Centered Third Person Camera

Heruthema · December 2014

The game is all about immersion. I understand the graphics from behind me getting in my way. that is the price of third person and I do not know of a game that does it any differently. But again how can I get into my character, without having to go into first person, if I have to watch how I am lined up (off center) so I can get through a door?

Robocles · December 2014

Heruthema wrote: »

The game is all about immersion. I understand the graphics from behind me getting in my way. that is the price of third person and I do not know of a game that does it any differently. But again how can I get into my character, without having to go into first person, if I have to watch how I am lined up (off center) so I can get through a door?

Huh? I don't think I've ever had a problem getting into a door... you run up to it, with the reticle the game gives you, and click E.

Heruthema · December 2014

OK door was a bad example. Gates, archways, getting over single board ramps, missing other solid objects, etc, etc.
I am so glad you do not have any problems with this. You must only play in first person, and if that's the case you do not have a real stake in this. It is an annoyance at best at worst it can become a real frustration when trying to do timed situations or get to areas that require you to cross over single board ramps/bridges.
For this game I do not like first person and prefer to play third person. So that is NOT an option.
These are the simple things that they can change to give people options so they can as ZOS says 'Play the way you like'.

Robocles · December 2014

I never play in first person.

Heruthema · December 2014

All I am trying to say is that it is and has been a major annoyance for me from beta on. I am not sure who on their design team felt that this was a good thing to do, but they must really have an Offset way that they view things.
It would be livable if where the pointer is is where you go but its not.

TequilaFire · December 2014

A lot of third person shooters use over the shoulder, but let you switch shoulders. It makes sense when using an AK-47 much not so much sword and board or staff.

Gidorick · December 2014

Submit this in game with /feedback

Those go more directly to the development team.

Heruthema · December 2014

Gidorick wrote: »

Submit this in game with /feedback

Those go more directly to the development team.

Wow you sure know how to kill a thread.

lol
Great advice though.

Voodoo · December 2014

not natural to be off centre. Allowing for customization is always the way to go. I play all the way zoomed out to avoid this terrible unnatural off centre view.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO · December 2014

Voodoo wrote: »

not natural to be off centre. Allowing for customization is always the way to go. I play all the way zoomed out to avoid this terrible unnatural off centre view.

Yup totally agree with you here..

Etori · December 2014

I've never had an issue with 3rd person. It's the only way I can play.

superquadockyb14_ESO · December 2014

I would absolutely adore an option for centered 3rd person. OR at least like how it was in Skyrim with Centered while in combat pose. I NEED the centered view because I always feel like I can't see my character the way I want to.

nathan_bri · December 2014

Robocles wrote: »

They really don't allow that many options. It's a common complaint about the UI. Like it the way ZOS designed it, or go find some guy who will code an option for you for free.

Sadly, to code around it would require more than 2D UI-based LUA programming. You'd have to tinker with the innards of the engine to reposition the camera. My guess is that ZoS would have a fit over that and ban its usage.

Robocles · December 2014

nathan_bri wrote: »

Robocles wrote: »

They really don't allow that many options. It's a common complaint about the UI. Like it the way ZOS designed it, or go find some guy who will code an option for you for free.

Sadly, to code around it would require more than 2D UI-based LUA programming. You'd have to tinker with the innards of the engine to reposition the camera. My guess is that ZoS would have a fit over that and ban its usage.

Agreed... but that's pretty much our option for most adjustments to the UI. We just have no real option for what is being asked for here, and ZOS has repeatedly said that their design in this area is intentional.

Gidorick · December 2014

Heruthema wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Submit this in game with /feedback

Those go more directly to the development team.

Wow you sure know how to kill a thread. lol
Great advice though.

LOL. Sorry. it wasn't intended as a thread-kill, just trying to be helpful.

I would personally like MANY more camera options. A top down "sky" view would be nice and some sort of "Z Buffer" that just makes the things between the character and the camera invisible would be nice. That way we could have a top-down camera that makes ceilings "invisible". Inside a building? No problem... just make the area beyond the wall black.

But MOST of all... I want first person while riding a horse.

forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/125895/first-person-horse-riding-anyone

Robocles · December 2014

Gidorick wrote: »

Heruthema wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Submit this in game with /feedback

Those go more directly to the development team.

Wow you sure know how to kill a thread. lol
Great advice though.

LOL. Sorry. it wasn't intended as a thread-kill, just trying to be helpful.

I would personally like MANY more camera options. A top down "sky" view would be nice and some sort of "Z Buffer" that just makes the things between the character and the camera invisible would be nice. That way we could have a top-down camera that makes ceilings "invisible". Inside a building? No problem... just make the area beyond the wall black.

But MOST of all... I want first person while riding a horse.

forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/125895/first-person-horse-riding-anyone

I don't think having more options is a bad thing.

I think trying to make them sound like a simplistic "Z Buffer" issue is absurd.

OrphanHelgen · December 2014

Resident evil 5 has this camera.
I am tired.

Robocles · December 2014

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Resident evil 5 has this camera.
I am tired.

Welcome to the complexity of an MMO. Go to sleep.

Ziz · December 2014

It wont change because a) they think you're stupid and b) they don't care what you want.

How so?

A ) They are forcing you to play the way they think is best. An entity that refuses to allow people to play as they wish shows a blatant disregard of their opinion and/or intelligence.

B ) In beta the camera was further back and more centered. They made a conscious decision to make a change no one asked for and continue to go against the requests of hundreds of people for months on end.

I have zero faith in any developer at ZoS to do any thing besides whats based on the bottom line.

Don't waste your time.

Ps. In case you're wondering why I pay to play a game I have so little faith in, there is no better RvR until Camelot Unchained gets here. Darn you DAoC for ruining mmos for me.

Pps. I thought of a third possible reason.

C ) They are pathetically lazy.

Still waiting on hot keys (key binds) for potion slots, its only been 21 months... Oh yeah, consoles (aka $$$) can't use them so who cares amirite.

SteveCampsOut · December 2014

Ziz wrote: »

Darn you DAoC for ruining mmos for me.

You Too?!?

Promise · January 2015

TequilaFire wrote: »

A lot of third person shooters use over the shoulder, but let you switch shoulders. It makes sense when using an AK-47 much not so much sword and board or staff.

The current camera angle isn't over the shoulder...more like 3 car seat's to the right and slightly angled. hehe, I agree though being this far to the right was a horrible design decision.

Gidorick · February 2015

We will have view sliders with 1.6 Thank you @ZOS!!!!!
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rawne1980b16_ESO · February 2015

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

BTW

On the top of the screen there is a cute thing for search threads...
Let me use it for you......

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Edit

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YAY fixed .... i feel like a hacker........

Most of those are dead threads that would involve thread necromancy if someone posted in them, forums frown on that kind of thing.

I don't like the off camera either.

It makes character screenshots look awful which is why I don't have any.

Tapio75 · February 2015

Yes, plese, in Skyrim the iff shoulder camera was bad and thankfully it got modded..

With camera on the right, it sometimes is hard to walk on narrow paths without falling.. It also gives and odd feeling when moving..

Not to mention for someone like mtself, who only has one eye and the character is on the wrong side compared to that.. It is hard to see enemies that come from the left..

Also, i have tendency which i learned that i often aim where my characters head is "looking" at, therefore ending up in situation where i often miss attacks since i actually run and swing past enemies on the left side -_-

Akiho · February 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

We will have view sliders with 1.6 Thank you @ZOS!!!!!

has this been added with 1.6 ?

Merlin13KAGL · February 2015

Akiho wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

We will have view sliders with 1.6 Thank you @ZOS!!!!!

has this been added with 1.6 ?

Yes, it has.

booker21 · June 2015

I´m wondering if they are going to add the option for the camera offset on the PS4 as well. I think the PC already has this option but is missing on the PS4 and it´s as annoying as it is on PC.