I guess it's hard for you pros to understand that a new player(to cyrodiil) who dies quickly, is still going to die quickly, even with more health. If you die instantly with 2k health, there's more to your problem than simply the amount of health.
Or are you guys saying you instantly lose 2k health the second you start fighting? lol
Yes you instantly can lose easily 2k health upon starting. When i was gank built my highest was 2.6k lethal arrow against moon die who i believe was a WW then and im a DK. NB's are even more deadly with a bow.
Its usually not the single hit that kills you its the 3 attacks hiting you at thw same time that i can almost guarantee will hit for more than 2k 90% of the time. Added: without blocking
Added: its not wrong to have less than 3k health... i see it on many great players however most of them are NB gank builds that are pure DPS. So if thats not you it would be wise to make sure you have more than 3k hp with some impen gear.
Just sayin.
-You need at least about 2.5K HP in Cyrodiil after food buffs (that's a bare minimum, most people run more).
-You should have a few pieces with the impenetrable trait on your armour so you don't get one shotted (a note on this as well is that your critical surge heals won't be all that effective because your critical chance is so low it's almost non-existent, remember most other pvpers will have impenetrable on as well).
-I don't recommend lowering damage output at all, if you have ever witnessed two tanks going at it with high damage mitigation and low damage output you'll realise just how boring those long fights are. Most of the time they won't be able to kill each other and you end in a stalemate or until someone crashes.
If you are really bored by the constant running, join a duelling guild and you can have some amazing fun without having to worry about getting smashed by multiple people at once. Better yet would be to support the push for an arena style pvp to be added.
Respecced a bit and I don't see how you can get that high in HP and I'm at V10. I already spent 40 attribute points in Health. And now I'm up to 1800-ish without food buffs. Rest 18 or so in Magicka. Most my gear have Stamina and Magicka buffs to not fall behind there. Both of them at around 1600-1700ish. (Don't remember exact numbers now) For me it's a mystery how people can have 3K HP and 2K in the other stats? How?? Even Set bonuses and/or mundus stones wouldn't bump me up to those levels...
Respecced a bit and I don't see how you can get that high in HP and I'm at V10. I already spent 40 attribute points in Health. And now I'm up to 1800-ish without food buffs. Rest 18 or so in Magicka. Most my gear have Stamina and Magicka buffs to not fall behind there. Both of them at around 1600-1700ish. (Don't remember exact numbers now) For me it's a mystery how people can have 3K HP and 2K in the other stats? How?? Even Set bonuses and/or mundus stones wouldn't bump me up to those levels...
Teargrants wrote: »Here, since OP is a Sorc, I added some minor corrections to your advice.GorraShatan wrote: »A few small things:
- the impenetrable trait helps a lot (this will matter less after 1.6)
- try to join a group, ideally one with TS. Decent groups are good at resurrecting each other.
You're a Sorc, solo derping is more fun. You will never learn to play your class to its limits if you only ever run in a group. Remember to bunny hop a lot.
- don't charge in too far ahead. People can't resurrect you if they can't get to you.
You're a Sorc blinky blink all the way, if you need rezes you're doing it wrong. Remember, you are as a god among men and all the world is a blur.
- food is your friend. Blue food for either HP/stam or HP/magicka appropriate to your level is a must. HP/stam is preferable.
You're a Sorc, if you aren't using tri stat food, you're doing it wrong.
- when in doubt, hold down block.
You're a Sorc, when in doubt, blinky blink. Also blinky blink when not in doubt. Just, never stop blinky blinking.
- "bash" your way out of stuns
You're a Sorc, blinky blink out of stuns.
- get a horse and feed it an apple every day. If ZOS was smart they'd let you buy a horse with AP, but yeah...
You're a Sorc, you have blinky blink. What's a horse again?
-make sure you have some skills on your bars for survivability. Damage shields, self heals, and skills to help you escape. Sometimes you don't need to win a fight, just survive long enough for your friends to show up, or at least get your body into a spot where they can res it.
You're a Sorc, you never need to win a fight. Your mission in life is to blinky blink through the fields and lead enemy raids back over your friends to get them (your friends) killed.
Hope that helps.
GorraShatan wrote: »Did someone pee in your coffee? Lol.
Putting more health into your build while learning is like learning to drive a race car with traction control, anti-lock breaks, anti-skid & all those other driver aids. You will have a hard time identifying where you are going wrong because the computer saves you all the time. It's the same with getting more health, you aren't going to know when you are doing the wrong things.
Do you really want that 1k health to be a crutch, or a benefit? You need to learn to walk, before you learn to run.
That's all I'm going to say.
Putting more health into your build while learning is like learning to drive a race car with traction control, anti-lock breaks, anti-skid & all those other driver aids. You will have a hard time identifying where you are going wrong because the computer saves you all the time. It's the same with getting more health, you aren't going to know when you are doing the wrong things.
Do you really want that 1k health to be a crutch, or a benefit? You need to learn to walk, before you learn to run.
That's all I'm going to say.
I'm guessing you have never driven a fast car lol.
I challenge you two to play for a few days with less than 2k health, you might learn a thing or two. Of course you'll just try to go 1 on 1 with a tank or something, then come back and tell me how stupid I am. But, if you actually embraced the challenge and adapted your game to it, I bet you'd be a better player when you got the health back.
Wrong on both counts, you need to switch to crit rush, and pray to Dee Tick for guidance. Do not follow AoeBBQ in his heathen ways.GorraShatan wrote: »Did someone pee in your coffee? Lol.
I would listen to teargrants, he makes me debate switching from invasion to toppling charge everytime I see him and knows what hes talking about.
Hes like ezareth except not a D
I challenge you two to play for a few days with less than 2k health, you might learn a thing or two. Of course you'll just try to go 1 on 1 with a tank or something, then come back and tell me how stupid I am. But, if you actually embraced the challenge and adapted your game to it, I bet you'd be a better player when you got the health back.
I'm not sure what to do first, teach you to drive or play eso.
Putting more health into your build while learning is like learning to drive a race car with traction control, anti-lock breaks, anti-skid & all those other driver aids. You will have a hard time identifying where you are going wrong because the computer saves you all the time. It's the same with getting more health, you aren't going to know when you are doing the wrong things.
Do you really want that 1k health to be a crutch, or a benefit? You need to learn to walk, before you learn to run.
That's all I'm going to say.
Teargrants wrote: »Wrong on both counts, you need to switch to crit rush, and pray to Dee Tick for guidance. Do not follow AoeBBQ in his heathen ways.
Also, Ezareth was better, I still haven't mastered his bunny hop technique which was the secret of his power.
I should have figured you guys would be too chicken*** to accept the challenge. You probably play all your games on the easiest difficulty too, and feel all good about winning.
Keep telling me I can't drive and play ESO, I love the ignorance.
I challenge you two to play for a few days with less than 2k health, you might learn a thing or two. Of course you'll just try to go 1 on 1 with a tank or something, then come back and tell me how stupid I am. But, if you actually embraced the challenge and adapted your game to it, I bet you'd be a better player when you got the health back.
What? What? What?
More health is always a good thing there is no downside to it, I wouldn't even consider going to cyrodiil with less then all attributes in health, since sift capping stamina/magic with enchants, gear, and food is so trival.
Having low health just makes you easier to kill period. Survivability should be first and foremost, the less you die the better.
What? What? What?
More health is always a good thing there is no downside to it, I wouldn't even consider going to cyrodiil with less then all attributes in health, since sift capping stamina/magic with enchants, gear, and food is so trival.
Having low health just makes you easier to kill period. Survivability should be first and foremost, the less you die the better.
Okay, and who would be better at survival?
A. A player who doesn't enter Cyrodiil with anything less than all attributes into health.
B. A player who learned to survive without going all into health, then respec'ed to get the extra health.
At the end of the day, both players have the same amount of health. The only difference in the end will be the skills they learned along the way.
What? What? What?
More health is always a good thing there is no downside to it, I wouldn't even consider going to cyrodiil with less then all attributes in health, since sift capping stamina/magic with enchants, gear, and food is so trival.
Having low health just makes you easier to kill period. Survivability should be first and foremost, the less you die the better.
Okay, and who would be better at survival?
A. A player who doesn't enter Cyrodiil with anything less than all attributes into health.
B. A player who learned to survive without going all into health, then respec'ed to get the extra health.
At the end of the day, both players have the same amount of health. The only difference in the end will be the skills they learned along the way.
I should have figured you guys would be too chicken*** to accept the challenge. You probably play all your games on the easiest difficulty too, and feel all good about winning.
Keep telling me I can't drive and play ESO, I love the ignorance.