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Cyrodil losing life, is it time to bring us PVE Cyrodil?

Tapio75
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As they are removing stuff like deer and so forth from Cyrodil, i see it slowly becoming more and more PVP oriented place instead of zone to adventure and explore... To favor PVP, would it be better to just add Cyrodil as a new PVE zone that is like Cyrodil but only without PVP. A zone where we can see and meet players of other factions, do trade and stuff like RP on Imperial city and so forth.

Why would this be good for PVP? this way they can give us living Cyrodil with all the extra life that is hitting performance(supposedly) and give PVP players a separate Cyrodil, further optimized for massive PVP..

What say you
Edited by Tapio75 on January 16, 2015 10:50AM
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Cyrodil losing life, is it time to bring us PVE Cyrodil? 369 votes

Yes
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Other
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No
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  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    No
    In other words OP. You want to remove the need to go into the PvP Zone to access the PvE content there. Even though the PvE content there is unnecessary to leveling up.

    Im not even really into PvP and could definitely live with just PvE content. But I think its interesting that ZOS decided to place PvE content in Cyrodiil. And I see no point in going into Cyrodiil just for the side missions without the PvP. The whole point of that part of the map is for the different factions to fight over each other. PvE ONLY Cyrodiil would be even more dead then a doornail if they were to open up a PvE ONLY instance.
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  • MornaBaine
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    I like adventuring in Cyrodil precisely because of the threat of running in to PvP now and again. We DO need cross-faction zones. But they should not be Cyrodil. Eyevea, controlled by the Mages Guild, should be a neutral zone. There's never anyone there save a handful of questors and this would bring that zone to life. Another likely zone would actually be Stros M'kai precisely because of it's wild pirate island feel and general lawlessness. But even better would be NEW zones with cross-faction content.
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  • jeevin
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    I think it would be cool if they made Cyrodiil to be just like, well, Cyrodiil from Oblivion. Get rid of the AvA and just have a zone where players can pvp or pve. Pvp could battle for domination of the towns. Could be bad ass if done well.
  • jeevin
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    I think it would be cool if they made Cyrodiil to be just like, well, Cyrodiil from Oblivion. Get rid of the AvA and just have a zone where players can pvp or pve. Pvp could battle for domination of the towns. Could be bad ass if done well.
  • katamuro11b16_ESO
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    I would rather have other areas of Tamriel open up. But if they make the central area common for all three sides that would be cool.
  • kevlarto_ESO
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    Other
    Imperial City still on the way.
  • KiriX
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    Yes
    May be not loosing life, but need bring more PVE =)
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  • phairdon
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    Yes
    A pve version of Cyrodiil has been on my wish list since April. Pvp & pve should never be on the same map. Of course this is just my view point.
    More pve only zones cannot harm the game.

    *Update* My answer should be under 'other as' I do not play pvp, thus had no idea how popular the format is & going by latter posts, looks like a good population base.
    Edited by phairdon on March 27, 2015 7:42PM
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  • Wolfsspinne
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    Yes
    It's Cyrodiil with double i.


    PvE Cyrodiil would be a nice addition to the game.
    That is if the PvE Cyrodiil grants no buffs and takes all characters of an account no matter what faction they belong to.
    In this case they also could get rid of the 7- and 14-day campaigns which are totally owned by single factions.
  • Joejudas
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    No
    No. Stop forcing PvP
  • trimsic_ESO
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    No
    I bought ESO because it's end game was all about PVP in Cyrodiil. It's the only MMO that offers large scale PVP, and even if it could be improved, it's there and fun.
  • NadiusMaximus
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    No
    War in this games a joke. It's not a war. It's a regulated conflict.
    Open all lands to pvp. Let it be that factions lands, towns quest points, be taken and held. You want to pve in another factions area, no problem, get a group.

    Total war or no war, this pussyaroundwar is not fun.
  • Vizier
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    No
    Shoo. Shoo. BAD IDEA. BAD BAD IDEA, Shoo!

    1. Cyrodiil is not dead. It is a PvP Zone. If you are too scared to access the PvE content there don't go to Cyrodiil then. There's plenty nuff content outside of Cyrodiil to Level and continue xp.

    *edited to proper usage of a word. Switched "their" with "there." oops.
    Edited by Vizier on January 21, 2015 5:10PM
  • Valencer
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    PvE in Cyrodiil is based around the tension of a PvP environment. The quest dialogue is intentionally short and to the point so you don't spend too much time being oblivious to your environment. Cyrodiil is big enough for you to be able to avoid most enemy players. In short, Cyrodiil PvE is designed for a PvP zone.

    Honestly, I wouldn't have it any other way. I'm not much of a PvPer, but I do love getting ambushed and ending up dueling people. Shame it doesn't happen as much anymore.
  • Wolfsspinne
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    I bought ESO because it's end game was all about PVP in Cyrodiil. It's the only MMO that offers large scale PVP, and even if it could be improved, it's there and fun.

    No MMOs offering large scale PvP?
    Let's look at the ones starting with the letter "A":

    Aika, Aion, ArcheAge, Archelord, Archelord 2...

    That's 5 MMOs (maybe more that I don't know!) that offer large scale PvP.
    And that's only the ones starting with the letter A.
    Edited by Wolfsspinne on January 16, 2015 11:36AM
  • Tapio75
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    Yes
    Answers are pretty much what i anticipated :)

    Anyways, i love Curodil precisely due danger due other players might be hostile, it is a feel of realism and only place where playing has felt what ESO should have been all about from the beginning.

    That said, i do not like the idea of removing various fluff from the zone to optimize for PVP. They should keep the zone as alive as possible with all the wildlife and stuff that you might expect to find from there.
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  • dharbert
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    Cyrodiil already has tons of PvE content. Delves, dolmens, quests, skyshards.....
  • Elloa
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    Yes
    DISCLAIMER: I don't want to touch to the excisting PVP campaigns. Just add a non PVP one

    I love the idea of making a Cyrodiil PVE campaign where players of any level could scale up, and enjoy some adventures together.
    There would not be much to add to make it a sort of "adventure zone" with solo and group content and allow players of various level to have some activities to share together.

    I think ESO is lacking something that can bring players of various level together and that would just be perfect and not very costly devellopement wise.
    It could also be upgraded later in various updates(new Dungeon in Cyrodiil!! New World boss in Cyrodiil! New quest hub in Cyrodiil)

    I really hope Zenimax will consider this.


    Edited by Elloa on January 16, 2015 12:16PM
  • ZigoSid
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    No.

    But more dailies in Cyrodiil could be interesting (or any other PVE content that can turn into PVP when everyone want to do it.)
    Edited by ZigoSid on January 16, 2015 12:28PM
  • tinythinker
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    No
    Nope, completionists who happen not to like PvP will have to risk the dangers of war to complete the Cyrodiil content and unlock the achievements. That's part of the challenge.

    As others have mentioned there are better ways to introduce cross-faction interaction, such as opening up Eyevea or Coldharbor or making a new zone that is intended to allow cross-faction content. I suggested at some point that a new threat from (and zone) outside of Tamriel, another land or another plane, would be good for such purposes.

    In fact, if ZOS wanted a cross-faction area...
    Eyevea and Coldharbor would be ideal since they are supposed to be populated by members of all three factions studying and fighting together with the blessings of the leadership of all three Alliances.

    I assumed based on the quest lines content for Mages Guild (leading to Eyevea) and the basic Alliance storyline (leading to Coldharbor) that they would be cross-faction until I actually got there. Craglorn also makes sense for cross-faction. I am guessing that the Alliance specific phasing for various zones might have something to do with having to many players in the same phase at once. That's why I figured a new zone with different "campaigns" like Cyro but with a cross-faction threat might work better.
    Edited by tinythinker on January 16, 2015 12:47PM
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  • Lord_Kreegan
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    No
    PvP needs to be fixed, but making a doppleganger zone isn't the solution.

    It's a netcode problem, not Bambi and friends. Maybe they should abandon their megaserver concept and turn every keep into its own little shard with a limit of maybe 50 players from each side at a time; then their current netcode might be able to handle the workload.
  • TehMagnus
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    No
    Must recognize the effort, this time it's no longer "QQ, we want PVE Cyrodill, QQ, we don't want to be killed by mean PVPers while we quest and recover skyshards".

    They do need to fix performance in PVP.

    But still, NO.


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    Edited by TehMagnus on January 16, 2015 12:33PM
  • Tapio75
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    TehMagnus wrote: »
    Must recognize the effort, this time it's no longer "QQ, we want PVE Cyrodill, QQ, we don't want to be killed by mean PVPers while we quest and recover skyshards".

    They do need to fix performance in PVP.

    But still, NO.


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  • AngryNord
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    Yes
    dharbert wrote: »
    Cyrodiil already has tons of PvE content. Delves, dolmens, quests, skyshards.....

    And if you actually try to get someone to team up for it, the answer you'll get will 9 out of 10 times be "this is a PvP zone, go away"
  • Lorkhan
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    No
    but.... this is a pvp zone, so, please, go away
  • Dominoid
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    Your poll is flawed as you demand the reader accept your presupposition that Cyrodiil is losing life, which statistically it is not. It is stale, but it's been busier than ever over the last month.
  • tinythinker
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    dharbert wrote: »
    Cyrodiil already has tons of PvE content. Delves, dolmens, quests, skyshards.....

    And if you actually try to get someone to team up for it, the answer you'll get will 9 out of 10 times be "this is a PvP zone, go away"

    Which is why it is best to group up before hand. And I have seen advertisements in zone for PvE groups, even joined one such group to help them out.
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  • McDoogs
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    Are they modifying the AOE cap in 1.6? That will bring much better gameplay back into Cyrodiil.
  • TheShadowScout
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    No
    Not even a PvE lover like me thinks this could be a good idea...

    Sure, I like doing PvE dailies in cyrodil whenever I need some extra expees. But I love the feeling of danger I get while doing it because some smurf or chicken -could- pop up and stomp me... which occasionally happens.

    And whenever I am in cyrodil, if there is a good siege going on, I always have the choice to stop by for a looksee, if its still going on by the time I get there, yay, join in, do some damage, respawn, curse dragonknights, and ride towards the fray again. ;)

    What _I_ would want it opening up more of the cyrodil we knew in oblivion for ESO... colovian highlands to gold coast, nibenay to blackwood... perhaps even as mixed PvE/PvP regions, with a questline and dailies around the PvP...
    ...maybe some future expansion... :)
  • tinythinker
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    No
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Are they modifying the AOE cap in 1.6? That will bring much better gameplay back into Cyrodiil.

    Yes...

    "The first six targets will take full damage and be subjected to special effects imposed by the skill like crowd control or debuffs. The next 16 targets, 7-24 will take half damage, and remaining targets up to a maximum of 60 will take 25% of the original damage."
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