ranks, all version will have the same flaw.0 -
Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭This post scared me a bit, but I totally agree. On a side note, I did also notice Paul Sages facial expressions and movements during Eso Live, which scared me the most. If he's losing faith, Eso is in for some trouble.
Paul Sages expression both concerns and saddens me. He seemed defeated during the ESO Live, though it is possible he was simply very tired - This conversion to Buy to Play has been on the table for months, since they started working on the concept for the new progression system, Of that I am almost sure.
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Csub✭✭✭✭✭With the vet level still in place for consoles, they can sell more xp.boosts from the shop, dont forget that!"The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn0 -
AngryNord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Consoles will have their own separate megaserver, they will not play on the same servers as the PC Master Race. Save for those who make good of the offer to transfer their account, they will not face "heaps of veteran-Level characters". If anything, this will be a lot bigger problem for newcomers playing on PC...
You think the content of Tamriel Unlimited Pc version and Console Version will be different? Why would they do that?
Uuh? No?
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Gyudan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭With this new model Zenimax allows you to be as casual or as invested as you want to be in the game.
The most advanced players have already completed all the content in the game. They fought through all the dungeons/arena, all the trials (with hardmode) and all the quests. They caught all the rare fish, found all the collectibles, cleared all the caves of bosses and skyshards. They destroyed hundreds of dark anchors and the associated generals. They chased M'aiq the Liar, lit campfires, intimidated merchants and bought drinks to the Undaunted.
Those players will have nothing new to do for the next 6-12 months and as fun as the game is, they'll get bored eventually. I don't think that it's possible to be "as invested as you want to be in the game" anymore. :'(Wololo.2 -
Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭With this new model Zenimax allows you to be as casual or as invested as you want to be in the game.
The most advanced players have already completed all the content in the game. They fought through all the dungeons/arena, all the trials (with hardmode) and all the quests. They caught all the rare fish, found all the collectibles, cleared all the caves of bosses and skyshards. They destroyed hundreds of dark anchors and the associated generals. They chased M'aiq the Liar, lit campfires, intimidated merchants and bought drinks to the Undaunted.
Those players will have nothing new to do for the next 6-12 months and as fun as the game is, they'll get bored eventually. I don't think that it's possible to be "as invested as you want to be in the game" anymore. :'(
Agreed.
I said the Buy-to-Play model would allow us to be as invested as we wanted, not the content. The whole point of this post is to call the community's attention to the lack there of and get an answer from Zenimax as to when we can expect new content and what will it be.
Saying that they are not prepared to answer just isn't enough right now. Well, it was never enough, but this answer is getting more infuriating with every passing day.0