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Buff Servers, Not Haderus?
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Cody✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭@ElfFromSpace you'll get no sympathy in these forums about this topic
the 2% of the pvpers who read or comment on these forums are mostly against the whole idea, right or wrong
they don't pve , they don't care about buffs, and they see this post as 'crying" about it, and they love that (nom nom tears nom nom)
they want to get that "tactical" warfare in against all your carebears
makes them feel tough/relevant
I have done every single PvE zone except craglorn, and have done every single vet dungeon save CoA, which I have yet to find a group for. the only major PvE thing I have yet to do is trials.(even with the trials, I managed to get a good way thru the AA trial, with a group where half of us were not even VR6, without PvP buffs; im sure a good coordinated high vet level group can do trials without PVP buffs)
I play a lot of PvP nowadays, but I do still do PvE to the sides every now and then.
I am against people wanting PVP buffs for PvE, because one does not need PvP buffs to do the PvE content; I know because I have done almost all of the current PvE content, with little-no PvP buffs; and I hate to see alliances claiming servers as their own personal buff servers, thereby ruining a large portion of PvP, over buffs they do not need.
this is why I am against PvP buffs in PvE. Feeling tough has nothing to do with it. I don't have to prove myself to any of the AD on had, or any of the EP or DC on had, or the game as a whole. I am concerned with the welfare of ESO's PvP. I could care less about how I appear to random people over the internet, whom I am likely to never even meet in real lifeEdited by Cody on January 2, 2015 7:35PM2 -
Columba✭✭✭✭✭
✭lol. we all shed innumerable tears for pve players who lose their ill gotten pvp buffs! hahahaha. I love buff servers. Periodically it's fun to go wreck a bunch of pve players.Edited by Columba on January 2, 2015 7:39PM2 -
Asgari✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.Formerly @Persian_Princess .. Now @Asgari
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Cody✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
....what?1 -
Darlgon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
Lol.. Zazeer sends me a group invite to AvA before my character forms up if he is online.Power level to CP160 in a week:
Where is the end game? You just played it.
Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
Where is new content? Sigh.1 -
thelordoffelines✭✭✭✭✭Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
Ooh damn if i were u id be expecting that ban to come in at any moment!0 -
Asgari✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭thelordoffelines wrote: »Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
Ooh damn if i were u id be expecting that ban to come in at any moment!Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
....what?
True story. The scroll battle cry! It's all it takes!
"Hey buddy some of us are trying to PvE here. Can you cut that *** out!!"
"Reported"
"You are banned, just watch"
"OMFG CAN YOU STOP"
I love scroll battle crys!!Formerly @Persian_Princess .. Now @Asgari
Princess Asgari | Sorc
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Akiija✭✭Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
If this ever happens again, please please screencap.
I don't even care if it's my own alliance! Such salty tears must be shared with all.
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Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Princess_Asgari wrote: »thelordoffelines wrote: »Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
Ooh damn if i were u id be expecting that ban to come in at any moment!Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
....what?
True story. The scroll battle cry! It's all it takes!
"Hey buddy some of us are trying to PvE here. Can you cut that *** out!!"
"Reported"
"You are banned, just watch"
"OMFG CAN YOU STOP"
I love scroll battle crys!!
Your joking . No way ... Cmon0 -
Asgari✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Princess_Asgari wrote: »thelordoffelines wrote: »Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
Ooh damn if i were u id be expecting that ban to come in at any moment!Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
....what?
True story. The scroll battle cry! It's all it takes!
"Hey buddy some of us are trying to PvE here. Can you cut that *** out!!"
"Reported"
"You are banned, just watch"
"OMFG CAN YOU STOP"
I love scroll battle crys!!
Your joking . No way ... Cmon
It may not seem funny to you but you haven't truly laughed until you grab an AD scroll on Haderus and proceed to pick it up and drop it a "few" times hahaFormerly @Persian_Princess .. Now @Asgari
Princess Asgari | Sorc
Asgari | NB
-Asgari | Stamplar
Ariana Kishi | DK | True Liberator of Haderus
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Psilent✭✭✭✭✭Princess_Asgari wrote: »Princess_Asgari wrote: »thelordoffelines wrote: »Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
Ooh damn if i were u id be expecting that ban to come in at any moment!Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
....what?
True story. The scroll battle cry! It's all it takes!
"Hey buddy some of us are trying to PvE here. Can you cut that *** out!!"
"Reported"
"You are banned, just watch"
"OMFG CAN YOU STOP"
I love scroll battle crys!!
Your joking . No way ... Cmon
It may not seem funny to you but you haven't truly laughed until you grab an AD scroll on Haderus and proceed to pick it up and drop it a "few" times haha
While this may seem like a joke, I have grabbed several scrolls on Haderus and have gotten tells like this. Usually it happens if I get ballsy and spam the scroll a couple times. Ariana spams the scroll like 100 times when she grabs it, so its probably 100 times worse!
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Agrippa_Invisus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Princess_Asgari wrote: »Princess_Asgari wrote: »thelordoffelines wrote: »Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
Ooh damn if i were u id be expecting that ban to come in at any moment!Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
....what?
True story. The scroll battle cry! It's all it takes!
"Hey buddy some of us are trying to PvE here. Can you cut that *** out!!"
"Reported"
"You are banned, just watch"
"OMFG CAN YOU STOP"
I love scroll battle crys!!
Your joking . No way ... Cmon
It may not seem funny to you but you haven't truly laughed until you grab an AD scroll on Haderus and proceed to pick it up and drop it a "few" times haha
I can confirm, through experience, that this is precisely what happens and the type of /tells you get.Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
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Asgari✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Princess_Asgari wrote: »Princess_Asgari wrote: »thelordoffelines wrote: »Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
Ooh damn if i were u id be expecting that ban to come in at any moment!Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
....what?
True story. The scroll battle cry! It's all it takes!
"Hey buddy some of us are trying to PvE here. Can you cut that *** out!!"
"Reported"
"You are banned, just watch"
"OMFG CAN YOU STOP"
I love scroll battle crys!!
Your joking . No way ... Cmon
It may not seem funny to you but you haven't truly laughed until you grab an AD scroll on Haderus and proceed to pick it up and drop it a "few" times haha
While this may seem like a joke, I have grabbed several scrolls on Haderus and have gotten tells like this. Usually it happens if I get ballsy and spam the scroll a couple times. Ariana spams the scroll like 100 times when she grabs it, so its probably 100 times worse!
The power of stealth pots and or spell sym .. Most powerful and truly wonderful.Formerly @Persian_Princess .. Now @Asgari
Princess Asgari | Sorc
Asgari | NB
-Asgari | Stamplar
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Tripwyr✭✭✭✭✭KaneK899ub17_ESO wrote: »
Law of unintended consequences. Just because people want it that way doesn't mean it was an intended mechanic. I haven't seen a ZOS post stating otherwise, but I doubt they were interested in having a bunch of dead campaigns monopolized by PvErs strictly for buffs.driosketch wrote: »
There is a "buff" mechanic, something that has already been removed cross campaign from PvP. "Buff servers" are a player invention. And frankly they are something I'd like to see go away.
Unintended mechanics becoming intended mechanics in video games is standard. See: Wave Dashing in Super Smash Brothers as a major example. This is called Emergent Gameplay, and is generally considered desirable from a game development standpoint.
Whether you guys like it or not, it is a mechanic until it is removed. Lack of intention from the developers does not mean it isn't a mechanic. If it is in the game, it is a mechanic.
You should also realize that they are adding more campaign buffs, not removing them. Enjoy Imperial City!Alacrity Founder | Forum Emperor
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Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »Princess_Asgari wrote: »Princess_Asgari wrote: »thelordoffelines wrote: »Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
Ooh damn if i were u id be expecting that ban to come in at any moment!Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
....what?
True story. The scroll battle cry! It's all it takes!
"Hey buddy some of us are trying to PvE here. Can you cut that *** out!!"
"Reported"
"You are banned, just watch"
"OMFG CAN YOU STOP"
I love scroll battle crys!!
Your joking . No way ... Cmon
It may not seem funny to you but you haven't truly laughed until you grab an AD scroll on Haderus and proceed to pick it up and drop it a "few" times haha
I can confirm, through experience, that this is precisely what happens and the type of /tells you get.
Mind boggling but ok lol1 -
AhPook_Is_Here✭✭✭✭✭
✭My first AA was 100% pug in zone. All it took was 1 person knowing what to do, and the rest following the leader. Thats all it takes for PvP too. Shoot you can even PvE bomb Cyrodiil just like a trial. Not joking, a lot of the big PvP raids looks like this in TS.
Ok every one stack on the crown
Going out in 3
2
1
Negate 1
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Negate 2
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Negate 3
...
Negate 4
...
Negate 5
.....
Is negate 1 back up?
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Yep
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Negate 1
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Negate 2
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You guys are doing it wrong, negate 1 is usually back up by negate 3. Negate 4 and 5 sit around wondering if they should bats.“Whatever.”
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Domander✭✭✭✭✭
✭Azura's star is a good example right now of what would happen if pvp buffs were to ever be removed. They are currently stuck.
It would be bad.
The buffs give an incentive for many players to jump into cyrodiil who otherwise would not care at all about it.
More players = better
and yeah, no faction can own a campaign, better defend it if you want your buffs
Fight on.Edited by Domander on January 3, 2015 3:15AM1 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »My first AA was 100% pug in zone. All it took was 1 person knowing what to do, and the rest following the leader. Thats all it takes for PvP too. Shoot you can even PvE bomb Cyrodiil just like a trial. Not joking, a lot of the big PvP raids looks like this in TS.
Ok every one stack on the crown
Going out in 3
2
1
Negate 1
...
Negate 2
...
Negate 3
...
Negate 4
...
Negate 5
.....
Is negate 1 back up?
...
Yep
...
Negate 1
...
Negate 2
...
You guys are doing it wrong, negate 1 is usually back up by negate 3. Negate 4 and 5 sit around wondering if they should bats.
My AA runs have all counted off Novas and only had 2-3 sorcs. I don't remember any bats. Most of my guild doesn't home on a buff server.Edited by Reverb on January 3, 2015 3:23AMBattle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche0 -
Hehe... the negate thing. Yub thats why me and my crew wipe those raids so much. They are geared for only one thing magic spammers. Skilled players that use non aoe/magicka spam burn right through negate.Astaria DødfurstinnaOfficial Hunter Community Lead DAOC(Pendragon Beta through Catacombs release)Look at this but dont QQ: http://pcpartpicker.com/b/hfxYcf0 -
Columba✭✭✭✭✭
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hahahahaha. nice.Princess_Asgari wrote: »I once pvp'd so hard i got tells from many players saying you are going to get banned for making us come pvp. True story.
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JamilaRaj✭✭✭✭✭
✭Azura's star is a good example right now of what would happen if pvp buffs were to ever be removed. They are currently stuck.
It would be bad.
The buffs give an incentive for many players to jump into cyrodiil who otherwise would not care at all about it.
More players = better
and yeah, no faction can own a campaign, better defend it if you want your buffs
Fight on.
Incentive to care about scrolls is not incentive to fight, these two objectives are mutually exclusive. The whole point of buff server is that scrolls stay put while PvE people...do their PvE; lopsided, dead campaign where even guesting emp farmers know how to behave and do not touch scrolls.0 -
AhPook_Is_Here✭✭✭✭✭
✭Edited by AhPook_Is_Here on January 3, 2015 5:50PM“Whatever.”
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Subtomik✭✭✭✭✭I remember when hova made us run hrc and aa to get the "right" white for no mercy.
We entered in, put on our serious faces and 20 minutes later realized the whole trial thing was a joke. Scripted encounters that involve no creativity, and no need to adapt.
The fact that you need these buffs is pathetic.5 -
Columba✭✭✭✭✭
✭I remember when hova made us run hrc and aa to get the "right" white for no mercy.
We entered in, put on our serious faces and 20 minutes later realized the whole trial thing was a joke. Scripted encounters that involve no creativity, and no need to adapt.
The fact that you need these buffs is pathetic.
yeah I never got into pve raid things. really boring and annoying.
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Cody✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I remember when hova made us run hrc and aa to get the "right" white for no mercy.
We entered in, put on our serious faces and 20 minutes later realized the whole trial thing was a joke. Scripted encounters that involve no creativity, and no need to adapt.
The fact that you need these buffs is pathetic.
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kewl✭✭✭✭✭
✭kpittsniperb14_ESO wrote: »We did however have a GM appear and warn us that we would be banned for player harassment if we continued to pick up and drop scrolls.
Please stop doing that. It's really annoying.2
