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Why is ESO making light attack " weaving " so important ?
Joejudas
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I get high and effective DPS without doing light attacks ? Why the emphasis in 1.6 on light attacks. It just seems silly to me.
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PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
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No, you do not.I get high and effective DPS without doing light attacks ? Why the emphasis in 1.6 on light attacks. It just seems silly to me.
Edited by PBpsy on January 11, 2015 4:13AMESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)21 -
Joejudas✭✭✭✭✭My Stam build does 1600 to 1700 single target....So yes I do. Thanks though for not adding anything insightful.16
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✭✭✭My Stam build does 1600 to 1700 single target....So yes I do. Thanks though for not adding anything insightful.
Now you are just full of <snip>.Thanks for being full of <snip>. We need more like you around here.Edited by PBpsy on January 11, 2015 4:17AMESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)10 -
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✭✭✭Light/medium/heavy attack weaving is the only way to get good sustained ( few minutes) single target dps in end game content.This is true for all good dps builds both magicka and stamina. ZOS has observed this ,has decided that it is not worth or possible to change this mechanic then they decided they will embrace it.Edited by PBpsy on January 11, 2015 4:26AMESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)13 -
Joejudas✭✭✭✭✭Ok well one of the best Stam dps builds in my guild only uses skills and gets 1700 to 1800 dps single target. It seems like unnecessary work to me to " weave " in stuff like light attacks.Edited by Joejudas on January 11, 2015 4:32AM10
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✭✭✭Ok well one of the best dps builds in my guild only uses skills and gets 1700 to 1800 dps single target. It seems like unnecessary work to me to " weave " in stuff like light attacks.
For how many seconds. No I certainly do not believe that any build not using some form of weaving get 1.7k dps for more than 5 seconds. Good dps is 1k+ for a few minutes.
Also for some builds and classes weaving was pretty much implied from the start. I used weaving form the start form my NB before I knew it was a thing.It is the thing you do to proc weapon enchants and Siphoning attacksEdited by PBpsy on January 11, 2015 4:37AMESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)9 -
Joejudas✭✭✭✭✭Anyways I'll wait for someone else to post an answer to my question. Someone who isn't just trying to be disruptive.13
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✭✭✭Ok, have fun discussing stuff with people that find pressing mouse buttons after keys something difficult or requiring too much effort.ESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)12 -
LegacyDM✭✭✭✭✭
✭I get high and effective DPS without doing light attacks ? Why the emphasis in 1.6 on light attacks. It just seems silly to me.
For high end DPS, Its a forced mechanic or else you will run out of magicka or stamina (depending on build). Neither can be sustained without some form of weaving.
If your claiming to get sustained high end DPS without weaving your either confused or lying.Edited by LegacyDM on January 11, 2015 6:19AMLegacy of Kain
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✭✭✭✭✭Crushing shock would suck without light attack weaving. I could not imagine to go without light attackk waving in most good DPS builds.Edited by Dracane on January 11, 2015 6:18AMAuri-El is my lord,
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✭✭✭✭✭gingerkid1991b16_ESO wrote: »Why are ppl getting rude tho.... He's just asking a question......
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the poor guy, I was shocked either. Because yesterday, I also got attacked for simply asking a question about a statement from ZoS about the 70CP thing. Auri-El is my lord,
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AlayneStone✭✭✭gingerkid1991b16_ESO wrote: »Why are ppl getting rude tho.... He's just asking a question......
Yes the poor guy, I was shocked either. Because yesterday, I also got attacked for simply asking a question about a statement from ZoS about the 70CP thing.
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✭gingerkid1991b16_ESO wrote: »Why are ppl getting rude tho.... He's just asking a question......
Yes the poor guy, I was shocked either. Because yesterday, I also got attacked for simply asking a question about a statement from ZoS about the 70CP thing.
Because what he is claiming is simply not true. He is either getting High DPS with no sustainment (lying) or his idea of what DPS sustainment is, is completely wrong thus confused.Legacy of Kain
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✭✭✭✭✭joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »
Because what he is claiming is simply not true. He is either getting High DPS with no sustainment (lying) or his idea of what DPS sustainment is, is completely wrong thus confused.
I know and I agree, this whole topic is pointless and simply not true. But this does not justify being rude.
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AlayneStone✭✭✭joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »
Because what he is claiming is simply not true. He is either getting High DPS with no sustainment (lying) or his idea of what DPS sustainment is, is completely wrong thus confused.
I know and I agree, this whole topic is pointless and simply not true. But this does not justify being rude.
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✭joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »
Because what he is claiming is simply not true. He is either getting High DPS with no sustainment (lying) or his idea of what DPS sustainment is, is completely wrong thus confused.
I know and I agree, this whole topic is pointless and simply not true. But this does not justify being rude.
I agree no need for rudeness. Well, unfortunately, humans tend to get frustrated when people either lie or are easily confused.Legacy of Kain
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✭gingerkid1991b16_ESO wrote: »Why are ppl getting rude tho.... He's just asking a question......
It's the self righteous keyboard commandos proving once again that civility has to take a back seat to their OCD. They're hijacking the thread and attacking the OP instead of having a civil conversation and addressing the question he asked.
But let's face it, this just wouldn't be a proper game forum without the hot headed, myopic vitriol.
The original post, since it seems lost upon people now:I get high and effective DPS without doing light attacks ? Why the emphasis in 1.6 on light attacks. It just seems silly to me.Edited by firstdecan on January 11, 2015 7:21AM8 -
Hi there I am weaving heavy attacks with my skills. Is this a no go too?
I built a bow/pet sorcerer and pushed all heavy damage skills and weaving with some instant weapon skills like posion arrow or silver shards. I never go out of stamina with this and never have any problems with veteran dungeons/quests but never did trials and I´m no PVPler.
Should I kick this style and go for light attacks instead? how much more damage will I achieve then?1 -
a lot of players new to MMOS do not realize that DPS is not just a number without relevance to the situation. they regularly post numbers form AOE situations for 5.2 sec fights ( burst dps ) . what most don't understand and for those that do not know, when talking about DPS, the number is traditionally measured by and assumed to be damage done over the course of over a few minutes ( Substained DPS) on a single target. I can do over 6k dps on the dwarven constructs before the last boss in Darkshade Cavern, but that is NOT my "DPS" and I don't tell people that's my DPS. I can do around 1k dps sometimes more on most single target boss fights that last anywhere from 4-9 minutes. when someone asks me my DPS I say around 1k cuz even then, there are variables making my dps higher or lower on any given fight. I hope this helps some people when being asked what their dps is.
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Circuitous✭✭✭✭✭'Cuz weaving is fun.Ｔｈａｎｋ Ｓｔｅｎｄａｒｒ ｉｔ’ｓ Ｆｒｅｄａｓ．
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seanvwolf✭✭✭✭I get high and effective DPS without doing light attacks ? Why the emphasis in 1.6 on light attacks. It just seems silly to me.
I very rarely do light attacks, but I will weave a heavy attack to restore stamina in between skills. It's the only way to sustain my dps for longer than about 30 seconds.
There are some builds and gear sets which benefit most from weaving lots of light attacks currently (no need to wait for 1.6) due to skill and weapon enchant procs.
@PBpsy Actually I can pull my highest single-target DPS (high damage, low cost skills) for 15 seconds with just white non-set gear and about 30 seconds with specific gear in mind, and most fights end in that time. If you can keep a DPS sustained for about a minute and a half with a specific rotation, then you can almost be assured that you can maintain that DPS indefinitely.Edited by seanvwolf on January 11, 2015 8:01AM0 -
NadiusMaximus✭✭✭✭✭Because button mashing is called skill in this game unlike any other besides the original mortal kombat.
Effective dps is not the goal of the min/max ocd 24/7 crowd, which has caused more problems for this game than they an imagine.10 -
kongkim✭✭✭✭✭If we look away from the numbers a little, Light and Heavy attacks are a huge part of their combat system. Its not that wird that they like people to use it.1 -
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✭NadiusMaximus wrote: »Because button mashing is called skill in this game unlike any other besides the original mortal kombat.
Effective dps is not the goal of the min/max ocd 24/7 crowd, which has caused more problems for this game than they an imagine.
It is by no means "button mashing". Not anymore than pulling off long sustained combos in a fighting game like SF or MK is.
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Milf_Hero✭✭✭Anyways I'll wait for someone else to post an answer to my question. Someone who isn't just trying to be disruptive.
I would like to see a video of you doing this. 1.7k dps. Like others have said, is this for 5 seconds? Or for sustained damage. How do you do in end game content? What guild lets you just not weave like that? Casual? lol. Jk. or am I?
I do want to see a vid tho. please, blow away the current tactic that has existed since the beginning of ESO. I want my mind to be blown! SKY HIGH! freakin lay it on us @joejudas .
Also, just a quick observation, why ask about light weaving, if its something you do not use? Do you want som one to convince you to do it? Cuz then, there is the saying, you could lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. There for, you just shoot the horse and leave it to die. That f*ckin right.
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✭There's actually a possibility that attack weaving is removed in 1.6. We know it was not intentional and we know they have completely rebalanced combat. So you never know. It would be better for the game if it was removed. Then you would not get people thinking they are skilled just because they do it, it's easy when you get used to it, it's not skillful.11