How many EP does it take to get their scroll back from AD ?

Grim13 · January 2015

Nikel to Ash has been my greatest source of joy, lately. Fantastic battles.

Cody · January 2015

roechacca wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

I guess there are ppl that still think the scoreboard reflects skill level..... the scoring in this game is a terrible measure of skill in this game... whether your AD, DC, EP if you really think that the scoring reflects the skill lvls of players in the alliance i would have to say you are dead wrong...

Just saying

DK Scrub out

No but it does show Organization level . Commitment level to ones faction and strategy . Just like I'm not gonna deny someone that has individual skill , I'm also not gonna deny a faction that works well together . Just like in the Military and real war a squad leader could care less how much personal talent you have if you can't work with a team and be combat effective .

I begin reading your statement, then I think of all the people that wait until their opponents log off and PvDoor everything....

Lord_Draevan · January 2015

Observant wrote: »

I love the fact that people think their faction is perfect and all others exploit.

The only thing different between EP, AD, and DC within Cyrodiil is what corner of the map your wayshrines are on.

This.
Each faction has its exploiters, spammers, cheapskates and, opposingly, its good players.
Each faction has had days where they lost despite outnumbering the others, and days where they held off 5 times their own number.
Keep teeling yourselves your faction is the only one with good players and the others only with through exploits and zerging

Manoekin · January 2015

LonePirate wrote: »

So I logged in this morning over breakfast to grab mail from the hirelings and I see EP simultaneously attacking Alessia and Faregyl. Alessia fell rather quickly but AD managed to hold out for a little while at Faregyl before losing both the scroll and the keep. EP then returned the scroll to its rightful place in the Ghartok temple. All three factions were at 2 bars for the entirety of these events. I was not involved in either of these battles this morning so I cannot provide any further details. I wouldn't be surprised if AD claims they were outnumbered 50 to 1 or some other similar nonsense to justify this morning's developments.

I wonder if EP can grab an AD scroll or two this morning if this 2 bar vs. 2 bar vs. 2 bar battle continues like it has during the past 30 minutes or so.

All three factions being at 2 bars means there is a very large possibility that the population is actually unbalanced... Certainly more balanced than 1v2 and whatnot, but you still have the difference. You have a really bad argument.

Lord_Draevan · January 2015

Manoekin wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

So I logged in this morning over breakfast to grab mail from the hirelings and I see EP simultaneously attacking Alessia and Faregyl. Alessia fell rather quickly but AD managed to hold out for a little while at Faregyl before losing both the scroll and the keep. EP then returned the scroll to its rightful place in the Ghartok temple. All three factions were at 2 bars for the entirety of these events. I was not involved in either of these battles this morning so I cannot provide any further details. I wouldn't be surprised if AD claims they were outnumbered 50 to 1 or some other similar nonsense to justify this morning's developments.

I wonder if EP can grab an AD scroll or two this morning if this 2 bar vs. 2 bar vs. 2 bar battle continues like it has during the past 30 minutes or so.

All three factions being at 2 bars means there is a very large possibility that the population is actually unbalanced... Certainly more balanced than 1v2 and whatnot, but you still have the difference. You have a really bad argument.

Yeah really, if 2 bars=100 to 300 players, 2 bars could very well be 101 players vs 299. Of course, if we actually knew what the bars represented we could tell, but ZOS never informed us...

sirston · January 2015

Manoekin wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

So I logged in this morning over breakfast to grab mail from the hirelings and I see EP simultaneously attacking Alessia and Faregyl. Alessia fell rather quickly but AD managed to hold out for a little while at Faregyl before losing both the scroll and the keep. EP then returned the scroll to its rightful place in the Ghartok temple. All three factions were at 2 bars for the entirety of these events. I was not involved in either of these battles this morning so I cannot provide any further details. I wouldn't be surprised if AD claims they were outnumbered 50 to 1 or some other similar nonsense to justify this morning's developments.

I wonder if EP can grab an AD scroll or two this morning if this 2 bar vs. 2 bar vs. 2 bar battle continues like it has during the past 30 minutes or so.

All three factions being at 2 bars means there is a very large possibility that the population is actually unbalanced... Certainly more balanced than 1v2 and whatnot, but you still have the difference. You have a really bad argument.

if you think for the slightest that EP and AD have anywhere the same number of players on by the representation of the bar's you are very mistaken the bar generally tell a population by how many are homed on the campagin minus that are off so if there are 1000 ep homed on thronblade you could have 150 on and it would say it is at 2 bars compared to AD who could have 300 homed and have 200 online would only count for 2 bar's. Zenimax system of bar's needs to be fixed to a number base such as 150 out of 1000 are online for ep and 200 out of 300 are online and ext.

for Dc that I didn't mention it's because there are like 100 DC homed on thornblade and maybe 30 are on at a given point.

Huntler · January 2015

sirston wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

So I logged in this morning over breakfast to grab mail from the hirelings and I see EP simultaneously attacking Alessia and Faregyl. Alessia fell rather quickly but AD managed to hold out for a little while at Faregyl before losing both the scroll and the keep. EP then returned the scroll to its rightful place in the Ghartok temple. All three factions were at 2 bars for the entirety of these events. I was not involved in either of these battles this morning so I cannot provide any further details. I wouldn't be surprised if AD claims they were outnumbered 50 to 1 or some other similar nonsense to justify this morning's developments.

I wonder if EP can grab an AD scroll or two this morning if this 2 bar vs. 2 bar vs. 2 bar battle continues like it has during the past 30 minutes or so.

All three factions being at 2 bars means there is a very large possibility that the population is actually unbalanced... Certainly more balanced than 1v2 and whatnot, but you still have the difference. You have a really bad argument.

if you think for the slightest that EP and AD have anywhere the same number of players on by the representation of the bar's you are very mistaken the bar generally tell a population by how many are homed on the campagin minus that are off so if there are 1000 ep homed on thronblade you could have 150 on and it would say it is at 2 bars compared to AD who could have 300 homed and have 200 online would only count for 2 bar's. Zenimax system of bar's needs to be fixed to a number base such as 150 out of 1000 are online for ep and 200 out of 300 are online and ext.

for Dc that I didn't mention it's because there are like 100 DC homed on thornblade and maybe 30 are on at a given point.

That.... that isn't how their bars work man... its not a proportion of who is homed there and logged in..... where in the hell did you even come up with that? That would allow different population caps which Zenimax has blatantly said is not true, the bars are representative of how many are in Cyrodiil, thats it (and Mano's point is each bar represents a wide range of numbers so equal bars != equal numbers).

Where you got your deluded system I have no flippin idea... crack? Zenimax have literally said what their bars mean and how the caps work.... they just won't tell us the number which in this case doesn't matter.

What you also didn't realize its your EP buddy that said 2 bars = 2 bars, Mano is pointing out that that isn't true... which you agree with, but then try to say Mano is wrong..... WHAT...

I just... I don't even.... sometimes people on these forums

Lord_Draevan · January 2015

Huntler wrote: »

That.... that isn't how their bars work man... its not a proportion of who is homed there and logged in..... where in the hell did you even come up with that? That would allow different population caps which Zenimax has blatantly said is not true, the bars are representative of how many are in Cyrodiil, thats it (and Mano's point is each bar represents a wide range of numbers so equal bars != equal numbers).

Where you got your deluded system I have no flippin idea... crack? Zenimax have literally said what their bars mean and how the caps work.... they just won't tell us the number which in this case doesn't matter.

What you also didn't realize its your EP buddy that said 2 bars = 2 bars, Mano is pointing out that that isn't true... which you agree with, but then try to say Mano is wrong..... WHAT...

I just... I don't even.... sometimes people on these forums

ZOS stated before the game launched that it was max of 600 people per faction (i.e, Locked=600 players in a faction), for a max of 1800 people per campaign. But that changed a few months later, and now I have no idea how many people Locked equals :P

Huntler · January 2015

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

That.... that isn't how their bars work man... its not a proportion of who is homed there and logged in..... where in the hell did you even come up with that? That would allow different population caps which Zenimax has blatantly said is not true, the bars are representative of how many are in Cyrodiil, thats it (and Mano's point is each bar represents a wide range of numbers so equal bars != equal numbers).

Where you got your deluded system I have no flippin idea... crack? Zenimax have literally said what their bars mean and how the caps work.... they just won't tell us the number which in this case doesn't matter.

What you also didn't realize its your EP buddy that said 2 bars = 2 bars, Mano is pointing out that that isn't true... which you agree with, but then try to say Mano is wrong..... WHAT...

I just... I don't even.... sometimes people on these forums

ZOS stated before the game launched that it was max of 600 people per faction (i.e, Locked=600 players in a faction), for a max of 1800 people per campaign. But that changed a few months later, and now I have no idea how many people Locked equals :P

I know there are no restrictions on homing a campaign, as for the pop caps, they have changed them several times and have not communicated out the new caps so we can only make estimations. Regardless, 2 bars for one faction isn't a proportional calculation between online/homed, its just a calculation of how many are live in Cyro.

Tripwyr · January 2015

Manoekin wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

So I logged in this morning over breakfast to grab mail from the hirelings and I see EP simultaneously attacking Alessia and Faregyl. Alessia fell rather quickly but AD managed to hold out for a little while at Faregyl before losing both the scroll and the keep. EP then returned the scroll to its rightful place in the Ghartok temple. All three factions were at 2 bars for the entirety of these events. I was not involved in either of these battles this morning so I cannot provide any further details. I wouldn't be surprised if AD claims they were outnumbered 50 to 1 or some other similar nonsense to justify this morning's developments.

I wonder if EP can grab an AD scroll or two this morning if this 2 bar vs. 2 bar vs. 2 bar battle continues like it has during the past 30 minutes or so.

All three factions being at 2 bars means there is a very large possibility that the population is actually unbalanced... Certainly more balanced than 1v2 and whatnot, but you still have the difference. You have a really bad argument.

Yep, just as Manoekin said, anything other than Lock is meaningless because it represents a very wide range of numbers. Lock means capped, which is always the same number.

When the factions are all locked, yellow dominates. Whenever the factions are not locked, EP pushes back on yellow.

Lord_Draevan · January 2015

Tripwyr wrote: »

When the factions are all locked, yellow dominates. Whenever the factions are not locked, EP pushes back on yellow.

I've seen each 3 factions in turn dominate and fail miserably when it's 3-way pop-locked... no single faction consistently wins during prime time.
Unless you're referring to the EU not NA, in which case ignore this post.

LonePirate · January 2015

Manoekin wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

So I logged in this morning over breakfast to grab mail from the hirelings and I see EP simultaneously attacking Alessia and Faregyl. Alessia fell rather quickly but AD managed to hold out for a little while at Faregyl before losing both the scroll and the keep. EP then returned the scroll to its rightful place in the Ghartok temple. All three factions were at 2 bars for the entirety of these events. I was not involved in either of these battles this morning so I cannot provide any further details. I wouldn't be surprised if AD claims they were outnumbered 50 to 1 or some other similar nonsense to justify this morning's developments.

I wonder if EP can grab an AD scroll or two this morning if this 2 bar vs. 2 bar vs. 2 bar battle continues like it has during the past 30 minutes or so.

All three factions being at 2 bars means there is a very large possibility that the population is actually unbalanced... Certainly more balanced than 1v2 and whatnot, but you still have the difference. You have a really bad argument.

What exactly was the argument I made there? Simply providing a factual recap of events without advocating any particular position does not constitute an argument. Then again, critical thinking seems to be in short supply among the AD fanatics on this forum today.

It's not like EP was pop locked while fighting a token 1 bar force from AD this morning. I have no idea what sort of numbers were involved; but there is no large possibility that the populations were severely unbalanced (presumably in favor of EP from your perspective as you search for an excuse to explain away the loss).

Yes, it is a possibility just not a large one when compared to other likely possibilities. The factions could have sent equal numbers to those battles or maybe AD used everyone logged in against a smaller EP force diminished by some players doing other things.

Maybe AD needs to be pop locked before they can accomplish anything. That might be the only takeaway from this discussion.

Huntler · January 2015

LonePirate wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

So I logged in this morning over breakfast to grab mail from the hirelings and I see EP simultaneously attacking Alessia and Faregyl. Alessia fell rather quickly but AD managed to hold out for a little while at Faregyl before losing both the scroll and the keep. EP then returned the scroll to its rightful place in the Ghartok temple. All three factions were at 2 bars for the entirety of these events. I was not involved in either of these battles this morning so I cannot provide any further details. I wouldn't be surprised if AD claims they were outnumbered 50 to 1 or some other similar nonsense to justify this morning's developments.

I wonder if EP can grab an AD scroll or two this morning if this 2 bar vs. 2 bar vs. 2 bar battle continues like it has during the past 30 minutes or so.

All three factions being at 2 bars means there is a very large possibility that the population is actually unbalanced... Certainly more balanced than 1v2 and whatnot, but you still have the difference. You have a really bad argument.

What exactly was the argument I made there? Simply providing a factual recap of events without advocating any particular position does not constitute an argument. Then again, critical thinking seems to be in short supply among the AD fanatics on this forum today.

It's not like EP was pop locked while fighting a token 1 bar force from AD this morning. I have no idea what sort of numbers were involved; but there is no large possibility that the populations were severely unbalanced (presumably in favor of EP from your perspective as you search for an excuse to explain away the loss).

Yes, it is a possibility just not a large one when compared to other likely possibilities. The factions could have sent equal numbers to those battles or maybe AD used everyone logged in against a smaller EP force diminished by some players doing other things.

Maybe AD needs to be pop locked before they can accomplish anything. That might be the only takeaway from this discussion.

The takeaway is you're claiming a victory on basically non off hours where others are trying to respond with the only way to know for sure if things are even is during primetime fighting where everyone is poplocked and on even footing, any other time and you introduce extra factors that can have a huge variance on performance. Add in to the fact we have consistently seen higher populations in recent months during off hours on Red times, I do not think at all it is unfair to assume EP might have had an edge in terms of numbers here. All that coupled with we have to take your word on the two bars equal thing which... given how you talk I am not really inclined to believe. (My experience with you on these forums is lends me to make that conclusion, just reread your posts... they are ridiculous

)

frozywozy · January 2015

Based on my experience :

- max pop : between 151 and 200players
- 3bars : between 101 and 150players
- 2bars : between 51 and 100players
- 1bar : between 0 and 50players

LonePirate · January 2015

Huntler wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

So I logged in this morning over breakfast to grab mail from the hirelings and I see EP simultaneously attacking Alessia and Faregyl. Alessia fell rather quickly but AD managed to hold out for a little while at Faregyl before losing both the scroll and the keep. EP then returned the scroll to its rightful place in the Ghartok temple. All three factions were at 2 bars for the entirety of these events. I was not involved in either of these battles this morning so I cannot provide any further details. I wouldn't be surprised if AD claims they were outnumbered 50 to 1 or some other similar nonsense to justify this morning's developments.

I wonder if EP can grab an AD scroll or two this morning if this 2 bar vs. 2 bar vs. 2 bar battle continues like it has during the past 30 minutes or so.

All three factions being at 2 bars means there is a very large possibility that the population is actually unbalanced... Certainly more balanced than 1v2 and whatnot, but you still have the difference. You have a really bad argument.

What exactly was the argument I made there? Simply providing a factual recap of events without advocating any particular position does not constitute an argument. Then again, critical thinking seems to be in short supply among the AD fanatics on this forum today.

It's not like EP was pop locked while fighting a token 1 bar force from AD this morning. I have no idea what sort of numbers were involved; but there is no large possibility that the populations were severely unbalanced (presumably in favor of EP from your perspective as you search for an excuse to explain away the loss).

Yes, it is a possibility just not a large one when compared to other likely possibilities. The factions could have sent equal numbers to those battles or maybe AD used everyone logged in against a smaller EP force diminished by some players doing other things.

Maybe AD needs to be pop locked before they can accomplish anything. That might be the only takeaway from this discussion.

The takeaway is you're claiming a victory on basically non off hours where others are trying to respond with the only way to know for sure if things are even is during primetime fighting where everyone is poplocked and on even footing, any other time and you introduce extra factors that can have a huge variance on performance. Add in to the fact we have consistently seen higher populations in recent months during off hours on Red times, I do not think at all it is unfair to assume EP might have had an edge in terms of numbers here. All that coupled with we have to take your word on the two bars equal thing which... given how you talk I am not really inclined to believe. (My experience with you on these forums is lends me to make that conclusion, just reread your posts... they are ridiculous )

I am not surprised by that as reality undoubtedly does seem ridiculous to the delusional and fact-deprived members of AD.

I will see if I can persuade an EP group to capture Nikel tonight like they did a couple of times last week. That part of the map desperately needs to see some action for a change. A few level 10s is all that is needed for that task as AD and DC will be far to the north and east like usual.

Lord_Draevan · January 2015

Huntler wrote: »

Add in to the fact we have consistently seen higher populations in recent months during off hours on Red times, I do not think at all it is unfair to assume EP might have had an edge in terms of numbers here.

Funny story: those are 2 former AD guilds who rerolled EP a few months ago. No idea why they did, but those used to be nightcapping AD who're now nightcapping EP.
Though I have no problem with nightcapping, since night for me is day for others and I wouldn't ask them to log off for me :P

Joy_Division · January 2015

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Observant wrote: »

I love the fact that people think their faction is perfect and all others exploit.

The only thing different between EP, AD, and DC within Cyrodiil is what corner of the map your wayshrines are on.

This.
Each faction has its exploiters, spammers, cheapskates and, opposingly, its good players.
Each faction has had days where they lost despite outnumbering the others, and days where they held off 5 times their own number.
Keep teeling yourselves your faction is the only one with good players and the others only with through exploits and zerging

I can assure your the honorable Ebonheart Pact faction would never allow such riff raff to tarnish it's good name. We fight with honor, spirit, and perseverance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Tp-I7xNCA

Lord_Draevan · January 2015

Joy_Division wrote: »

I can assure your the honorable Ebonheart Pact faction would never allow such riff raff to tarnish it's good name. We fight with honor, spirit, and perseverance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Tp-I7xNCA

I'm at work and youtube is blocked, so I have no idea what you just posted

But as an EP, I know we have riff-raff just like DC and AD do :P

Huntler · January 2015

LonePirate wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

So I logged in this morning over breakfast to grab mail from the hirelings and I see EP simultaneously attacking Alessia and Faregyl. Alessia fell rather quickly but AD managed to hold out for a little while at Faregyl before losing both the scroll and the keep. EP then returned the scroll to its rightful place in the Ghartok temple. All three factions were at 2 bars for the entirety of these events. I was not involved in either of these battles this morning so I cannot provide any further details. I wouldn't be surprised if AD claims they were outnumbered 50 to 1 or some other similar nonsense to justify this morning's developments.

I wonder if EP can grab an AD scroll or two this morning if this 2 bar vs. 2 bar vs. 2 bar battle continues like it has during the past 30 minutes or so.

All three factions being at 2 bars means there is a very large possibility that the population is actually unbalanced... Certainly more balanced than 1v2 and whatnot, but you still have the difference. You have a really bad argument.

What exactly was the argument I made there? Simply providing a factual recap of events without advocating any particular position does not constitute an argument. Then again, critical thinking seems to be in short supply among the AD fanatics on this forum today.

It's not like EP was pop locked while fighting a token 1 bar force from AD this morning. I have no idea what sort of numbers were involved; but there is no large possibility that the populations were severely unbalanced (presumably in favor of EP from your perspective as you search for an excuse to explain away the loss).

Yes, it is a possibility just not a large one when compared to other likely possibilities. The factions could have sent equal numbers to those battles or maybe AD used everyone logged in against a smaller EP force diminished by some players doing other things.

Maybe AD needs to be pop locked before they can accomplish anything. That might be the only takeaway from this discussion.

The takeaway is you're claiming a victory on basically non off hours where others are trying to respond with the only way to know for sure if things are even is during primetime fighting where everyone is poplocked and on even footing, any other time and you introduce extra factors that can have a huge variance on performance. Add in to the fact we have consistently seen higher populations in recent months during off hours on Red times, I do not think at all it is unfair to assume EP might have had an edge in terms of numbers here. All that coupled with we have to take your word on the two bars equal thing which... given how you talk I am not really inclined to believe. (My experience with you on these forums is lends me to make that conclusion, just reread your posts... they are ridiculous )

I am not surprised by that as reality undoubtedly does seem ridiculous to the delusional and fact-deprived members of AD.

I will see if I can persuade an EP group to capture Nikel tonight like they did a couple of times last week. That part of the map desperately needs to see some action for a change. A few level 10s is all that is needed for that task as AD and DC will be far to the north and east like usual.

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

Add in to the fact we have consistently seen higher populations in recent months during off hours on Red times, I do not think at all it is unfair to assume EP might have had an edge in terms of numbers here.

Funny story: those are 2 former AD guilds who rerolled EP a few months ago. No idea why they did, but those used to be nightcapping AD who're now nightcapping EP.
Though I have no problem with nightcapping, since night for me is day for others and I wouldn't ask them to log off for me :P

Yup, they are your problem now

, I am not against night capping either. If thats when you wanna play, good for you, I just meant by my post to point to historical data as why I was making certain assertions.

Lord_Draevan · January 2015

Huntler wrote: »

Yup, they are your problem now , I am not against night capping either. If thats when you wanna play, good for you, I just meant by my post to point to historical data as why I was making certain assertions.

Though nightcapping can get a bit ridiculous and times...

This was back when locked=600 players

Gorthax · January 2015

Layenem wrote: »

LMFAO this coming from the yellow swarm who sends over 100+ to a buff server to roll over 20... STILL have no strategy, still using the zerg technique. Kind of sad. It's your faction in a nutshell.

And EP doesnt use the DK+Sword and board+ulti spam permablockcast zerg tactic EVERY time? Man I must be playing a way different game lol

Roechacca · January 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

Based on my experience :

- max pop : between 151 and 200players
- 3bars : between 101 and 150players
- 2bars : between 51 and 100players
- 1bar : between 0 and 50players

So where in blazes of Oblivion are the 200 DC players during pop lockouts then ?

LonePirate · January 2015

roechacca wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Based on my experience :

- max pop : between 151 and 200players
- 3bars : between 101 and 150players
- 2bars : between 51 and 100players
- 1bar : between 0 and 50players

So where in blazes of Oblivion are the 200 DC players during pop lockouts then ?

Probably questing or role playing with the same number of missing members of EP.

Grim13 · January 2015

roechacca wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Based on my experience :

- max pop : between 151 and 200players
- 3bars : between 101 and 150players
- 2bars : between 51 and 100players
- 1bar : between 0 and 50players

So where in blazes of Oblivion are the 200 DC players during pop lockouts then ?

E R P

Don't ask, don't tell.

Roechacca · January 2015

Grim13 wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Based on my experience :

- max pop : between 151 and 200players
- 3bars : between 101 and 150players
- 2bars : between 51 and 100players
- 1bar : between 0 and 50players

So where in blazes of Oblivion are the 200 DC players during pop lockouts then ?

E R P

Don't ask, don't tell.

I just can't believe its that many . Honestly on the DC side I'm lucky to see 75 people actively engaging combat hot spots .

Roechacca · January 2015

I once seen two full raids go to Chalman together and I wondered for a minute if the game went F2P or something .

LonePirate · January 2015

roechacca wrote: »

I once seen two full raids go to Chalman together and I wondered for a minute if the game went F2P or something .

Chalman and any location east of Aleswell is a good place to find DC during prime time. You don't need to waste your time by searching south of Glade.

Roechacca · January 2015

LonePirate wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

I once seen two full raids go to Chalman together and I wondered for a minute if the game went F2P or something .

Chalman and any location east of Aleswell is a good place to find DC during prime time. You don't need to waste your time by searching south of Glade.

I know where most people are . I just honestly don't think there's 200 of them any where in Cyrodiil at any time . Maybe 100 but not 200

Manoekin · January 2015

LonePirate wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

I once seen two full raids go to Chalman together and I wondered for a minute if the game went F2P or something .

Chalman and any location east of Aleswell is a good place to find DC during prime time. You don't need to waste your time by searching south of Glade.

This is not correct. Nikel and Brindle flip ownership more often than any outpost/keep on the map, I would guess, unless AD decides to actually defend them. When EP pushes AD back during primetime it's because the AD guilds are too busy getting d ticks at Nikel from constant waves of 50+ DC running to their deaths.

Kraven · January 2015

Gorthax wrote: »

And EP doesnt use the DK+Sword and board+ulti spam permablockcast zerg tactic EVERY time? Man I must be playing a way different game lol

So I watched a three way battle, from my position of being a corpse. Every faction has a ton of people who rolled DK as FotM for pvp. See flappity-flap spammed by all three sides and shield charge used by all three sides. Even get tells from DKs in AD who die to my NB, complaining that everyone is against DKs and that's why they're getting changed...All three sides have their pulsar spamming zergs.

But I am EP so as such EP is the only ones I've been in a group of 10-15 players and broken 50+ zergs of AD. I'm not saying AD doesn't have good players and I will definitely never say EP is full of good players. But my experience? AD zergs fold like a pair of deuces against a full boat. EP may have some that exploit, but AD is the only ones I've watched glitch through closed doors and take scrolls from 100% intact keeps.