Tankqull wrote: »

Rescorla_ESO wrote: »

Since TESO's action bar and weapon swap design were influenced by GW2's design, I would be perfectly fine with ZOS just outright 100% copying it.

that doesent work either, with my chars i would be totally screwed that way as i´m only useing 1-2 weapon skills at all on my chars...

Well I'm also only using 1-2 weapon skills per bar now because of the constraint of only have 5 available slots. How would giving you access to all five of your weapon abilities screw you over?

Soulborn_Solitude wrote: »

So many skills....but not enough slots, I want to have a diverse style afterall..more skills i would like to use frequently with one another, unable to set up a beginning middle end combo, doesn't it disappoint when you realize your leveling the wrong types of skills, I can't plan my set up on the short bus that's all..

The system does not have to bend and change, the individual does. It is what it is, and diversity in style would actually be diminished by increasing skill slots. Personally I think there's nothing wrong with it at the moment in relation to the number of skill slots we have on our hot bar/s.

I don't believe there is really such a thing as 'leveling up the wrong type of skill'. You do what you think is best at the time, and when/if you want to change you have many options in-game these days to do so. It's really very easy to choose and start using new skills, it just takes time. But time =? difficulty.

Dracane wrote: »

This is the main problem for me. You can't build an efficient build, with only 10 slots. Especially as a Sorcerer, where many of your skills need 1 slot on each bar to be efficient.

I think, 6 slots on each bar would help a lot. So 12 slots total.

True. Nothing more taxing then having two summon pets, bound armor and mage light on each bar just to keep them up.

Should only be required on one bar. Pet dies you switch out to summon it.

6 bars would be sufficient I think

All the skills i loved while leveling up but now cannot use because i run the awesome build i love so much chainpulling firebreathing crushing shocking standard stacking..

RIP

Pulsar i miss you so much...( for real i was so happy when i unlocked it)

Harness magica
Lava whip/ flame lash ( loved the little jump and the healing)
Burning talons ( omfg so op after running bow for weeks)
Devouring swarm ( come to me babies ! )
Draw essense
Destructive clench ( never forget the moment i accidently discovered the knockback)
Weakness to elements

I guess having to miss all these skills on my bar is cool, compared to maxing out my healing and investing 20 skillpoints in it, only to accept nobody wants a dk healer in a vet dungeon lol

RIP all the same

Volla wrote: »

ex : wow players ... suck

Never played WOW beyond the first free 20 levels. Did play DAoC with 10 ability slots that were switchable with up to 4 different bars! That meant we had 40 abilities available with the flick of a new bar! We had abilities with actual follow up abilities that did devastating damage if you followed up the first ability correctly! Melee users had up to 3 actions with a main and 2 follow ups that could really wreak havok so 10 slots was a must for having at least 3 main attacks. So, please, stop spouting the WOW players ad homonym attacks. They're neither helpful or productive.

RSram wrote: »

I think five skills per bar is fine, but I like to see all the skills persistence between weapon swapping, so you don't waste 2 slots with certain abilities.

The only skill that shouldn't be persistence across weapon swaps would be the Ultimate's. You could still swap weapons after dropping an ultimate, but you couldn't activate the second ultimate until the previous one cooled down.

Especially class skills or any summons! Why should a summon de-spawn when you change your weapons? Explain the thinking behind this one? When I summon my Undaunted Blood Font and swap weapons, the blood font doesn't disappear! Why should my pets or summoned armor disappear?

The problem is the insane number of abilities that require 2 slots. This affects certain classes much more than others. For example, reflective scales and spiked armor get to share a slot for dk, while bound + lightening armor needs 3 for sorcs. Pet damage in the new patch will take 3 slots, 2 for a single pet and one for the curse. Dks main damage spam takes 1 slot. Add magelight for pve crit and pve detection and the sorc is down to 2 abilities. Two. Even using 2 slots for magelight the dk still has 5 left, with magelight, 2 different armor buffs, and a damage spam. Sorc has 2. Two is not enough.

People must not forget that not every ESO player is from the MMO corner. I did play LOTRO and liked the world but not the grind and feeling of the fights. I love games like skyrim, fallout, masseffect. ESO is for me a game that made the right mix. I don't mind to learn some MMO skills. And you have to think about your build and what you put on your bar and rotation. It is difficult to choise somethimes because i like so much of the options. But in a fight i like that the choises are limited. So i can doge and block and feel immersed in the game. Watching or focussing only on my rotation with 10 opions is not my way of playing.