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Done with PvP on NA Thornblade until ZOS addresses a problem
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Personal experience, son. No lag until a certain group of lagsploit spammers shows up. Like clockwork. They've bragged about it on these forums.
You've never provided proof for that. Always an excuse when I ask you.
I don't owe you anything. Every other DC knows this happens.2 -
Satiar✭✭✭✭✭
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Personal experience, son. No lag until a certain group of lagsploit spammers shows up. Like clockwork. They've bragged about it on these forums.
You've never provided proof for that. Always an excuse when I ask you.
I don't owe you anything. Every other DC knows this happens.
If you make accusations publically you absolutely owe us proof.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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I owe proof to ZOS, which I provided. I don't feel like getting a forum ban for naming and shaming. No thanks.
Personal experience, son. No lag until a certain group of lagsploit spammers shows up. Like clockwork. They've bragged about it on these forums.
You've never provided proof for that. Always an excuse when I ask you.
I don't owe you anything. Every other DC knows this happens.
If you make accusations publically you absolutely owe us proof.
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k2blader✭✭✭✭✭@roechacca, You're one of the few folks on this forum I enjoy reading because you have a healthy attitude/perspective about all this stuff, so if you are leaving you'll be missed. And I'm not even DC. :-D
In the AD group I was with last night we were talking a bit about the "crossing factions problem" you describe. I think most of us in the group also think it's a problem. I know I do. It's the main reason I got sick of Blackwater Blade, which was perhaps the most fun campaign at its inception, despite other people's ignorance/disdain about it. I believe it is still screwed up due to the faction-crossing issue.
It's just plain stupid for one account to be able to play 2 or more factions in the same campaign. A player should have to commit to one faction in a campaign period. To improve Cyrodiil enjoyment and "fairness," there isn't really any good reason for it to not be this way.
I think the only reason Zeni does not seem to be interested in changing it is because they think it would decrease subscriptions. However, losing the kinds of people who abuse the current system would better the game, and draw better people back.Disabling the grass may improve performance.5 -
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✭✭✭@roechacca, You're one of the few folks on this forum I enjoy reading because you have a healthy attitude/perspective about all this stuff, so if you are leaving you'll be missed. And I'm not even DC. :-D
In the AD group I was with last night we were talking a bit about the "crossing factions problem" you describe. I think most of us in the group also think it's a problem. I know I do. It's the main reason I got sick of Blackwater Blade, which was perhaps the most fun campaign at its inception, despite other people's ignorance/disdain about it. I believe it is still screwed up due to the faction-crossing issue.
It's just plain stupid for one account to be able to play 2 or more factions in the same campaign. A player should have to commit to one faction in a campaign period. To improve Cyrodiil enjoyment and "fairness," there isn't really any good reason for it to not be this way.
I think the only reason Zeni does not seem to be interested in changing it is because they think it would decrease subscriptions. However, losing the kinds of people who abuse the current system would better the game, and draw better people back.
Hey thanks . I agree . ZOS really needs to to step it up here . There's just too many things that can go wrong with scrolls apart of this PvP system and Emperorship to just allow free cross faction passage .0 -
AryaWythers✭✭✭Princess_Asgari wrote: »
Pretty sure you can't guest there if it's your home....only tried it where I have my main guested to Thorn and couldn't home or guest on my other toon. And traveling to player only works if server isn't full.
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Satiar✭✭✭✭✭
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I owe proof to ZOS, which I provided. I don't feel like getting a forum ban for naming and shaming. No thanks.
Personal experience, son. No lag until a certain group of lagsploit spammers shows up. Like clockwork. They've bragged about it on these forums.
You've never provided proof for that. Always an excuse when I ask you.
I don't owe you anything. Every other DC knows this happens.
If you make accusations publically you absolutely owe us proof.
It's not a hard concept. If you cant back it up on the forums leave it off the forums. Report it and leave it, or else please provide some sort of substance.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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Vorpan✭✭✭If one person cannot have multiple alliance characters home and/or guest in the same campaign, then they really should remove the ability to travel to another player. It's silly that people can still do that.
Removing that ability would solve the problem the OP mentioned.
Otherwise just let us home whatever character we want, where we want. Regardless of alliance.0 -
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I owe proof to ZOS, which I provided. I don't feel like getting a forum ban for naming and shaming. No thanks.
Personal experience, son. No lag until a certain group of lagsploit spammers shows up. Like clockwork. They've bragged about it on these forums.
You've never provided proof for that. Always an excuse when I ask you.
I don't owe you anything. Every other DC knows this happens.
If you make accusations publically you absolutely owe us proof.
It's not a hard concept. If you cant back it up on the forums leave it off the forums. Report it and leave it, or else please provide some sort of substance.
At this point you're trolling . People can discuss this on the forums without getting banned . The real question now is , if it has nothing to do with you , why be so defensive ?0 -
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I owe proof to ZOS, which I provided. I don't feel like getting a forum ban for naming and shaming. No thanks.
Personal experience, son. No lag until a certain group of lagsploit spammers shows up. Like clockwork. They've bragged about it on these forums.
You've never provided proof for that. Always an excuse when I ask you.
I don't owe you anything. Every other DC knows this happens.
If you make accusations publically you absolutely owe us proof.
It's not a hard concept. If you cant back it up on the forums leave it off the forums. Report it and leave it, or else please provide some sort of substance.
At this point you're trolling . People can discuss this on the forums without getting banned . The real question now is , if it has nothing to do with you , why be so defensive ?
I'm not trolling. I'm tired of people pointing fingers and not backing it up. I don't think that's particularly outlandish of me.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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✭✭✭It's really silly that a simple request for *any* kind of substantiation gets so much pushback.Edited by Satiar on January 9, 2015 10:07PMVehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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AryaWythers✭✭✭If one person cannot have multiple alliance characters home and/or guest in the same campaign, then they really should remove the ability to travel to another player. It's silly that people can still do that.
Removing that ability would solve the problem the OP mentioned.
Otherwise just let us home whatever character we want, where we want. Regardless of alliance.
When the game came out there were plenty of servers to choose from and PvP on many of them so you could have toons from multiple factions play PvP. But ZoS ignored the PvP'rs and so many left the game and now there is one server that can be called a constant PvP server, so that means people would never be able to play an alt in PvP.
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You can PM me without getting banned, as I have said many times.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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FluffiestOne✭✭✭✭He caught me. I'm actually fixate.Edited by FluffiestOne on January 9, 2015 10:37PMFluffy
Senior Fluffykins, Daggerfall Liberator of Haderus, Dragonknight.
Fliffers, Daggerfall Liberator of Hopesfire, Templar.
Prophet Fluffy of Death, Casual of the Dominion, Sorceror.
Nozdorumu The Timeless, Daggerfall. Dragon. Nightblade.
All my toon names are subject to change.
" Ignorance must be bliss because I can't imagine why anyone would live in it. " -Fluffy0 -
Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Just let ZOS do their job if any investigation needs to be done . If everyone starts PMing names it just becomes a fiasco and inhibits their investigation if they have in fact even started one .0 -
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✭Just let ZOS do their job if any investigation needs to be done . If everyone starts PMing names it just becomes a fiasco and inhibits their investigation if they have in fact even started one .
I'm reluctant to believe ZOS will even look into it. Problem is: it's one, possibly some, of the "elite" Guilds' members doing this... and I get the feeling they're terrified of driving them away.
While the rest of the player base bleeds away like an anemia sufferer battling a porcupine.0 -
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✭✭✭✭The travel to player mechanics has been royally screwing up PvP since release and the only action taken to alleviate it so far has been to localize PvP buffs to the campaign you current play in.
Time to remove Travel to player for Cyrodiil. It's another mechanic that sounds great on paper but instantly breaks when introduced to human beings.Edited by Lava_Croft on January 9, 2015 10:50PM0 -
Satiar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I'll leave it alone since no one wants to engage with it. I'd like to put forward that if it interests you enough to put it on the forums, likely other people will be equally interested and discuss the topic. If all you're going to give people is "trust me", why even put up a discussion? Just leads to bad feelings about accusations no one can confirm or defend against.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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✭✭✭Double postEdited by Satiar on January 10, 2015 12:23AMVehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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Goldie✭✭✭✭✭I cant have two chars on same campaign with different faction. I get an error if i try
The idiots are traveling to the campaigns by using "travel to player" bugs. Sometimes it doesn't even log them as having entered the campaign, which doesn't show them as part of the population bars.
@zos are there plans to address any of this?"Wood Elves aren't made of wood. Sea Elves aren't made of water. M'aiq still wonders about High Elves" - M'aiq the Liar3 -
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Personal experience, son. No lag until a certain group of lagsploit spammers shows up. Like clockwork. They've bragged about it on these forums.
You've never provided proof for that. Always an excuse when I ask you.
I have about 2 hours of video proof"Wood Elves aren't made of wood. Sea Elves aren't made of water. M'aiq still wonders about High Elves" - M'aiq the Liar1 -
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This claim has been made before and refuted by @ZOS_BrianWheeler. Using Travel to player does add to the campaign's population. (According to @ZOS_BrianWheeler.)I cant have two chars on same campaign with different faction. I get an error if i try
The idiots are traveling to the campaigns by using "travel to player" bugs. Sometimes it doesn't even log them as having entered the campaign, which doesn't show them as part of the population bars.
@zos are there plans to address any of this?
Naturally, this doesn't mean the mechanic isn't bad and makes people who have actually set a campaign as Home or Guest unable to play in it.
Edited by Lava_Croft on January 9, 2015 11:34PM0 -
Pancake-Tragedy✭✭✭✭✭Lava_Croft wrote: »
This claim has been made before and refuted by @ZOS_BrianWheeler. Using Travel to player does add to the campaign's population. (According to @ZOS_BrianWheeler.)I cant have two chars on same campaign with different faction. I get an error if i try
The idiots are traveling to the campaigns by using "travel to player" bugs. Sometimes it doesn't even log them as having entered the campaign, which doesn't show them as part of the population bars.
@zos are there plans to address any of this?
Naturally, this doesn't mean the mechanic isn't bad and makes people who have actually set a campaign as Home or Guest unable to play in it.
But it allows those players to travel to campaigns that they wouldn't otherwise be able to.
Example: I have a DC character homed on Thornblade. I can log into my AD character and travel to someone in my guild/group that is in Thornblade and by-pass the faction restrictions that I would get otherwise when trying to home or guess both of those characters to the same campaign.Pancake Tragedy - Sorcerer2 -
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Personal experience, son. No lag until a certain group of lagsploit spammers shows up. Like clockwork. They've bragged about it on these forums.
You've never provided proof for that. Always an excuse when I ask you.
I have about 2 hours of video proof
Hey, I'd love to see it. Though I somehow suspect it will be like last time, people building ulti misconstrued to be purposely lagging the server.
People just jump too fast to malice. I've been accused of spamming impulse/springs to lag people out and I've run a stamina build since 1.2, so I'm always skeptical of these claimsVehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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AryaWythers✭✭✭Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
This claim has been made before and refuted by @ZOS_BrianWheeler. Using Travel to player does add to the campaign's population. (According to @ZOS_BrianWheeler.)I cant have two chars on same campaign with different faction. I get an error if i try
The idiots are traveling to the campaigns by using "travel to player" bugs. Sometimes it doesn't even log them as having entered the campaign, which doesn't show them as part of the population bars.
@zos are there plans to address any of this?
Naturally, this doesn't mean the mechanic isn't bad and makes people who have actually set a campaign as Home or Guest unable to play in it.
But it allows those players to travel to campaigns that they wouldn't otherwise be able to.
Example: I have a DC character homed on Thornblade. I can log into my AD character and travel to someone in my guild/group that is in Thornblade and by-pass the faction restrictions that I would get otherwise when trying to home or guess both of those characters to the same campaign.
Yes but if they don't allow people to travel to other player then there wouldn't be any reason to play any faction but one for PvP since most of the time there is active PvP on only a single campaign...and would bring down the amount of people grinding other faction toons
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