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Ok Zenimax, what are we supposed to do now...?

  • bosmern_ESO
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    2) yes, 1.6 is going to be the last major update before console launch, for obvious reasons. We will continue to do interim updates as necessary. As Paul said in another thread on this AMA, we're now developing for 4 platforms at once, and it is inherently more complex. We're committed to having content hit all the platforms at roughly the same time, so it will necessarily slow things down a bit.

    -> So, what does this means? 1.6 has no new playable content other then the quests of the incomplete Justice System. There are no new Dungeons, Trials, Adventure Zones; essentially 1.6 is a utilitarian patch with changes to previous content.
    That wouldn't be a huge issue if we were to have a new patch in the next couple of months. ZoS said that Imperial City was pretty much completed and while it wouldn't be released with 1.6, that it would be coming soon. Am I the only one that doesn't consider end of June or even July as soon?
    So, that is the question I have for ZoS. What are we supposed to do now in your game? New mounts are cool, but they are not so great if we have no where to go with them! And then to add salt to wound, comes @ZOS_MattFiror next slip of tongue.

    Who knows how altered the abilities will be, from what I heard every ability will be completely different. People are going to be spending countless hours theorycrafting finding the best DPS, tanks, healing builds for dungeons/trials/small scale pvp/large scale pvp.

    We will have the same content but everything will be different.
    ~Thallen~
  • Kevinmon
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    Amen to this post.
  • Jennifur_Vultee
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    You are supposed to spend your $15/month on pink horses and silly hats.

    I'll never join you on the dark side buying pink ponies and silly hats! I'm taking the high road and waiting for the skimpy Lusty Argonian Maid costume!

    "Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters." – Albert Einstein

    Treat a customer fairly and they will remember you. Treat a customer poorly and they never forget.

    Imperial City: Zerg, gank or die.
  • Iago
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    Grao wrote: »
    When I first heard about the changes to Pay to Play, I wasn't all that surprised or worried. I actually think those changes will contribute to ESO's health by adding more players to the community. So for that, I commend you ZoS - At the end of the day I think this transition, coupled with the new progression (Champion System), is a good idea.

    The problem, at least for me, arouse after reading some of the responses given during the Q&A on Tamriel Unlimited.

    From ZOS_MattF:

    1) We are not going to keep up our 2014 pace of updates in 2015 - and our future update pace will focus more on new adventures and game experiences than system changes. It's time to let the game breathe a little - we've done so many new features so quickly that we want to make sure everyone is on the same page with us. 1.6 alone has a complete rebalancing of most player abilities - we don't want to do that again, for example. Our #1 priority right now is getting Tamriel Unlimited launched on PC, and then focusing on a successful console launch. While we do those things, we have other teams already working on DLC and expect to see that start rolling out at some point after console launch settles down.

    -> This was expected already and it is understandable. The problem is what @ZOS_MattFiror said next.

    2) yes, 1.6 is going to be the last major update before console launch, for obvious reasons. We will continue to do interim updates as necessary. As Paul said in another thread on this AMA, we're now developing for 4 platforms at once, and it is inherently more complex. We're committed to having content hit all the platforms at roughly the same time, so it will necessarily slow things down a bit.

    -> So, what does this means? 1.6 has no new playable content other then the quests of the incomplete Justice System. There are no new Dungeons, Trials, Adventure Zones; essentially 1.6 is a utilitarian patch with changes to previous content.
    That wouldn't be a huge issue if we were to have a new patch in the next couple of months. ZoS said that Imperial City was pretty much completed and while it wouldn't be released with 1.6, that it would be coming soon. Am I the only one that doesn't consider end of June or even July as soon?
    So, that is the question I have for ZoS. What are we supposed to do now in your game? New mounts are cool, but they are not so great if we have no where to go with them! And then to add salt to wound, comes @ZOS_MattFiror next slip of tongue.

    3) This remains to be determined - I've been pretty clear that PvP justice is pretty scary from a game balance perspective, and we need to be very careful how we implement it. If/when it makes it in to the game, it will not be as part of a paid DLC.

    -> Really?!? After all we heard about the Justice System as the big update to PvP... You say it may never come?

    So... If I understand correctly for the next couple of months we can expect... Nothing from ESO? No new PvE content, no new PvP content (shouldn't surprise me since ZoS hasn't released anything PvP related since the game first came out, and yet... It does surprise me)... What are we supposed to do for the next 6 months of this game Zenimax?

    I know you are making the game buy to play, but I assume you actually want players to keep their subscription. Well, I am willing to, but I need to have a game to play! I mean, there are only so many times I can crush the mage, the warrior, etc, with my guildies! Now, I understand that you will all be very busy with the console release, but that can't justify completely abandoning the community of players you already have formed.

    So... Here goes again, what are we supposed to for the next several months? We won't take that long to relearn our classes and there are only so many alts we can level.

    On a side note, how is 1.6 the last large patch you will release until console is out? Are you really planning to re-release your game with the remains of the failed veteran system still in it? Really? You really want to annoy the console community by having them level to veteran rank 14 just to lose those levels?




    If ZOS Went buy. to play To attract to do subscribers They may have shot themselves in the foot.



    People who buy the game for console To play for the very first time Are going to see a world filled with vent level characters

    This will make them burn through content as fast as they can to level

    Then we'll get to the very slow grind that is the vet ranks. They will look for a place to grind And soon realize that there aren't any viable spots to be found. They will get discouraged and bored

    And by the time zos Gets around to new DLC There is a good chance That many of their new subscribers Will have moved on Because they're tired of waiting.
    That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.

    -Thomas Pain

  • NadiusMaximus
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    I don't think it will be in June.
    I've never seen a PC to console release go smooth, and this one is handicapped already. 1.7? I'm saying Mid August before we see anything.
    Wrothgar, next year around this time.
  • Iago
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    I don't think it will be in June.
    I've never seen a PC to console release go smooth, and this one is handicapped already. 1.7? I'm saying Mid August before we see anything.
    Wrothgar, next year around this time.

    Exactly And that's if those timelines don't get pushed back themselves
    That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.

    -Thomas Pain

  • Sylvyr
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    Cyrodiil fixes are supposed to be coming in 1.6.
    Badge: Wall-of-Text GRANDMASTER

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    ZoSence (n.):
    1) What is reasonable or comprehensive using ZoS logic. "That makes ZoSense"
    2) Making zero sense. "That makes ZoSense"
  • Iago
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    Sylvyr wrote: »
    Cyrodiil fixes are supposed to be coming in 1.6.

    I hope they show up. Even with those go You're still going to have brand new players Coming up against players that are maxed out on day one And they're not going to like that.

    They will start demanding experience boosters So they can catch up.
    When will discover the slow grind of the vet ranks And they're going to want better experience boosters
    That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.

    -Thomas Pain

  • Nova Sky
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    Enough of this nonsense!

    We have to:

    Download the PTS and test 1.6.

    Continue grinding, questing and PvPing to provide ZoS with the information they need to balance activities with XP and CP generation.

    Continue working on debugging the game.

    Everything needs to be fixed in time for the console release, so stop complaining and get back to work!

    Oh, and we need to carry on paying our subs so that ZoS doesn't have any cashflow problems before they can release the console game...

    Saturdays are mandatory work days, too!

    "Wheresoever you go, go with all of your heart."
  • Jennifur_Vultee
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    Iago wrote: »
    Sylvyr wrote: »
    Cyrodiil fixes are supposed to be coming in 1.6.

    I hope they show up. Even with those go You're still going to have brand new players Coming up against players that are maxed out on day one And they're not going to like that.

    They will start demanding experience boosters So they can catch up.
    When will discover the slow grind of the vet ranks And they're going to want better experience boosters

    Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't they been saying they'd fix Cryrodiil for like six months now?

    Edited by Jennifur_Vultee on January 25, 2015 7:16AM
    "Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters." – Albert Einstein

    Treat a customer fairly and they will remember you. Treat a customer poorly and they never forget.

    Imperial City: Zerg, gank or die.
  • Sylvyr
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    Iago wrote: »
    Sylvyr wrote: »
    Cyrodiil fixes are supposed to be coming in 1.6.

    I hope they show up. Even with those go You're still going to have brand new players Coming up against players that are maxed out on day one And they're not going to like that.

    They will start demanding experience boosters So they can catch up.
    When will discover the slow grind of the vet ranks And they're going to want better experience boosters

    Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't they been saying they'd fix Cryrodiil for like six months now?

    Well, yeah...

    But this time it's for realzies.

    Badge: Wall-of-Text GRANDMASTER

    PvP: Patch Vs. Player

    ZoSence (n.):
    1) What is reasonable or comprehensive using ZoS logic. "That makes ZoSense"
    2) Making zero sense. "That makes ZoSense"
  • Guppet
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    Iago wrote: »
    Sylvyr wrote: »
    Cyrodiil fixes are supposed to be coming in 1.6.

    I hope they show up. Even with those go You're still going to have brand new players Coming up against players that are maxed out on day one And they're not going to like that.

    They will start demanding experience boosters So they can catch up.
    When will discover the slow grind of the vet ranks And they're going to want better experience boosters

    Where are they going to be going up against max level characters? It won't be in PVP, due to those max level Characters being in their own Cryadill campaign (a very empty campaign, till the masses catch up).

    Also VET ranks won't make it to console.
    Edited by Guppet on January 25, 2015 8:04AM
  • Iago
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    Guppet wrote: »
    Iago wrote: »
    Sylvyr wrote: »
    Cyrodiil fixes are supposed to be coming in 1.6.

    I hope they show up. Even with those go You're still going to have brand new players Coming up against players that are maxed out on day one And they're not going to like that.

    They will start demanding experience boosters So they can catch up.
    When will discover the slow grind of the vet ranks And they're going to want better experience boosters

    Where are they going to be going up against max level characters? It won't be in PVP, due to those max level Characters being in their own Cryadill campaign (a very empty campaign, till the masses catch up).

    Also VET ranks won't make it to console.

    Vet ranks Are not being removed until 1.7 The console release happens with 1.6 Since 1.7 Comes after 1.6 chronologically It is safe to assume That vet ranks Will indeed make it to consoles.
    That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.

    -Thomas Pain

  • Guppet
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    Iago wrote: »
    Guppet wrote: »
    Iago wrote: »
    Sylvyr wrote: »
    Cyrodiil fixes are supposed to be coming in 1.6.

    I hope they show up. Even with those go You're still going to have brand new players Coming up against players that are maxed out on day one And they're not going to like that.

    They will start demanding experience boosters So they can catch up.
    When will discover the slow grind of the vet ranks And they're going to want better experience boosters

    Where are they going to be going up against max level characters? It won't be in PVP, due to those max level Characters being in their own Cryadill campaign (a very empty campaign, till the masses catch up).

    Also VET ranks won't make it to console.

    Vet ranks Are not being removed until 1.7 The console release happens with 1.6 Since 1.7 Comes after 1.6 chronologically It is safe to assume That vet ranks Will indeed make it to consoles.

    You might just want to reasses what happens when. They could very well remove VET ranks in an incremental patch before console release. I also would not expect 1.7 to ever happen. When the game relaunches they will quite likely change the oatch numbers.

    You honestly think they will leave VET levels in just because they once said they would come out in 1.7? I think if they have taught us anything lately, it's to not take them at their word.

    VET levels were an utter failure, why would they leave them in place when they launch to their target audience?

    Heck, I would not be surprised if they were removed in 1.6!
    Edited by Guppet on January 25, 2015 8:13AM
  • Iago
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    Guppet wrote: »
    Iago wrote: »
    Guppet wrote: »
    Iago wrote: »
    Sylvyr wrote: »
    Cyrodiil fixes are supposed to be coming in 1.6.

    I hope they show up. Even with those go You're still going to have brand new players Coming up against players that are maxed out on day one And they're not going to like that.

    They will start demanding experience boosters So they can catch up.
    When will discover the slow grind of the vet ranks And they're going to want better experience boosters

    Where are they going to be going up against max level characters? It won't be in PVP, due to those max level Characters being in their own Cryadill campaign (a very empty campaign, till the masses catch up).

    Also VET ranks won't make it to console.

    Vet ranks Are not being removed until 1.7 The console release happens with 1.6 Since 1.7 Comes after 1.6 chronologically It is safe to assume That vet ranks Will indeed make it to consoles.

    You might just want to reasses what happens when. They could very well remove VET ranks in an incremental patch before console release. I also would not expect 1.7 to ever happen. When the game relaunches they will quite likely change the oatch numbers.

    You honestly think they will leave VET levels in just because they once said they would come out in 1.7? I think if they have taught us anything lately, it's to not take them at their word.

    VET levels were an utter failure, why would they leave them in place when they launch to their target audience?

    The most likely do it Because they have bitten off way more than they can chew They have a hard time maintaining the game on two platforms How well do you suspect they're going to keep up with patching And taking care of for platforms?


    And no I don't believe everything they say Zos Has proven themselves To be dishonest So does that range may disappear before 1.7 However they have been able to stick to their word in some cases Meaning it might be 1.7 before the vet rank are removed
    That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.

    -Thomas Pain

  • felinith66
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    They "currently have no plans" to answer your questions :neutral_face:

    I think this is an awesome answer if you don't want to commit to something. I'm gonna start using it in RL :smiley:
  • frosth.darkomenb16_ESO
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    Well, what did you expect?
    This is what happens when games switch to b2p/f2p.
  • DDuke
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    lathbury wrote: »
    cancel sub and play something else till november

    ...and then notice that every robot who managed to stay & grind the same content for a year has 20x more Champion Points than you.

    This is a non-solution for many.
    Edited by DDuke on January 25, 2015 12:25PM
  • Grao
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    lathbury wrote: »
    cancel sub and play something else till november

    We really don't want to cancel our subscription though, we enjoy the game and we want it to survive. Unfortunately going over the same content for months without any prediction of what new content will be released or when it will be released is not fun at all. Right now our characters that are maxed have no way to further progress.
    technohic wrote: »
    Grind champion points. Really starting to look like it was not meant to really eliminate VR ranks but rather just give us a constant progression model without the content that has come with the 2 new VR ranks every few months.

    Yes, we can farm for champion points, but we have no more story to go through and at least for me, the story is very important. The feel my character is growing as it adventures.

    Grinding is not adventuring!

    2) yes, 1.6 is going to be the last major update before console launch, for obvious reasons. We will continue to do interim updates as necessary. As Paul said in another thread on this AMA, we're now developing for 4 platforms at once, and it is inherently more complex. We're committed to having content hit all the platforms at roughly the same time, so it will necessarily slow things down a bit.

    -> So, what does this means? 1.6 has no new playable content other then the quests of the incomplete Justice System. There are no new Dungeons, Trials, Adventure Zones; essentially 1.6 is a utilitarian patch with changes to previous content.
    That wouldn't be a huge issue if we were to have a new patch in the next couple of months. ZoS said that Imperial City was pretty much completed and while it wouldn't be released with 1.6, that it would be coming soon. Am I the only one that doesn't consider end of June or even July as soon?
    So, that is the question I have for ZoS. What are we supposed to do now in your game? New mounts are cool, but they are not so great if we have no where to go with them! And then to add salt to wound, comes @ZOS_MattFiror next slip of tongue.

    Who knows how altered the abilities will be, from what I heard every ability will be completely different. People are going to be spending countless hours theorycrafting finding the best DPS, tanks, healing builds for dungeons/trials/small scale pvp/large scale pvp.

    We will have the same content but everything will be different.

    All the theorycrafting will be done before 1.6 gets out of the PTS. I have at least 30 guildies ready to go into the PTS with enough mats in the bank to test every crafted set combination for performance, all of them with enough skill point to unlock multiple weapons, armor and useful class skills.

    So, yes, we will all have to spend sometime relearning our classes, but that doesn't change the content, just how you go through it. And it won't take that long for everyone to find their way around new skills.
    Iago wrote: »
    Grao wrote: »
    When I first heard about the changes to Pay to Play, I wasn't all that surprised or worried. I actually think those changes will contribute to ESO's health by adding more players to the community. So for that, I commend you ZoS - At the end of the day I think this transition, coupled with the new progression (Champion System), is a good idea.

    The problem, at least for me, arouse after reading some of the responses given during the Q&A on Tamriel Unlimited.

    From ZOS_MattF:

    1) We are not going to keep up our 2014 pace of updates in 2015 - and our future update pace will focus more on new adventures and game experiences than system changes. It's time to let the game breathe a little - we've done so many new features so quickly that we want to make sure everyone is on the same page with us. 1.6 alone has a complete rebalancing of most player abilities - we don't want to do that again, for example. Our #1 priority right now is getting Tamriel Unlimited launched on PC, and then focusing on a successful console launch. While we do those things, we have other teams already working on DLC and expect to see that start rolling out at some point after console launch settles down.

    -> This was expected already and it is understandable. The problem is what @ZOS_MattFiror said next.

    2) yes, 1.6 is going to be the last major update before console launch, for obvious reasons. We will continue to do interim updates as necessary. As Paul said in another thread on this AMA, we're now developing for 4 platforms at once, and it is inherently more complex. We're committed to having content hit all the platforms at roughly the same time, so it will necessarily slow things down a bit.

    -> So, what does this means? 1.6 has no new playable content other then the quests of the incomplete Justice System. There are no new Dungeons, Trials, Adventure Zones; essentially 1.6 is a utilitarian patch with changes to previous content.
    That wouldn't be a huge issue if we were to have a new patch in the next couple of months. ZoS said that Imperial City was pretty much completed and while it wouldn't be released with 1.6, that it would be coming soon. Am I the only one that doesn't consider end of June or even July as soon?
    So, that is the question I have for ZoS. What are we supposed to do now in your game? New mounts are cool, but they are not so great if we have no where to go with them! And then to add salt to wound, comes @ZOS_MattFiror next slip of tongue.

    3) This remains to be determined - I've been pretty clear that PvP justice is pretty scary from a game balance perspective, and we need to be very careful how we implement it. If/when it makes it in to the game, it will not be as part of a paid DLC.

    -> Really?!? After all we heard about the Justice System as the big update to PvP... You say it may never come?

    So... If I understand correctly for the next couple of months we can expect... Nothing from ESO? No new PvE content, no new PvP content (shouldn't surprise me since ZoS hasn't released anything PvP related since the game first came out, and yet... It does surprise me)... What are we supposed to do for the next 6 months of this game Zenimax?

    I know you are making the game buy to play, but I assume you actually want players to keep their subscription. Well, I am willing to, but I need to have a game to play! I mean, there are only so many times I can crush the mage, the warrior, etc, with my guildies! Now, I understand that you will all be very busy with the console release, but that can't justify completely abandoning the community of players you already have formed.

    So... Here goes again, what are we supposed to for the next several months? We won't take that long to relearn our classes and there are only so many alts we can level.

    On a side note, how is 1.6 the last large patch you will release until console is out? Are you really planning to re-release your game with the remains of the failed veteran system still in it? Really? You really want to annoy the console community by having them level to veteran rank 14 just to lose those levels?




    If ZOS Went buy. to play To attract to do subscribers They may have shot themselves in the foot.



    People who buy the game for console To play for the very first time Are going to see a world filled with vent level characters

    This will make them burn through content as fast as they can to level

    Then we'll get to the very slow grind that is the vet ranks. They will look for a place to grind And soon realize that there aren't any viable spots to be found. They will get discouraged and bored

    And by the time zos Gets around to new DLC There is a good chance That many of their new subscribers Will have moved on Because they're tired of waiting.

    I really don't see Zenimax releasing Tamriel Unlimited with the veteran system still in place. It would be just too stupid. I have to believe there will be an incremental patch as @Guppet suggested. It will have to be a huge patch though as it affects all professions, Cadwell Silver and Gold, several achievements, all of Cragnlorn, all the Trials, Veteran Dungeons, Undaunted...
    Edited by Grao on January 25, 2015 1:08PM
  • Iago
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    Grao wrote: »
    I really don't see Zenimax releasing Tamriel Unlimited with the veteran system still in place. It would be just too stupid. I have to believe there will be an incremental patch as @Guppet suggested. It will have to be a huge patch though as it affects all professions, Cadwell Silver and Gold, several achievements, all of Cragnlorn, all the Trials, Veteran Dungeons, Undaunted...

    Look as untrustworthy as I find ZOS's word, when they said Vet Ranks will be removed in 1.7 we still must assume that's the plan. That being said you're right they should be removed before console release but who knows they may wait until 1.8 or 1.9 before it happens. Especially since they will have to handle 4 platforms instead of two.... They have a hard time taking care of the Mac/PC bugs the beta bugs that still exist in game verify that and I don't expect having to fix them on all 4 systems will help speed up needed changes.


    So expect the Vet Ranks to be removed by 1.6 all you want but keep in mind their goal is 1.7
    That which we obtain to cheap we esteem to lightly, it is dearness only that gives everything its value.

    -Thomas Pain

  • Locke_ESO
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    If there really is a 4+ month gap after 1.6 then really there is no reason to purchase a membership or give them any money for store items imo. Paying membership in this period will just be like crowd funding their DLC development (unless you think X amount for 10% xp/gold is worth it). Craglorn came out in May 2014 and it was great but that was over 8 months ago. There is a real lack of any new content to keep people interested. As a recently returned player after a 6 month break I do find it disappointing that nothing new has really been added apart the 2 veteran dungeons and Upper Craglorn.
    Edited by Locke_ESO on January 26, 2015 2:53AM
  • Cody
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    The only thing I was upset about, is the fact the PVP part of the justice system wont be in with 1.6, and based on matts response, could very well never be.

    I was looking forward to the PvP aspect of the justice system; its one of the things keeping me going, but now I, I'm sorry, WE, may never even get it. Ill do the PvE portion for as long as it entertains me, but it wont keep me forever.
  • ashlee17
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    Enough of this nonsense!

    We have to:

    Download the PTS and test 1.6.

    Continue grinding, questing and PvPing to provide ZoS with the information they need to balance activities with XP and CP generation.

    Continue working on debugging the game.

    Everything needs to be fixed in time for the console release, so stop complaining and get back to work!

    Oh, and we need to carry on paying our subs so that ZoS doesn't have any cashflow problems before they can release the console game...

    Seems so...

  • trimsic_ESO
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    If 1.6 is not as good as people expect it to be, they will cancel their sub.

    1.6 is supposed to fix the combat system, add build diversity, balance classes, and add a continuous progression system to the game. I.e. 1.6 is supposed to fix most of the design flaws at the origin of the reasons why the game was not as successful as it could have been. 1.6 is clearly what has to be done to the game to make it attractive again, and I expected other initiatives in that direction (such as adding epic new gear to the game in PVE and in PVP, token based crafting, a season system, i.e. everything that rewards people for playing the game).

    So if 1.6 fails, and since there will not be any other major updates to fix the core mechanics of the game, why should we stay subscribed?
  • Grao
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    If 1.6 is not as good as people expect it to be, they will cancel their sub.

    1.6 is supposed to fix the combat system, add build diversity, balance classes, and add a continuous progression system to the game. I.e. 1.6 is supposed to fix most of the design flaws at the origin of the reasons why the game was not as successful as it could have been. 1.6 is clearly what has to be done to the game to make it attractive again, and I expected other initiatives in that direction (such as adding epic new gear to the game in PVE and in PVP, token based crafting, a season system, i.e. everything that rewards people for playing the game).

    So if 1.6 fails, and since there will not be any other major updates to fix the core mechanics of the game, why should we stay subscribed?

    1.6 is fated to be a disappointment because people are expecting too much of it. 1.6 is a system update, it brings nearly nothing new to the table other then a few skills and an incomplete Justice System that may never see its PvP part.

    Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. The Champion System has everything needed to be a success, but only if it is fully implemented and a huge part of that implementation is the removal of the Veteran System. If that does not come with the release of Tamriel Unlimited or with the release of the game on consoles it will be a disaster.

    As for the PC community, how are we supposed to entertain our selves with a game that will have no additional content what so ever for the next 6 months or so?
    Edited by Grao on January 26, 2015 6:52AM
  • Aevric
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    "When I first heard about the changes to Pay to Play, I wasn't all that surprised or worried. I actually think those changes will contribute to ESO's health by adding more players to the community. So for that, I commend you ZoS - At the end of the day I think this transition, coupled with the new progression (Champion System), is a good idea."

    Losing paid subscribers in order to gain newcomers who have no intention of spending any money whatsoever on the game (beyond the initial game cost) is a questionable plan at best.
    In no way, shape or form will this benefit "the community" you speak of. In fact, it will be it's downfall. Logon to the forums for any F2P/B2P MMO, or glance at the in-game chat in said MMOs, and you'll see that the dregs of gaming flourish.
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    Grao wrote: »
    Faulgor wrote: »
    What does #1 mean for spellcrafting? I've been waiting for it since it was announced and it sounds like they aren't even bothering with it anymore.

    Or how about necromancy? It hasn't been announced but it's something I was hoping they'd develop in the near future.

    They are still working on Spellcrafting and plan to release it, but Shor knows when.

    ZoS also said that Imperial City was nearly ready to be released. That it wouldn't come on 1.6 because 1.6 was already a large patch. They also said the PvP part of the justice system wouldn't come out with 1.6 because they needed to test the base of the system first, now we can't even sure the PvP justice will ever come.

    Not very confident on Spell Crating.

    They figured why release the Imperial City for free, when they can now effectively make everyone pay for it with cash.
    Make no mistake, you'll be paying for any future game additions. Period. They'll find a way to conveniently lump new/revised game systems into DLC packs, including content that has been promised since nearly after launch.
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    Consoles will have their own separate megaserver, they will not play on the same servers as the PC Master Race. Save for those who make good of the offer to transfer their account, they will not face "heaps of veteran-Level characters". If anything, this will be a lot bigger problem for newcomers playing on PC...
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    This post scared me a bit, but I totally agree. On a side note, I did also notice Paul Sages facial expressions and movements during Eso Live, which scared me the most. If he's losing faith, Eso is in for some trouble.
    -= Shahrzad the Great |Sorc| =-
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    Ok, Google Zenimax, where am I are we?
    Make sweetrolls, not nerfs!
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