It has been CONFIRMED that player(s) are contacting Sony and Microsoft about the issue suggesting that the two giants can have an impact it would seem the players do not to persuade Zenimax to reconsider its current stance. Player(s) have contacted and emailed the possibility of a boycott of sorts against the two companies if they carry this title as some have said that gamers deserve better than the current treatment. I have been told by various guilds of TESO that Friday will host guild events involving contacting said customer support lines of the two companies to voice there concerns and stance towards the release of the title on there platforms. Will it make a difference? Is this just going a bit far? Is Sony and Microsoft more worried about There overall than what's in Zenimax's best interest?
More important will you be one of those people? What's your thoughts on all this?
TROLL IT ALL YOU WANT I AM JUST SHARING THIS INFO
It has been CONFIRMED that player(s) are contacting Sony and Microsoft about the issue suggesting that the two giants can have an impact it would seem the players do not to persuade Zenimax to reconsider its current stance. Player(s) have contacted and emailed the possibility of a boycott of sorts against the two companies if they carry this title as some have said that gamers deserve better than the current treatment. I have been told by various guilds of TESO that Friday will host guild events involving contacting said customer support lines of the two companies to voice there concerns and stance towards the release of the title on there platforms. Will it make a difference? Is this just going a bit far? Is Sony and Microsoft more worried about There overall than what's in Zenimax's best interest?
More important will you be one of those people? What's your thoughts on all this?
TROLL IT ALL YOU WANT I AM JUST SHARING THIS INFO
Bethesda's Vice President of PR, Pete Hines, has detailed the publisher's plan to support The Elder Scrolls Online post-launch with regular content additions. Speaking to GameSpot, Hines defended the game's monthly $14.99 subscription fee by describing it as a "value proposition".
"We feel pretty strongly about the support we're going to have for the game and what you're going to get for those dollars," he said when asked why The Elder Scrolls Online was not pursuing a free-to-play model. "We're also very confident in our ability to support it with content. And not content of the magnitude of, it's a new month, here's a new sword or here's a funny hat--but content that is real and significant and it feels like regular and consistent DLC releases."
"... Not here's a new sword or here's a funny hat--but content that is real and significant and it feels like regular and consistent DLC releases."
Hines further justified the subscription fee by explaining that, as a massively multiplayer game, The Elder Scrolls Online would require all players to have the same content installed and available to them in order to interact with one another.
"So you wind up in a situation where you say, look, by and large, when you're talking about regular content, adding new features and new parts of the world, either you're all in or you're not," he continued.
Hines recognized that this may limit the MMORPG's potential number of players, saying that this was not an issue for Bethesda.
"We're not trying to make a game that everybody who plays games will automatically buy," he elaborated. "It is a certain kind of game. There's no shooter elements. There's no aliens. It is a massive, 'Go where you want, do what you want' game that we think offers the kind of experience that's worthy of a subscription."
Hines described how this approach would have been affected had Bethesda chosen to adopt a free-to-play model, stating that the percentage of the team Bethesda could afford to assign to create future content would depend upon the The Elder Scrolls Online's base sales performance.
"That just seems like a lesser game, and we're not going to make a lesser game that might be more palatable," he continued. "We want to do the version that we think is the best game and the coolest experience. And that means putting a lot of people and a lot of content creators towards having stuff that comes our regularly; every four weeks, five weeks, six weeks. Big new stuff that you want to do."
BoloBoffin wrote: »I'm not trolling you - I'm trying to understand what's happening. What are they calling Sony and Microsoft and saying? Why are they threatening boycott of XBox and Microsoft?
I have to say: I doubt either Sony or Microsoft would care. Remember this back in August?
http://www.usgamer.net/articles/elder-scrolls-online-dev-doesnt-want-you-to-pay-two-subscription-fees
What we are watching is the aftermath of Bethesda and Zenimax going crunch against Sony and Microsoft. If they didn't listen to us via Z&B, why are they going to listen to some guild members? I mean, hey, kudos for trying to get something done, folks. But Mannimicro and Sony Bal won this one.
It has been CONFIRMED that player(s) are contacting Sony and Microsoft about the issue suggesting that the two giants can have an impact it would seem the players do not to persuade Zenimax to reconsider its current stance. Player(s) have contacted and emailed the possibility of a boycott of sorts against the two companies if they carry this title as some have said that gamers deserve better than the current treatment. I have been told by various guilds of TESO that Friday will host guild events involving contacting said customer support lines of the two companies to voice there concerns and stance towards the release of the title on there platforms. Will it make a difference? Is this just going a bit far? Is Sony and Microsoft more worried about There overall than what's in Zenimax's best interest?
More important will you be one of those people? What's your thoughts on all this?
TROLL IT ALL YOU WANT I AM JUST SHARING THIS INFO
xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Some of you guys need a reality check..
They're not going to change this because you're upset.
BoloBoffin wrote: »I'm not trolling you - I'm trying to understand what's happening. What are they calling Sony and Microsoft and saying? Why are they threatening boycott of XBox and Microsoft?
I have to say: I doubt either Sony or Microsoft would care. Remember this back in August?
http://www.usgamer.net/articles/elder-scrolls-online-dev-doesnt-want-you-to-pay-two-subscription-fees
What we are watching is the aftermath of Bethesda and Zenimax going crunch against Sony and Microsoft. If they didn't listen to us via Z&B, why are they going to listen to some guild members? I mean, hey, kudos for trying to get something done, folks. But Mannimicro and Sony Bal won this one.
I wish everyone well and I know we will all move on with our lives and in a week or so we will be doing other things and not worried about this in the least.
xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Some of you guys need a reality check..
They're not going to change this because you're upset.
Oh I agree They're not going to change it. But if they want to have continued success on console They better not put out the Elder Scrolls 6 Because the people that buy this for console Are going to realize very quickly That if they bought this because it was an Elder Scrolls game It's nowhere near as good as the others. The quests Are not as immersive And there is much more broken with this game The entire titles in the series. If they choose to release the Elder Scrolls 6 on consoles Yes soul will die Or go free to play.
xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Some of you guys need a reality check..
They're not going to change this because you're upset.
Oh I agree They're not going to change it. But if they want to have continued success on console They better not put out the Elder Scrolls 6 Because the people that buy this for console Are going to realize very quickly That if they bought this because it was an Elder Scrolls game It's nowhere near as good as the others. The quests Are not as immersive And there is much more broken with this game The entire titles in the series. If they choose to release the Elder Scrolls 6 on consoles Yes soul will die Or go free to play.
Do you remember Diablo 3 initial sales? They absolutely shattered records even though many people thought and still do that Diablo 2 was a much better game.
I don't think TES VI will have any problems selling copies over this issue here at ESO today. Of course, I could be wrong, but I think people will be able to distinguish the future RPG from the online game.
Well if you look at it from a business subcontractor viewpoint If I was Microsoft or Sony I would be worried about having the Elder Scrolls online associated with my platform Because it's no different Then accompanied Hiring somebody who looks like a slob and has a rotten reputation For lying and cheating people To represent them.
The anger storm that's brewing over this Has the potential to rub off on them And if I was them I would have to ask myself If I want their bad reputation Attached to my company.
Do you remember Diablo 3 initial sales? They absolutely shattered records even though many people thought and still do that Diablo 2 was a much better game.
I don't think TES VI will have any problems selling copies over this issue here at ESO today. Of course, I could be wrong, but I think people will be able to distinguish the future RPG from the online game.
Don't these people have jobs, families and other more important issues to worry about than the status of a video game? I mean...really?! These 5 people think Xbox is Sony is going to care what they have to say?
The percentage of players that visit these forums is quite small. Among this group, there is a smaller group that even attempts to post. To get a perspective outside of this forum, you could consider a poll from another forum:
mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/426438/So-how-do-you-feel-about-the-switch-to-B2P.html
While this poll doesn't prove anything, it does show a much different perspective from a broader mmorpg community. They seem to be largely in favor of the change.
Imagine the general public and the potential millions of console players who don't give two sh*ts about the decision at all. Then imagine the possible profit ZOS, Microsoft, and Sony will make from box sales to these millions of new consumers.
Do you think a few die hard fans of the existing incarnation of this game have a snowball's chance in hell of getting these companies to change?
I don't. I think it's better just to relax about the whole thing and play as long as you're having fun. If you are bothered by this change, then just unsub. I do understand your point of view.
Honestly, it's not a big deal. But I will admit I have enjoyed reading and posting in the forums more the past couple of days (I'm not proud of this, by the way) than I have playing. It has been a very interesting study of human psychology (my own as well as that of others) triggered by the various opinions, responses, and schisms within our little community brought about by this change.
I wish everyone well and I know we will all move on with our lives and in a week or so we will be doing other things and not worried about this in the least.