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From the AmA Q&A:
With update 1.6 we've made a number of balance fixes to all abilities, as well as bug fixes for abilities such as Dark Cloak. In Cyrodiil we've updated the Battle Spirit buff to give players a buff that adds more health and damage reduction.
Though I'm not holding my breath. It might stop breaking on damage, but it'll probably break whenever you walk or something.
With update 1.6 we've made a number of balance fixes to all abilities, as well as bug fixes for abilities such as Dark Cloak. In Cyrodiil we've updated the Battle Spirit buff to give players a buff that adds more health and damage reduction.
Though I'm not holding my breath. It might stop breaking on damage, but it'll probably break whenever you walk or something.
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✭✭✭✭This was announced for patches 1.5, 1.4, 1.3, 1.2 and 1.1 before this.
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✭✭✭How can they fix it when it isn't broken?Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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NukeAllTheThings✭✭✭✭✭Here's how it usually seems to go. They announce they fixed cloak, then they break something that takes everyone out of stealth like weapon swap. They update to fix that then break cloak again then we read in 1.7 "WE FIXED CLOAK""it's important to state that our decision to go with subscriptions is not a referendum on online game revenue models. F2P, B2P, etc. are valid, proven business models - but subscription is the one that fits ESO the best, given our commitment to freedom of gameplay, quality and long-term content delivery. Plus, players will appreciate not having to worry about being "monetized" in the middle of playing the game, which is definitely a problem that is cropping up more and more in online gaming these days." - Matt Firor1 -
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seancaputo_ESO✭✭✭I watched this video interview HERE. Painful to watch, but they interviewed " Game-play designer and Zenimax employee Joe Blackburn was kind enough to stop by and give us some information on Elder Scrolls Online Patch 1.6."
They are not doing too much to anything about dark cloak.
My alt is a V14 NB. Just make Dark Cloak a Heal with Stamina Regen. Because, they will never get Dark Cloak right.6 -
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✭How can they fix it when it isn't broken?sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »because idiots will continue to cry fix when its isnt broken.If you die whoever killed you was either hacking/exploiting or the skill is just broken.
lmao
Except for the fact that ZOS mentioning they have a fix for Dark Cloak means that even ZOS is saying it's broken.
I know that's difficult for you to grasp... but do try to get with the program.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]
Edited by ZOS_ShannonM on January 25, 2015 4:30AM5 -
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✭✭✭How can they fix it when it isn't broken?sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »because idiots will continue to cry fix when its isnt broken.If you die whoever killed you was either hacking/exploiting or the skill is just broken.
lmao
Except for the fact that ZOS mentioning they have a fix for Dark Cloak means that even ZOS is saying it's broken.
I know that's difficult for you to grasp... but do try to get with the program.
cloak is broken, ignore them.
[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]Edited by ZOS_ShannonM on January 25, 2015 4:30AM2 -
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✭✭✭How can they fix it when it isn't broken?sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »because idiots will continue to cry fix when its isnt broken.If you die whoever killed you was either hacking/exploiting or the skill is just broken.
lmao
Except for the fact that ZOS mentioning they have a fix for Dark Cloak means that even ZOS is saying it's broken.
I know that's difficult for you to grasp... but do try to get with the program.
It's a mite confusing for me, because it works gloriously. You can ask anyone who regularly fights me, it's a hell of a skill. "Fixing" it, I worry, will make us NBs crazy OP. Because it's already really, really good.
[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]Edited by ZOS_ShannonM on January 25, 2015 4:31AMVehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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Its sort of like this myth, it was meant to be fixed many updates ago
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✭✭✭How can they fix it when it isn't broken?sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »because idiots will continue to cry fix when its isnt broken.If you die whoever killed you was either hacking/exploiting or the skill is just broken.
lmao
Except for the fact that ZOS mentioning they have a fix for Dark Cloak means that even ZOS is saying it's broken.
I know that's difficult for you "idiots" to grasp... but do try to get with the program.
It's a mite confusing for me, because it works gloriously. You can ask anyone who regularly fights me, it's a hell of a skill. "Fixing" it, I worry, will make us NBs crazy OP. Because it's already really, really good.
so you have found a way to make its .5 second duration useful?
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✭✭It is broken. However, I feel it will never truely be fixed because of how unique it is and the mechanics behind it.Formerly @Persian_Princess .. Now @Asgari
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✭✭✭How can they fix it when it isn't broken?sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »because idiots will continue to cry fix when its isnt broken.If you die whoever killed you was either hacking/exploiting or the skill is just broken.
lmao
Except for the fact that ZOS mentioning they have a fix for Dark Cloak means that even ZOS is saying it's broken.
I know that's difficult for you "idiots" to grasp... but do try to get with the program.
It's a mite confusing for me, because it works gloriously. You can ask anyone who regularly fights me, it's a hell of a skill. "Fixing" it, I worry, will make us NBs crazy OP. Because it's already really, really good.
so you have found a way to make its .5 second duration useful?
good for you. I am impressed.
It depends on what you want it to do. For people who want it to be an "escape from a raid while they are all shooting at you" I think there will be disappointment. However, in a smaller fight it's fantastic. Speced to Dark Cloak I have no trouble using it cleanse all DoTs and make myself unable to be targeted for the 3 seconds.
You have to be smart about it, but once you get the hang of it it's pretty good. The best success I have is to use it before I'm hit, which makes the ranged attack miss me and then I can float around for the next few seconds while everything misses, and come out of it. If I'm in heavy melee, I find it's best to dodge roll first and than hit it in the moment while everything misses.
I think people get frustrated with it because it's easily breakable and doesn't give them that "total darkness" feel they're expecting. I was in that crowd for a while. But I think that if it actually worked that way it'd be hella OP.
It works beautifully as a damage avoidance skill, which I notice when I fight other Nightblades who mark me. I don't have the regen and damage avoidance time, as they can constantly get on and pressure me. I never appreciate how essential it is to my fighting style until I'm not able to use it, and realize how amazing it is to have those seconds to regen, restore, and reposition for the next attack.
I'm more than happy to fight anyone who is curious to see how I use it and show how it works for me. I think it's an amazing skill, and I wish more Nightblades would learn to use it as it is (an extremely useful skill) instead of the skill they wish it was.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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✭^^^This guy is obviously mlg.Edited by TheBull on January 25, 2015 12:19AMKilled by Sunshine 1vX How I see it.
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Yeah I changed from pro to mlg that was my edit. I wanted to make sure you understood.Killed by Sunshine 1vX How I see it.
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✭✭✭How can they fix it when it isn't broken?sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »because idiots will continue to cry fix when its isnt broken.If you die whoever killed you was either hacking/exploiting or the skill is just broken.
lmao
Except for the fact that ZOS mentioning they have a fix for Dark Cloak means that even ZOS is saying it's broken.
I know that's difficult for you "idiots" to grasp... but do try to get with the program.
It's a mite confusing for me, because it works gloriously. You can ask anyone who regularly fights me, it's a hell of a skill. "Fixing" it, I worry, will make us NBs crazy OP. Because it's already really, really good.
so you have found a way to make its .5 second duration useful?
good for you. I am impressed.
It depends on what you want it to do. For people who want it to be an "escape from a raid while they are all shooting at you" I think there will be disappointment. However, in a smaller fight it's fantastic. Speced to Dark Cloak I have no trouble using it cleanse all DoTs and make myself unable to be targeted for the 3 seconds.
You have to be smart about it, but once you get the hang of it it's pretty good. The best success I have is to use it before I'm hit, which makes the ranged attack miss me and then I can float around for the next few seconds while everything misses, and come out of it. If I'm in heavy melee, I find it's best to dodge roll first and than hit it in the moment while everything misses.
I think people get frustrated with it because it's easily breakable and doesn't give them that "total darkness" feel they're expecting. I was in that crowd for a while. But I think that if it actually worked that way it'd be hella OP.
It works beautifully as a damage avoidance skill, which I notice when I fight other Nightblades who mark me. I don't have the regen and damage avoidance time, as they can constantly get on and pressure me. I never appreciate how essential it is to my fighting style until I'm not able to use it, and realize how amazing it is to have those seconds to regen, restore, and reposition for the next attack.
I'm more than happy to fight anyone who is curious to see how I use it and show how it works for me. I think it's an amazing skill, and I wish more Nightblades would learn to use it as it is (an extremely useful skill) instead of the skill they wish it was.
I know exactly how you use it. However, not every NB uses it the same way as you. Use of it in any other way has a high chance of it not working, meaning the skill does not work in many areas meaning the skill is broken.2 -
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✭✭✭How can they fix it when it isn't broken?sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »because idiots will continue to cry fix when its isnt broken.If you die whoever killed you was either hacking/exploiting or the skill is just broken.
lmao
Except for the fact that ZOS mentioning they have a fix for Dark Cloak means that even ZOS is saying it's broken.
I know that's difficult for you "idiots" to grasp... but do try to get with the program.
It's a mite confusing for me, because it works gloriously. You can ask anyone who regularly fights me, it's a hell of a skill. "Fixing" it, I worry, will make us NBs crazy OP. Because it's already really, really good.
so you have found a way to make its .5 second duration useful?
good for you. I am impressed.
It depends on what you want it to do. For people who want it to be an "escape from a raid while they are all shooting at you" I think there will be disappointment. However, in a smaller fight it's fantastic. Speced to Dark Cloak I have no trouble using it cleanse all DoTs and make myself unable to be targeted for the 3 seconds.
You have to be smart about it, but once you get the hang of it it's pretty good. The best success I have is to use it before I'm hit, which makes the ranged attack miss me and then I can float around for the next few seconds while everything misses, and come out of it. If I'm in heavy melee, I find it's best to dodge roll first and than hit it in the moment while everything misses.
I think people get frustrated with it because it's easily breakable and doesn't give them that "total darkness" feel they're expecting. I was in that crowd for a while. But I think that if it actually worked that way it'd be hella OP.
It works beautifully as a damage avoidance skill, which I notice when I fight other Nightblades who mark me. I don't have the regen and damage avoidance time, as they can constantly get on and pressure me. I never appreciate how essential it is to my fighting style until I'm not able to use it, and realize how amazing it is to have those seconds to regen, restore, and reposition for the next attack.
I'm more than happy to fight anyone who is curious to see how I use it and show how it works for me. I think it's an amazing skill, and I wish more Nightblades would learn to use it as it is (an extremely useful skill) instead of the skill they wish it was.
I know exactly how you use it. However, not every NB uses it the same way as you. Use of it in any other way has a high chance of it not working, meaning the skill does not work in many areas meaning the skill is broken.
Or you're expecting it to do more than it should. It's one skill, not an I Win button .Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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✭✭✭How can they fix it when it isn't broken?sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »because idiots will continue to cry fix when its isnt broken.If you die whoever killed you was either hacking/exploiting or the skill is just broken.
lmao
Except for the fact that ZOS mentioning they have a fix for Dark Cloak means that even ZOS is saying it's broken.
I know that's difficult for you "idiots" to grasp... but do try to get with the program.
It's a mite confusing for me, because it works gloriously. You can ask anyone who regularly fights me, it's a hell of a skill. "Fixing" it, I worry, will make us NBs crazy OP. Because it's already really, really good.
so you have found a way to make its .5 second duration useful?
good for you. I am impressed.
It depends on what you want it to do. For people who want it to be an "escape from a raid while they are all shooting at you" I think there will be disappointment. However, in a smaller fight it's fantastic. Speced to Dark Cloak I have no trouble using it cleanse all DoTs and make myself unable to be targeted for the 3 seconds.
You have to be smart about it, but once you get the hang of it it's pretty good. The best success I have is to use it before I'm hit, which makes the ranged attack miss me and then I can float around for the next few seconds while everything misses, and come out of it. If I'm in heavy melee, I find it's best to dodge roll first and than hit it in the moment while everything misses.
I think people get frustrated with it because it's easily breakable and doesn't give them that "total darkness" feel they're expecting. I was in that crowd for a while. But I think that if it actually worked that way it'd be hella OP.
It works beautifully as a damage avoidance skill, which I notice when I fight other Nightblades who mark me. I don't have the regen and damage avoidance time, as they can constantly get on and pressure me. I never appreciate how essential it is to my fighting style until I'm not able to use it, and realize how amazing it is to have those seconds to regen, restore, and reposition for the next attack.
I'm more than happy to fight anyone who is curious to see how I use it and show how it works for me. I think it's an amazing skill, and I wish more Nightblades would learn to use it as it is (an extremely useful skill) instead of the skill they wish it was.
I know exactly how you use it. However, not every NB uses it the same way as you. Use of it in any other way has a high chance of it not working, meaning the skill does not work in many areas meaning the skill is broken.
Or you're expecting it to do more than it should. It's one skill, not an I Win button .
I should be able to escape with it... not have it break on me as soon as I use it. It only lasts 2.9 seconds and is easily beaten by detect pots and magelight as it is. The least it can do is last the full 2.9 seconds.Edited by Cody on January 25, 2015 2:44AM5 -
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✭✭✭How can they fix it when it isn't broken?sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »because idiots will continue to cry fix when its isnt broken.If you die whoever killed you was either hacking/exploiting or the skill is just broken.
lmao
Except for the fact that ZOS mentioning they have a fix for Dark Cloak means that even ZOS is saying it's broken.
I know that's difficult for you "idiots" to grasp... but do try to get with the program.
It's a mite confusing for me, because it works gloriously. You can ask anyone who regularly fights me, it's a hell of a skill. "Fixing" it, I worry, will make us NBs crazy OP. Because it's already really, really good.
so you have found a way to make its .5 second duration useful?
good for you. I am impressed.
It depends on what you want it to do. For people who want it to be an "escape from a raid while they are all shooting at you" I think there will be disappointment. However, in a smaller fight it's fantastic. Speced to Dark Cloak I have no trouble using it cleanse all DoTs and make myself unable to be targeted for the 3 seconds.
You have to be smart about it, but once you get the hang of it it's pretty good. The best success I have is to use it before I'm hit, which makes the ranged attack miss me and then I can float around for the next few seconds while everything misses, and come out of it. If I'm in heavy melee, I find it's best to dodge roll first and than hit it in the moment while everything misses.
I think people get frustrated with it because it's easily breakable and doesn't give them that "total darkness" feel they're expecting. I was in that crowd for a while. But I think that if it actually worked that way it'd be hella OP.
It works beautifully as a damage avoidance skill, which I notice when I fight other Nightblades who mark me. I don't have the regen and damage avoidance time, as they can constantly get on and pressure me. I never appreciate how essential it is to my fighting style until I'm not able to use it, and realize how amazing it is to have those seconds to regen, restore, and reposition for the next attack.
I'm more than happy to fight anyone who is curious to see how I use it and show how it works for me. I think it's an amazing skill, and I wish more Nightblades would learn to use it as it is (an extremely useful skill) instead of the skill they wish it was.
I know exactly how you use it. However, not every NB uses it the same way as you. Use of it in any other way has a high chance of it not working, meaning the skill does not work in many areas meaning the skill is broken.
Or you're expecting it to do more than it should. It's one skill, not an I Win button .
I should be able to escape with it... not have it break on me as soon as I use it. It only lasts 2.9 seconds and is easily beaten by detect pots and magelight as it is. The least it can do is last the full 2.9 seconds.
Some one using a pot with a 30 sec cool down to counter an instant cast is fine by me. You're also wrong, magelight is not effective against it.
Really it's just a usage issue. It's a combat skill that makes NBs deadly, and also happens to be the 2nd best escape tool in the game. Seems to me like you want to have the cake and eat it too.
Again, if more people used it to decimate their opponents you wouldn't need to rely on it to be a sure fire escape skill.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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✭✭✭How can they fix it when it isn't broken?sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »because idiots will continue to cry fix when its isnt broken.If you die whoever killed you was either hacking/exploiting or the skill is just broken.
lmao
Except for the fact that ZOS mentioning they have a fix for Dark Cloak means that even ZOS is saying it's broken.
I know that's difficult for you "idiots" to grasp... but do try to get with the program.
It's a mite confusing for me, because it works gloriously. You can ask anyone who regularly fights me, it's a hell of a skill. "Fixing" it, I worry, will make us NBs crazy OP. Because it's already really, really good.
so you have found a way to make its .5 second duration useful?
good for you. I am impressed.
It depends on what you want it to do. For people who want it to be an "escape from a raid while they are all shooting at you" I think there will be disappointment. However, in a smaller fight it's fantastic. Speced to Dark Cloak I have no trouble using it cleanse all DoTs and make myself unable to be targeted for the 3 seconds.
You have to be smart about it, but once you get the hang of it it's pretty good. The best success I have is to use it before I'm hit, which makes the ranged attack miss me and then I can float around for the next few seconds while everything misses, and come out of it. If I'm in heavy melee, I find it's best to dodge roll first and than hit it in the moment while everything misses.
I think people get frustrated with it because it's easily breakable and doesn't give them that "total darkness" feel they're expecting. I was in that crowd for a while. But I think that if it actually worked that way it'd be hella OP.
It works beautifully as a damage avoidance skill, which I notice when I fight other Nightblades who mark me. I don't have the regen and damage avoidance time, as they can constantly get on and pressure me. I never appreciate how essential it is to my fighting style until I'm not able to use it, and realize how amazing it is to have those seconds to regen, restore, and reposition for the next attack.
I'm more than happy to fight anyone who is curious to see how I use it and show how it works for me. I think it's an amazing skill, and I wish more Nightblades would learn to use it as it is (an extremely useful skill) instead of the skill they wish it was.
I know exactly how you use it. However, not every NB uses it the same way as you. Use of it in any other way has a high chance of it not working, meaning the skill does not work in many areas meaning the skill is broken.
Or you're expecting it to do more than it should. It's one skill, not an I Win button .
I should be able to escape with it... not have it break on me as soon as I use it. It only lasts 2.9 seconds and is easily beaten by detect pots and magelight as it is. The least it can do is last the full 2.9 seconds.
Some one using a pot with a 30 sec cool down to counter an instant cast is fine by me. You're also wrong, magelight is not effective against it.
Really it's just a usage issue. It's a combat skill that makes NBs deadly, and also happens to be the 2nd best escape tool in the game. Seems to me like you want to have the cake and eat it too.
Again, if more people used it to decimate their opponents you wouldn't need to rely on it to be a sure fire escape skill.
I don't want to use it as a combat skill... I only want to use it as an escape skill. In fact, I ONLY ever used it(I no longer even use the skill, I switched it for something else long ago) as an escape skill. I do not want the best of both worlds, I want the best of one of them. I do not expect to be able to do both. Dang right I want it as a good escape skill. Why is me wanting it as a good escape skill not as "good" as you wanting it for a pure combat skill?
I don't even have the mana to use it as a combat skill, im a stamina build!!:/ im in most-all medium armor, with points into health and stamina, I CANT use it as a combat skill, so how could I possibly get the" best of both worlds" to begin with? I can ONLY use it as an escape skill, and, surprise!!! it often broke long before I could make the attempt. The tooltip says 2.9 seconds, not 0.5.(or 0.1 on the rare occasion)
But of course, it would be "OP" if it worked as an escape skill........ forgetting about the fact one of the classes has access to a skill that teleports them across the map almost instantly.. yeah THATS not OP, but a 3 second invisibility spell is....I make that comparison for a reason, not just to complain about BE(nor am I complaining abut BE)
defend it how you will, but cloak is broken. It lasts 0.5/2.9 seconds at least half the time it is used. Either the tooltip needs to be changed to 0.5, or the skill needs to be fixed. one of the two.
Edited by Cody on January 25, 2015 3:08AM4
