bellanca6561n wrote: »

You have to forgive Ashy....telling folks they're bringing up a subject that has been brought up many, many times, is his thing His greatest joy is showing more and more flamboyant ways to make people who come here to express a complaint or an opinion without going through a forum search first - as if that's the point of a forum - feel selfish or stupid.

Ashy, my dear boy, everything that we say has been said. Everything we think has been thought before. We have no original feelings either, pitiful mortals. So why go on living in the first place?

But we do need more bank space. It needs to be available from a out of game cash shop. Or it should be a veteran reward option in lieu of a pet thingie.

How search tool working Not so hard, right? And it's really annoyng to see the same topics over and over and over again. It's really frustrating that peolple not able to use search.

Also, don't act like bringing up a subject that has been brought up many, many times is a good thing.

And no, not everything that we say has been said. Not at all. Try to study, maybe try to get master course. You'll see a whole world of unknown things. Yeah, we can keep saying over and over again same things or we can create something new (here by create I mean to come up with a new topic, fresh idea). We have a lot of interesting discussions. And we have tonns of the same topics only because someone can't use search.

Yeah, yeah, a favorite rant. Of course everyone would like more bank space, but the number of VR14's clearly indicate it's not an insurmountable obstacle. I'd rather see major UI changes instead of relying on unreliable add-ons. ZOS shows no signs of movement on either of these issues.

AshySamurai wrote: »

Ourorboros wrote: »

Yeah, yeah, a favorite rant. Of course everyone would like more bank space, but the number of VR14's clearly indicate it's not an insurmountable obstacle. I'd rather see major UI changes instead of relying on unreliable add-ons. ZOS shows no signs of movement on either of these issues.

fiftypercentgrey wrote: »

its ok, I didnt mind him.
It was and is the point of this thread to be noticed (as one more thread were one or more players express their wish for more bank space).

Im not sure if I want it as a cash shop option. The subscription should be enough, imho. But thats beside the point of the "if" and a matter of "how".

I just can't understand why it is such an issue in this game. The limiting factor shouldn't be bank space of all things. That's ridiculous.

BTW not an issue for me. Have a collection of loot that I want to have, all trophys, a lot of pets, tonns of rosins and other crafting mats and still have some free space in bank and in my inventory. So, no, I don't see why ZOS should add more bank space.

Ah, everything is explained now. So since it's not a problem for YOU personally no one else should view it as a problem.

Also, the first thing that happens when people DO use the search tool and then comment on an older thread is that some tool leaps in to chastise them for "necroing" an old thread. Truly, you can't win here. So I don't mind new threads on "old" topics. And frankly, the horse ain't dead til ZoS fixes the problem.

MornaBaine wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

Ourorboros wrote: »

Yeah, yeah, a favorite rant. Of course everyone would like more bank space, but the number of VR14's clearly indicate it's not an insurmountable obstacle. I'd rather see major UI changes instead of relying on unreliable add-ons. ZOS shows no signs of movement on either of these issues.

fiftypercentgrey wrote: »

its ok, I didnt mind him.
It was and is the point of this thread to be noticed (as one more thread were one or more players express their wish for more bank space).

Im not sure if I want it as a cash shop option. The subscription should be enough, imho. But thats beside the point of the "if" and a matter of "how".

I just can't understand why it is such an issue in this game. The limiting factor shouldn't be bank space of all things. That's ridiculous.

BTW not an issue for me. Have a collection of loot that I want to have, all trophys, a lot of pets, tonns of rosins and other crafting mats and still have some free space in bank and in my inventory. So, no, I don't see why ZOS should add more bank space.

Ah, everything is explained now. So since it's not a problem for YOU personally no one else should view it as a problem.

Also, the first thing that happens when people DO use the search tool and then comment on an older thread is that some tool leaps in to chastise them for "necroing" an old thread. Truly, you can't win here. So I don't mind new threads on "old" topics. And frankly, the horse ain't dead til ZoS fixes the problem.

I didn't mean that all fine only because I don't have this problem. All I want to say is if you have problem with bank space, you need to learn how to manage your bank space.

All see only one solution - ask ZOS to increase bank space. How about other solution? Solve it by yourself.

I don't want to offend anyone (especially OP), but this is a dead horse. And OP isn't a newbie.

yep, Im no newbie. Im just a casual player and I dont get to play as often as I like.
For me it is an insane amount of gold. My free time is precious and I have to waste too much it with this bank space problem. I never had that problem in other MMOs even when you had to buy more backpack/bankspace there, too (uo, EQ1+2, daoc, wow, aoc, swtor, warhammer, gw1+2, ...).

My playstyle isnt that different in ESO. Those of you with no problems at all: what are you keeping in the bank? How big is your bank? Do you have a draft horse (I cant do that one, for example. I enjoy my really fast horse too much. Just for being fast )?
How are you managing your stuff? Meaning: what can I do to make this work for me?

fiftypercentgrey wrote: »

yep, Im no newbie. Im just a casual player and I dont get to play as often as I like.
For me it is an insane amount of gold. My free time is precious and I have to waste too much it with this bank space problem. I never had that problem in other MMOs even when you had to buy more backpack/bankspace there, too (uo, EQ1+2, daoc, wow, aoc, swtor, warhammer, gw1+2, ...).

My playstyle isnt that different in ESO. Those of you with no problems at all: what are you keeping in the bank? How big is your bank? Do you have a draft horse (I cant do that one, for example. I enjoy my really fast horse too much. Just for being fast )?
How are you managing your stuff? Meaning: what can I do to make this work for me?

What do I keep in my bank??, mats mostly, but a few pieces of armour or weapons that I want to research. My trophies (the non-collectibles type) goes on a banking alt (wasn't created to be a banking alt, but he didn't work out).

Things I don't keep in my bank, alchemy ingredients, food ingredients, runes. (and of course I don't keep trophies there either, but I don't chuck them either).

I keep a stash of gear I want to research on my characters, and the materials for the food I want to craft at that level (or for next tier). I keep maybe two or three level of potency runes, and a handfull of essence runes (not too many or they clog up my inventory).

Most of the stuff I pick up, I deconstruct. I only keep raw materials for the next set of armour/weapons I'll need (I keep the refined mats just not the raw wood, leather, fabric or ores).

And I sell everything that I don't want for gold (if you can get gold for it, otherwise I destroy it).

fiftypercentgrey wrote: »

yep, Im no newbie. Im just a casual player and I dont get to play as often as I like.
For me it is an insane amount of gold. My free time is precious and I have to waste too much it with this bank space problem. I never had that problem in other MMOs even when you had to buy more backpack/bankspace there, too (uo, EQ1+2, daoc, wow, aoc, swtor, warhammer, gw1+2, ...).

My playstyle isnt that different in ESO. Those of you with no problems at all: what are you keeping in the bank? How big is your bank? Do you have a draft horse (I cant do that one, for example. I enjoy my really fast horse too much. Just for being fast )?
How are you managing your stuff? Meaning: what can I do to make this work for me?

I don't have draft horses, and not even maxed bank space. I'm keeping all craft mats except provisioning and alchemy. Also all trophies and pets. For now also few shoulders and helms from undaunted chests. All gear I get I deconsctruct or sell.

What can you do? Decide what you really need and what you really will use. Like stack of low-lvl raw mats or piece of set that you will never use. Clean your bank and don't deposit all that you have, only what you will need.

MornaBaine wrote: »

AshySamurai wrote: »

Ourorboros wrote: »

Yeah, yeah, a favorite rant. Of course everyone would like more bank space, but the number of VR14's clearly indicate it's not an insurmountable obstacle. I'd rather see major UI changes instead of relying on unreliable add-ons. ZOS shows no signs of movement on either of these issues.

fiftypercentgrey wrote: »

its ok, I didnt mind him.
It was and is the point of this thread to be noticed (as one more thread were one or more players express their wish for more bank space).

Im not sure if I want it as a cash shop option. The subscription should be enough, imho. But thats beside the point of the "if" and a matter of "how".

I just can't understand why it is such an issue in this game. The limiting factor shouldn't be bank space of all things. That's ridiculous.

BTW not an issue for me. Have a collection of loot that I want to have, all trophys, a lot of pets, tonns of rosins and other crafting mats and still have some free space in bank and in my inventory. So, no, I don't see why ZOS should add more bank space.

Ah, everything is explained now. So since it's not a problem for YOU personally no one else should view it as a problem.

Also, the first thing that happens when people DO use the search tool and then comment on an older thread is that some tool leaps in to chastise them for "necroing" an old thread. Truly, you can't win here. So I don't mind new threads on "old" topics. And frankly, the horse ain't dead til ZoS fixes the problem.

This.

It's like, why even dare to ask a question when others which don't have the same issue/bug/whatever just steamroll the thread with their arrogance.

Unfortunately, here on the forums are some more of this kind (at the moment it's more quiet, though, must be on vacation..)

@Raygee‌
yah.. well. The price for asking non-unique-questions or having non-unique-opinions (or, in this case, wishful thinking) in open/anonymous forums, I guess. Human behavior et cetera.

I have a lot of sympathy for the new/old thread controversy. As long as more folks have 'something to say' about it, I'm fine listening - or if not, I don't have to read your post.

I'm a casual player, late to MMO, more about RPG. The idea of wasting a PC on a "mule" (I assume that's someone to carry stuff - I have no idea what a tweak is) just doesn't work in my brain. I'm sappy enough to have backstories and family info on all eight of my characters, and to wish I could afford (more about the time than the money) to have eight more.

As for 20,000 in a day?!?! I've maybe made that much .... ever. I save everything to deconstruct it and learn from it, then pass the stuff with interesting 'traits' on to the characters who specialize in that particular craft. All my characters are at least 3rd (and have hirelings in) clothier, blacksmith, enchanting, woodworking (my e-mail is often overwhelmed with the deliveries).

I've managed to get most of my characters up to 80 slots, and my bank up to 100 .... just can't afford more yet. It's a pain shifting stuff around. On the advice of a friend, I'm keeping craft-specific stuff with the characters in question (primary blacksmith, woodworker, whatever) and general trait and armor and weapon stuff in the bank (so all crafters can get to it). My provisioner keeps most of the food (now with higher levels - my highest char is 26 - there are so many food types I can't quite keep up) and my enchanter holds onto runes. I've tentatively got someone else holding jewelry. When someone goes adventuring, mostly I can shove their stuff in the bank. When they come back overloaded, then I have to sort it out among folks.

What I wish is that there was some way to see what happens to all the weird trophies (and fish) that I "use" and they dissapear. I would like ... oh, non-counting slots (like quest slots) to keep track of stuff like this.

The old guard who live the "don't horde" motto(they think) are missing the major point.

All the sorting and shifting to mules/other toons takes an enormous amount of time away from just playing the game.

An increase of bag slots would increase the time playing the game, instead of playing My Little Pony musical bags.

dharbert wrote: »

Everyone starts off with 60 bag slots per character, plus 60 slots in the bank. That's a total of 540 slots for free. That's quite a few just to start with.

Then, for a mere 400 gold per character (3,200 gold), you can increase that by another 80 bag slots, bringing your total up to 620 slots. That's dirt cheap.

16,000 gold will get you another 80 bag slots, bringing your total up to 700 slots, which should be more than any starting player will need. Just don't keep every little thing you find and will probably never need.

From here, the costs rise exponentially. But, once you are higher level, you can easily afford more bag and bank space, as well as horses with inventory upgrades.

Basically I agree with this, yes. We do have a lot of space either for free or for not too much gold.

But I think the actual problem are the bank slots which are way more expensive than the inventory slots. Like my next upgrade would be from 200 to 210 which costs 70.000 gold already (afaik it goes up to 240 slots and gets even more expensive than that).

I do not hoard everything, f.e. I delete all the trophies except for a few as well as half of my pets (which I did a long time ago when I didn't have much space). I also don't carry all available ingredients for provisioning or alchemy, only the stuff I really need, but I always keep all runes I find, though, which take a lot of space already.
Other crafting materials (blacksmithing/clothing/woodworking), tempers, traits and styles I always have about 1 stack of each kind or slightly below. All these things except for provisioning stuff (for food only) are in different alts' inventories since there's no way to put them all in the bank, not even if it's fully upgraded to 240 (if this number is correct).

So the problem is that many players, including myself, which are crafters in ALL crafting skills have either a huge impact on the inventory space while playing these characters, or they are so full that they are not playable anymore at all (like 3 of mine at the moment).

I do like crafting armor/weapon sets or cooking food not only for my own characters but also for other players (guildies, friends), if needed. That's why I keep all these things. I'm one of these players who don't charge them.

If I could trade let's say 20 inventory slots from each character for the same amount of bank space, I'd do this right now.

I'm wondering if part of the problem is how we each define "actually playing". I like the fact that I can craft. I love the fact that there are style books out there, and almost all of my characters (even the 'non'-primary crafters) know most styles by now. I like to mix & match to get the most interesting/appropriate looking combination of items for characters, and for a while I had the habit of stopping by one of the locations in Vulkel Guard where you can get a snake-headed destruction staff by just picking it up; granted it has no traits, but since the character in question has a backstory of an illicit romance with a Maomer, it fits the "storyline" so much that it's worth the fact that it's less effective (yeah, I know that higher up you can do a Nord staff with a snake-top, but my character isn't there yet).

I wish the alchemy system was as nice as the Morrowind system, but you can't have everything.

If there is a 'trophy' tag coming, I'm all for it. I also fish, not just to save them, but to role-play (sort of) feeding them to my familiar. That's another thing; I wish we could name the 'unstable familiar' and 'twilight' critters. After all if it's a familiar, then it should be 'the same one' every time.

I hadn't realized there was a draft horse option. I'll have to consider that (although how I can ever afford it, I have no idea). Yes, the limitations are frustrating. Oh well.