If 30CP is the cap will you unsub?

Guppet · December 2014

No beating around the bush, no biased options, just getting to the bottom line.

bosmern_ESO · December 2014

No

No because I don't really care. I feel it would be better if everyone starts at an equal playing field and see where players branch out to.

I probably play more hours each day then the usual ESO player and I don't mind if i have more or equal CS with everyone else.

Xjcon · December 2014

If a leaf falls will you unsub?

Gilvoth · December 2014

No

no i wont unsub, but ...

thats like asking me if i caught my wife doing something i realy hate - would i divorce her- the answer is "no" but, over time when some one repeatedly does things antagonizingly and directly to hurt, annoy and / or harm me then i will eventually stay away from that person.

NordJitsu · December 2014

No

Xjcon wrote: »

If a leaf falls will you unsub?

If ZOS makes a comment in a video, and no one on the forums complains, does it make a sound?

HxC · December 2014

No

i will unsub when i get bored of the game.

There is no cap for champion points if everybody have the same amount of points

Rezzy64 · December 2014

No

It's one tiny minor annoyance that I'm pretty sure will be addressed in some fashion or another. Despite the fact that I'm on the beneficial side of the spectrum (I only have one veteran player and he's only a Vet 1), even if it was something that was to my disadvantage, I would simply brush it off and try to overcome it as a challenge in the game.
I personally think you guys get way to angry over this game. If you guys are getting this bothered and irritated over a game that is supposed to be fun and relaxing, then it probably would be smarter to unsubscribe and find something that doesn't cause you to get so angry.
No matter what game you play, none will be perfect to your standards, no matter what game you eventually turn to, there will always be compromise and adaptation.

deepseamk20b14_ESO · December 2014

No

No because that's not the cap? From my understanding you can get more CP by playing alts. Apparently you're able to max every constellation out, it just takes a very long time. As it should.

Gyudan · December 2014

Yes

Already did. This issue matters a lot to me.

"Oh boo stone this guy, he doesn't deserve anything else."

tinythinker · December 2014

No

That's a no. I managed to go from VR12.4 to VR14 mostly playing regular, non-awesome/grindy PvP for less than two weeks, so I figure there is plenty of XP for more CP. Plus they said they wanted to make XP/CP gains more balanced in all phases of the game.

Gilvoth · December 2014

No

wait, didnt they say we would get More xp if we played less? so wouldnt this actually be a good thing to leave the game for a while (im refering to the terms of gaining more in the champion system) or maybe im mistaken. not exactly sure how that ...

deepseamk20b14_ESO · December 2014

No

Gyudan wrote: »

Already did. This issue matters a lot to me.

"Oh boo stone this guy, he doesn't deserve anything else."

So you left because of the new system before even trying the new system? hmmm......interesting.

kongkim · December 2014

No

No way should i... its not a game breaker.. its some points that you can gain again and only give me more to do in the game.

Gyudan · December 2014

Yes

deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

Gyudan wrote: »

Already did. This issue matters a lot to me.

"Oh boo stone this guy, he doesn't deserve anything else."

So you left because of the new system before even trying the new system? hmmm......interesting.

I have canceled my subscription until further notice. I'm still waiting for an official answer on this issue and I'll make up my mind once I see it. For now I still have 2 weeks of game time left and I'm still doing the daily undaunted pledges and advancing crafting researchs.
I admit, however, that this is the first time since the beginning that I spend so little time logged in on ESO during a weekend, apart from the ones that I missed because of RL stuff.
The Champion System was a great source of excitement for me and I was eager to test everything on the PTS, but if this 30 CP thing is true, that'll be the end for me.

Thank you @Garetth, I thougt I would be the only one voting yes on the poll.

TheLaw · December 2014

No

I won't unsub, but I'll be more than unhappy.

Jitterbug · December 2014

No

30gate

SIN-X · December 2014

Yes

Truth be told its a bad poll. Fact is most people wont or don't have the marbles to put it to zos even if they do really care.I will be honest I wont unsub but I will be testing new games that come out until I find one that has 1. people who know what they are doing, cause lets be honest eso live is like watching docs fresh out college and I really think they lack any real experience in game development. 2. A game that has devs you can trust when they say something.
3. A game that has more founder/pre-order respect
The op only made this poll to help justify to zos that you can get by with this because we all know the largest part of the forum users are eso fan boys.

Gilvoth · December 2014

No

SIN-X wrote: »

Truth be told its a bad poll. Fact is most people wont or don't have the marbles to put it to zos even if they do really care.I will be honest I wont unsub but I will be testing new games that come out until I find one that has 1. people who know what they are doing, cause lets be honest eso live is like watching docs fresh out college and I really think they lack any real experience in game development. 2. A game that has devs you can trust when they say something.
3. A game that has more founder/pre-order respect
The op only made this poll to help justify to zos that you can get by with this because we all know the largest part of the forum users are eso fan boys.

i agree with you and your comment is prety much how i will be responding also, once i see what happens in jan. and all that will happen compared to what we were told is going to happen.

ahstin2001nub18_ESO · December 2014

Yes

this poll needs a "maybe" option due to the lack of information on CPs. i am not VR14 nor have i even finished silver, but the complaints VR14's have regarding their limit of 30 CPs is very valid given the variables of content now available to them (the number of available quests, uncompleted dungeons/instances/trials, quite frankly anything that renders experience that isn't there for them anymore), and the fact it was clearly stated that ZoS was tracking experience, for this system. just because i am not a victim today, doesn't mean i wont be a victim tomorrow.

i am maybe leaning towards yes- until i get a concrete answer from ZoS regarding the quantity of CPs, i am not sure what to do as far as playing/paying right now.

something to consider: all of those that aren't VR14+ that say "this even playing field is right" keep in mind, that you may end up carrying the current VR14 players through content. you may be equal at the start but with more experience rendering opportunities than the current VR14s, you will get VR14 and have potentially more points (and be slightly more powerful) than the current base.

DeLindsay · December 2014

No

NordJitsu wrote: »

Xjcon wrote: »

If a leaf falls will you unsub?

If ZOS makes a comment in a video, and no one on the forums complains, does it make a sound?

Bahahahahahaha!!

Black_Wolf88 · December 2014

Yes

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

No because I don't really care. I feel it would be better if everyone starts at an equal playing field and see where players branch out to.

thats the problem with the whole issue. everyone is not equal what so ever. this only benefits those who have done the least amount of things in game. mostly new players who just got to vr1 as they have everything available to be done.

on the other hand vr14 have a lot less to do in the way of getting champion points, which is why everyone want what was promised by zenimax - our progress that has been logged counts towards champion points.

only then will everyone be equal in terms of champion points

firstdecan · December 2014

No

I'm just glad to see the majority of this poll has reasonable responses.

Gilvoth · December 2014

No

firstdecan wrote: »

I'm just glad to see the majority of this poll has reasonable responses.

where is one (so far) that is not reasonable?

JackDaniell · December 2014

This poll should be closed as the poll itself is based on incorecrt information. To clarify.

When your first toon hits VR1 they will be awarded a flat amount of champion points (30) and then afterwards ant exp you gain, OR HAVE GAINED will reward you with more points. This means that a player with two V14 toons will have champion points equal to the exp to get two V14 toons.

Now the next question you may ask, how is this fair to players who have not leveled many toons or have not played a long tine on one v14? Champion points give diminishing returns when invested, so if you spend one point in a given "passive?" your point gives you 1% of that value, the next gives you 0.9%, then 0.8% ect. So a player with 1000 champion points will not be super superior to a player with 100.

I hope this helps clear up the confusion a thread like this has caused.

Gilvoth · December 2014

No

JackDaniell wrote: »

When your first toon hits VR1 they will be awarded a flat amount of champion points (30) and then afterwards ant exp you gain, OR HAVE GAINED will reward you with more points. This means that a player with two V14 toons will have champion points equal to the exp to get two V14 toons.

Now the next question you may ask, how is this fair to players who have not leveled many toons or have not played a long tine on one v14? Champion points give diminishing returns when invested, so if you spend one point in a given "passive?" your point gives you 1% of that value, the next gives you 0.9%, then 0.8% ect. So a player with 1000 champion points will not be super superior to a player with 100.

I hope this helps clear up the confusion a thread like this has caused.

where did you hear that information? because that is Not what i heard said. all i heard said was that we would each recieve 30 champion points. at that point the conversation ended and changed to a different subject.

prototypefb · December 2014

No

Every1 pays just about same money for subscription, if they have more time on their hands, great, they award themselves for playing/enjoying the game, improving character/skills etc.
It's not right to award any1 lot more CP just because they spend more time in game, at least at the beginning. Massive imbalance is what drives away newcomers for this type of games, newbies have enough things to catch up to already.
There should be some sort of gradual rewarding:
reward 30 CP for each vr1 char at launch of update 6, then later with each major update rise rewarded levels gradually - 'soft' reward system.

Gilvoth · December 2014

No

prototypefb wrote: »

Every1 pays just about same money for subscription, if they have more time on their hands, great, they award themselves for playing/enjoying the game, improving character/skills etc.
It's not right to award any1 lot more CP just because they spend more time in game, at least at the beginning. Massive imbalance is what drives away newcomers for this type of games, newbies have enough things to catch up to already.
There should be some sort of gradual rewarding:
reward 30 CP for each vr1 char at launch of update 6, then later with each major update rise rewarded levels gradually - 'soft' reward system.

very funny post lol

JackDaniell · December 2014

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

JackDaniell wrote: »

When your first toon hits VR1 they will be awarded a flat amount of champion points (30) and then afterwards ant exp you gain, OR HAVE GAINED will reward you with more points. This means that a player with two V14 toons will have champion points equal to the exp to get two V14 toons.

Now the next question you may ask, how is this fair to players who have not leveled many toons or have not played a long tine on one v14? Champion points give diminishing returns when invested, so if you spend one point in a given "passive?" your point gives you 1% of that value, the next gives you 0.9%, then 0.8% ect. So a player with 1000 champion points will not be super superior to a player with 100.

I hope this helps clear up the confusion a thread like this has caused.

where did you hear that information? because that is Not what i heard said. all i heard said was that we would each recieve 30 champion points. at that point the conversation ended and changed to a different subject.

Please listen to the discussion again, as you have heard incorrectly.

Guppet · December 2014

No

JackDaniell wrote: »

This poll should be closed as the poll itself is based on incorecrt information. To clarify.

When your first toon hits VR1 they will be awarded a flat amount of champion points (30) and then afterwards ant exp you gain, OR HAVE GAINED will reward you with more points. This means that a player with two V14 toons will have champion points equal to the exp to get two V14 toons.

Now the next question you may ask, how is this fair to players who have not leveled many toons or have not played a long tine on one v14? Champion points give diminishing returns when invested, so if you spend one point in a given "passive?" your point gives you 1% of that value, the next gives you 0.9%, then 0.8% ect. So a player with 1000 champion points will not be super superior to a player with 100.

I hope this helps clear up the confusion a thread like this has caused.

Its not based on incorrect information in any way. It ask s a question, that is all. Why do people always try to add context that is not there. How the hell can it be clearer, if 30 is the cap will people quit. How is that ambiguous or based on false information?

I'm sure if you did a poll saying do you like polls with a yes or no answer, someone on here would say its biased or un representative.

I also suspect that no one here is in anyway confused to the context of the poll, most have posed umpteen times in various threads about the issue of the day.

Don't try to clear up other peoples polls with your thought police bull crap.

JackDaniell · December 2014

Guppet wrote: »

JackDaniell wrote: »

This poll should be closed as the poll itself is based on incorecrt information. To clarify.

When your first toon hits VR1 they will be awarded a flat amount of champion points (30) and then afterwards ant exp you gain, OR HAVE GAINED will reward you with more points. This means that a player with two V14 toons will have champion points equal to the exp to get two V14 toons.

Now the next question you may ask, how is this fair to players who have not leveled many toons or have not played a long tine on one v14? Champion points give diminishing returns when invested, so if you spend one point in a given "passive?" your point gives you 1% of that value, the next gives you 0.9%, then 0.8% ect. So a player with 1000 champion points will not be super superior to a player with 100.

I hope this helps clear up the confusion a thread like this has caused.

Its not based on incorrect information in any way. It ask s a question, that is all. Why do people always try to add context that is not there. How the hell can it be clearer, if 30 is the cap will people quit. How is that ambiguous or based on false information?

I'm sure if you did a poll saying do you like polls with a yes or no answer, someone on here would say its biased or un representative.

30 is not the cap. That was not said or inferred to, the number 30 was used to describe the above scenario I mentioned. It's OK if you did not know, I just want to clear things up as you have quickly turned the wrong information into a quitting poll.

ahstin2001nub18_ESO · December 2014

Yes

prototypefb wrote: »

Every1 pays just about same money for subscription, if they have more time on their hands, great, they award themselves for playing/enjoying the game, improving character/skills etc.
It's not right to award any1 lot more CP just because they spend more time in game, at least at the beginning. Massive imbalance is what drives away newcomers for this type of games, newbies have enough things to catch up to already.
There should be some sort of gradual rewarding:
reward 30 CP for each vr1 char at launch of update 6, then later with each major update rise rewarded levels gradually - 'soft' reward system.

so you have had your home mortgage for 20 of the 30 years of its life span, since i don't own a house and need one i am going to move in with you and only pay the last 10 years of the loan and retain 50% ownership of the dwelling/property/mineral rights (should that apply). its only fair, because i simply couldn't catch up with your 20 years already paid in since the mortgage has a life span of 30 years. besides its an economic benefit that when you sell that home, you and i both get 50% of the profits, even though you paid substantially more for me to have a house that i can move into, then get money out of when you sell it.

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