Vets..How many CP did you expect (ney demand) for your accumulated xp/vp thus far?

BRogueNZ · January 2015

Was going to poll-erise it but meh.

I'm v11 so I'm missing out on a fair chunk of xp gained to perhaps no avail.
I'm not really sure what I expected. I'm looking forward to the CP system.
Glad that I still have quests to do to continue earning xp/cp

Also.. I'm no mathematician but it seems to me if they effectively gave the players (with the highest xp gained since V1) the ability to cap their champion points, a fresh V1, comparatively, would still have a crazy long way to go to even get their first.

That's as much a question as a statement.

Also, if skill has anything to do with it, we have those that equate being max everything as being skilled, there are others who are just very good players.
Either way they should have nothing to fear about 1.6/7/8

Just thinking out loud.

redspecter23 · January 2015

This is going to be an extremely unpopular opinion, but I'll go ahead with it anyway. I didn't expect any CP when update 6 hits. Update 6 is adding the champion system but my xp (vet levels) aren't going anywhere yet.

What I would expect some compensation for is the removal of the vet levels which is happening later on.

I don't think it's a very good idea to implement half a system at a time and that's causing huge negative feedback from players and rightfully so. We can't judge or playtest half a system when we don't know what the other half looks like. That's like giving someone a car with no wheels and asking how smooth the test drive was.

DDuke · January 2015

If VR1=30, then VR14 should be 100~, considering it took roughly 3x the amount of time to get there.

Lukeh Shadyvale · January 2015

No idea. And that's the point.
Everyone rages about not having their deserved CP but they have absolutely NO clue about how much they would have gotten anyway.
It's annoying that V1s get the same as V14 totally understand but I imagine we will be reimbursed in the future just not now when it would totally unbalance the game.

Guppet · January 2015

It's supoesed to be 400k xp per cp, so 2.5 per vet level, but people seem to think that are entitled to far more than this.

Zorrashi · January 2015

By this point I would be happy for some sort of flat rate reward per VR level. No matter how slight.

Even if a VR1 gets 30CP and a VR 14 only get 44CP by comparison, I still think it would be better then giving 30CP to everybody.

I just want SOMETHING.

BRogueNZ · January 2015

DDuke wrote: »

If VR1=30, then VR14 should be 100~, considering it took roughly 3x the amount of time to get there.

I don't see it that way, I think it is just a number they figured was a good place to start for whatever reason.

Also, it is only 30CP if you have a vet character before the update.
When a players hits lvl50 in the future I don't think they will suddenly get 30CP.

thelordoffelines · January 2015

DDuke wrote: »

If VR1=30, then VR14 should be 100~, considering it took roughly 3x the amount of time to get there.

Actually v14 is 120. If one faction is 30, then 3 factions is 90. Then add 30 for the v10-v14 levels and u got 120!

Siluen · January 2015

I would quite like it if we would get to keep the skillpoint per level as opposed to those that didn't get to higher vet levels. Those would be 14 skillpoints nobody can ever obtain again after vet levels get scrapped, which would be a pretty cool boon imo.

Auricle · January 2015

This topic seems unnecessary, given the plethora of other threads for people to complain in. Let's all stop instigating conflict and just wait for the damn patch like the civilized monkeys we are.

BRogueNZ · January 2015

Auricle wrote: »

This topic seems unnecessary, given the plethora of other threads for people to complain in. Let's all stop instigating conflict and just wait for the damn patch like the civilized monkeys we are.

Put down your weapon if you wish for no conflict.

You walk in here dressed to kill and speak of peace.. and monkeys.. I say pfft tee yee.

Gyudan · January 2015

What we've heard so far:

1 Champion Point = 4 hours without enlightenment (1 hour with it)
1 Veteran level = 1,000,000 XP = 10 hours

Therefore 1 Veteran Rank = 2.5 Champion Points or 1 CP = 0.4 VR

1 VR14 = 35 CP
8 VR14 = 280 CP.

This doesn't include all the XP gained post-VR14 that was supposedly tracked.

@ZOS could figure out a cap that is fair for everyone.

Auricle · January 2015

BRogueNZ wrote: »

You walk in here dressed to kill and speak of peace.. and monkeys.. I say pfft tee yee.

You're right. The monkeys were too much.

Auricle wrote: »

Let's all stop instigating conflict and just wait for the damn patch like the civilized monkeys asparagus we are.

Better? Asparagus are the most peaceful of vegetables.

BRogueNZ · January 2015

Thanks for your diplomatic response
they have more brains than cabbages too

Pengeszikra · January 2015

..so i can really slow leveling to V14, much more time spend each Veteran lvl than 10 hour game play.

Muizer · January 2015

Up until today, everything else being equal, someone with one a single V14 was no weaker than someone with 8 V14s. So, there's a problem with compensation based on account-wide xp. It would create a strength difference where none existed before.

I'd still have expected some form of compensation, but rather based on the single highest level character. I think it would have been reasonable to introduce 1.6, monitor progression and then, based on findings, hand out some compensaton when Vet ranks are removed in 1.7.

I can understand they'd be conservative in doing so. As I've reasoned elsewhere, if, for some reason, they over-compensated people I think it would become much more complicated to restore balance later.

badmojo0777b14_ESO · January 2015

im willing to forgive the "recorded xp" fiasco, given that points are worth more now than originally conceived but as a long time vr 14 with months of progression I will not be rolled back to the same level as a brand new vr1 with no compensation. if ZOS wants VR14s to have 30 points, great, VR1s should prob get 2. if Vr1s get 30 then Vr14s better get that in multiples. we are only asking for the compensation we deserve for MANY more hours played and achieved progression. if this goes as planned ZOS has basically given the message to its serious gamers to NOT BOTHER trying, any progression you've earned can and will be taken away in the near future to bring us on par with less skilled players, or players with less time,. no thanks ZOS

hey guys I know its halftime and youre up by 20 points, but we decided to wipe the scoreboard to keep things interesting in the 2nd half. its now zero to zero, GOOD LUCK with that!

ZOS_AlanG · January 2015

We're happy to have people discussing the conversion to the Champion System, including how CPs will be distributed for existing characters. However, per the forum rules please do not post demands on the forums. This tends to make threads confrontational, and a number of posts in this thread toe the line of acceptability.

You are welcome to discuss this in a civil and constructive manner in the ongoing thread, or in a new thread providing it has a distinct topic and remains within the rules.