Will you stay subscribed or leave altogether after the B2P transition?

kewl · January 2015

Member Since May 28, 2014

Djem · January 2015

Staying, but not subbing to ESO Plus.

Nice non-biased poll buddy. Totally objective.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

will wait and see

Alphashado · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

If there are in-your-face reminders about the cash shop like lockboxes or flashing icons, I am done. There will be nothing more ironic than flashing cash shop icon on a UI that was left bare for "immersion".

pmn100b16_ESO · January 2015

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

Neizir wrote: »

BlueIllyrian wrote: »

What makes you think that increased revenues for ZOS equal more content for players?

Because more investment = more content. That's the way it's been for every product out there.

You're funny.Extremely naive

eisberg · January 2015

Staying, but not subbing to ESO Plus.

Ohioastro wrote: »

If you want an actual discussion you don't start with absurdly slanted poll options.

I won't support games with cash shops. There are many, many examples of bad outcomes with them. Maybe this will be the first one where that isn't true, but it isn't irrational at all to doubt it.

So, I'll vote in the only way that I can: I canceled my sub, and I won't look back. Let them prove that they'll be different, rather than my assuming that they'll be a special snowflake.

Guild Wars 1 and 2, both with Cash shops, neither with bad outcomes. Now I haven't played any MMO for 6 years after playing WoW till Guild Wars 2, but I have heard from other players that have played many other MMOs that have a cash shop that were just as good as Guild Wars 2 system. Granted it looks like there are a lot of bad ones out there, but ESO would hardly be the first one to make a good one.

Iago · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

Only staying until the bot and P2W cash shop hit then Im prolly out

PBpsy · January 2015

Leaving. God forbid that ZOS make more revenue and give us better updates!

If I were to pay fro a sub in a F2P game it would probably be SWTOR.But then again i wouldn't pay a sub in a F2P game.

Zershar_Vemod · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

Going to see how far downhill it goes for about a month or so then make my decision.

THammer · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

Staying and paying until I am no longer having fun - hopefully a long time from now.

Zorrashi · January 2015

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

Going to see how far downhill it goes for about a month or so then make my decision.

Same. Honestly though, I have little faith that it will maintain my sub. A slim chance is all I can give at this point.

Zershar_Vemod · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

Zorrashi wrote: »

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

Going to see how far downhill it goes for about a month or so then make my decision.

Same. Honestly though, I have little faith that it will maintain my sub. A slim chance is all I can give at this point.

Pretty much Star Citizen is my last hope for online gaming.

But I have more faith in Chris Roberts's knowledge of how to treat customers.

theroyalestpythonnub18_ESO · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

Best case scenario is that ZOS keeps pushing out content and improvement, and I stay subscribed. I'm willing to wait around for a few months, and see how this whole thing unfolds.

If they slow down the pace to the point where it's not worth it anymore then I guess I'll stop paying. No big deal.

Imryll · January 2015

Staying, but not subbing to ESO Plus.

It's already too easy to outlevel content. Why would I want to pay for an xp bonus?

Actually, I guess we'll be subbed the first month or two because we'll still have time on our current subscriptions, but probably not after that. We'll buy DLC and maybe the occasional fun item, but I doubt that it will be advantageous for us to subscribe.

AlayneStone · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

I'm gonna stay for a bit and see how I like it.

Alphashado · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

eisberg wrote: »

Ohioastro wrote: »

If you want an actual discussion you don't start with absurdly slanted poll options.

I won't support games with cash shops. There are many, many examples of bad outcomes with them. Maybe this will be the first one where that isn't true, but it isn't irrational at all to doubt it.

So, I'll vote in the only way that I can: I canceled my sub, and I won't look back. Let them prove that they'll be different, rather than my assuming that they'll be a special snowflake.

Guild Wars 1 and 2, both with Cash shops, neither with bad outcomes. Now I haven't played any MMO for 6 years after playing WoW till Guild Wars 2, but I have heard from other players that have played many other MMOs that have a cash shop that were just as good as Guild Wars 2 system. Granted it looks like there are a lot of bad ones out there, but ESO would hardly be the first one to make a good one.

I believe GW2 has/had lockboxes. They are incredibly annoying. Your bags just fill up with them and the only way to open them is with a key you buy from the cash shop. You can ignore them, choose not to open them etc, but they are everywhere and they are a constant reminder that if you whip out your credit card you could get a special prize. Which usually turns out to be nothing.

Throren · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

Alphashado wrote: »

I believe GW2 has/had lockboxes. They are incredibly annoying. Your bags just fill up with them and the only way to open them is with a key you buy from the cash shop. You can ignore them, choose not to open them etc, but they are everywhere and they are a constant reminder that if you whip out your credit card you could get a special prize. Which usually turns out to be nothing.

Well worry not, they confirmed on reddit they won't be adding lockbox type items to the store

Aevric · January 2015

Staying, but not subbing to ESO Plus.

It won't be wise to continue your subscription, if you eventually ever want to cancel Plus and still play. NO DLC will be available to you (you'll have to purchase ALL DLC again) if you cancel Plus, no matter how long you've been a subscriber. Zero.

Alphashado · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

Throren wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

I believe GW2 has/had lockboxes. They are incredibly annoying. Your bags just fill up with them and the only way to open them is with a key you buy from the cash shop. You can ignore them, choose not to open them etc, but they are everywhere and they are a constant reminder that if you whip out your credit card you could get a special prize. Which usually turns out to be nothing.

Well worry not, they confirmed on reddit they won't be adding lockbox type items to the store

They also confirmed that the subscription model was here to stay. Several times. Sorry, but at this point, "confirmation" means less than nothing to me. At the end of the day it will be the suits upstairs that make the decisions and clearly promises and confirmations have been broken.

Chesimac · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

I'm gonna play until CU comes out.... lol. Or if it goes P2W

Teiji · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

I have no choice!

I still can't get over the fact that it doesn't say I have IMP edition, everyone is worrying about nonsense when the real issue here is this; am I the only one that is listed as having the "retail standard edition" as opposed to my glorious physical collectors edition with an even more glorious physical book.

But yes, I can't be bothered to cancel my sub so I'll just keep it going as it's less effort. Plus, Zeni is wonderful.

DDuke · January 2015

Alphashado wrote: »

eisberg wrote: »

Ohioastro wrote: »

If you want an actual discussion you don't start with absurdly slanted poll options.

I won't support games with cash shops. There are many, many examples of bad outcomes with them. Maybe this will be the first one where that isn't true, but it isn't irrational at all to doubt it.

So, I'll vote in the only way that I can: I canceled my sub, and I won't look back. Let them prove that they'll be different, rather than my assuming that they'll be a special snowflake.

Guild Wars 1 and 2, both with Cash shops, neither with bad outcomes. Now I haven't played any MMO for 6 years after playing WoW till Guild Wars 2, but I have heard from other players that have played many other MMOs that have a cash shop that were just as good as Guild Wars 2 system. Granted it looks like there are a lot of bad ones out there, but ESO would hardly be the first one to make a good one.

I believe GW2 has/had lockboxes. They are incredibly annoying. Your bags just fill up with them and the only way to open them is with a key you buy from the cash shop. You can ignore them, choose not to open them etc, but they are everywhere and they are a constant reminder that if you whip out your credit card you could get a special prize. Which usually turns out to be nothing.

Oh, there's a lot more than boxes...

WvW Experience Boosters (equal to AP)
XP Boosters
Crafting Boosters
Extra Bank Slots/Inventory Slots/Storage Space
Extra Crafting Profession (imagine if you had to pay for having more than one in ESO)
Potions that give you better chance of finding rare items (can you imagine this with Nirncrux gems, SO sets or Undaunted Helms?)
Extra Character Slots

Just for full inventory/bank space you'll have to pay hundreds of $.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Gem_Store

Dave2836 · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

To me this is a luxury expense. I compare it to say watching a movie in a theater or renting one off Amazon Prime/Netflix. If i can get in 3 hours a month of quality game time I'm satisfied. Hell I paid $15 for that horrid portrayal of The Hobbit: Battle of the 5 Armies to which I should have bought a whole liter of Captain Morgan for my diet coke to help alleviate the "grind" that was the back and forth drawn out drama of "why does it hurt so much" - "because it was real" attempt at evoking some kind of emotion out of me besides frustration.

I appreciate that the suits have decided to adapt to their market rather than stick to their guns and let the franchise die due to conflicts of subscribership (thanks Microsoft for ruining another wonderful product).

We have to keep in mind though this is a niche product, in a niche market, with a relatively veeeeeeery small player base to choose from. That being said the maps are way larger than almost every other MMO I've played such as RO, ROSE, EVE, Allods, Jade Empire, Heroes Online, EQ2, DCUO, etc. The voice acting is on par with DCUO, the visual fidelity exceeds that of every other MMO out there, the player choices have an effect future interactions in the game, and there is a large backstory rooted deep in the exploration and book cases if you ever desire to read anything.

Perhaps they tried to be too big too soon, but I like their direction in the quality of content. A quality single player game requires atleast 18 months of arduous slave labor development to produce a quality product, and to say it doesn't translate equivocally to MMOs is absurd. More subscriptions does not equate to earlier release of quality product but typically the higher quality of the product released.

To everyone else who finds issue with the new marketing strategy... just subscribe and play the game while imbibing on some "refreshing" beverages. It made 47 Ronin seem like the best movie I ever watched.

gm_ESO · January 2015

Leaving. God forbid that ZOS make more revenue and give us better updates!

Both the OP and the poll are quite biased...and doesn't reflect (or respect) any choice other than staying.

Zenimax had a huge launch with ESO, which equaled lots of money. And nine months of required subscriptions, which equaled lots of money. And even some additional sales of Imperial upgrades and a few odds and ends from their (rather underwhelming) online shop, which equaled a bit more money.

Did all this money result in frequent content updates? Newp. There was zero new content for anybody who isn't both VR and plays in groups. What makes you think switching to B2P, which will probably become F2P within another 9 months or so, will result in more money and thus more content? Or do you just believe this through faith?

FWIW, my subscription is up at the end of this month and even though I was an Early Access player and did quite enjoy the game for a long while, I'll be leaving then rather than paying for another six weeks.

NightDragon · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

Staying no matter what i love this game way to much to quit. Just waiting for 1.6 to hit. So meanwhile taking a break but while being subbed.

Breg_Magol · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

The real world changes day by day ... so why would ESO be any different? I suspect that most of the Plus sub players won't really notice the difference.

togmb16_ESO · January 2015

Leaving. God forbid that ZOS make more revenue and give us better updates!

kewl wrote: »

Member Since May 28, 2014

Just saw the same picture at my account management page. What a coincidence. Did something happen? Ah... yes, we were lied to. Can't imagine it will get any better from here on out...

Korah_Eaglecry · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

BlueIllyrian wrote: »

Neizir wrote: »

BlueIllyrian wrote: »

What makes you think that increased revenues for ZOS equal more content for players?

Because more investment = more content. That's the way it's been for every product out there.

No, that's your assumption. The goal is to increase revenues and minimize expenses, including reinvestment. By your logic every f2p game should be a huge quality project.

You claim the comment he makes is an assumption even though its backed by the Devs statements as to their direction with the B2P/Sub Hybrid. And then turn around and make an assumption yourself that is only backed by other nimrods on this site raging and fearmongering. Youre a hypocrite a best.

skillastat · January 2015

Leaving. God forbid that ZOS make more revenue and give us better updates!

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

I'm gonna leave and here's my first step I done today for drifting away from the game:

black-gryphonb14_ESO · January 2015

Staying. I'm going to subscribe for ESO Plus.

I'll still have about 4-5 months left on my current subscription when the change happens. Means I'll have plenty of time to see how things work out. I also fully expect that there will be another update before (after 6) before the changeover and will be surprised if there isn't DLC ready when the change happens.