Domander wrote: »

SoulScream wrote: »

Some good points here. I had no idea it didn't give cc immune like other skills. I have been stun locked before by other skills are there several that do this or have they all been fixed except blazing spear?

All the disorients in the game do not give it either, but I assume that's by design. I also think it's why blazing spear doesn't give it, the base ability and the other morph are disorients.

The only other one is fear if you're blocking does not give cc immunity, allowing it to be chained. This one is supposed to be fixed eventually.

if you mean it going thru block.... then just CC break it.

if it does not actually let you CC break it while feared, then it should be fixed.

Why not just say Blazing Spear does not grant CC immunity to Stun when you break out?

Usually by the time I am out of stamina Blazing Spear is the least of my worries considering Fear can make you run around for MUCH longer "stunned" and there are plenty of other CCs.

I simply admit that all kind of "stun locks" is bad.

There is no fun in leaning back /facepalming being unable to break, roll, whatever and watch your character slowly die. Its a game, being locked without any player control over extended hard CC time ruins the fun, even in situations were you would most likely go down anyway.

Point is, it is much better to go down with a sense of fighting then having everyone getting frustrated over this games lack of proper CC mechanics in certain scenarios/combos.

Nothing is worse then the Vampire Feeding in Cyrodiil (its unbreakable even if friends interrupt the one feeding, you are left dangling in the air for the full duration)

Edit: many "Stun Lock" situations that happen are not L2P issues, please. I would take a wild guess that it has a lot more to do with latency and side effects from certain abilities then player skill (as @OldSmeller mentioned above somewhere)

the thing here is you can get stunlocked by this skill even with full stamina, wich is bs if you ask me,

JaJaLuka wrote: »

how many of the "no" answers are Templars?

how many of the "yes" answers have never thrown a blazing spear?
it's hardly an exploit imo

Manoekin wrote: »

No. If you die to blazing spear spam you suck. Not only does it take almost a whole minute spamming it to kill someone, but it's easily avoidable. It also does not go through immovable or block, and if you break out of it you will be immune to the stun for a while.

If your stam was depleted you were already dead anyway. Also you should have been able to regenerate enough stam to break out while being spammed.

I don't understand. If I die in a normal stun because I don't have enough stam to break out and the ability they're using actually does damage I should come to the forums and complain because I had less of a chance to survive.

If you think stam being depleted enough that you're stuck on the ground for 8 seconds to this means you were already defeated, perhaps you should rethink. That's 6 seconds you could of had to heal yourself or do other things. Even 2 would be enough. There are lots of instances where it's better not to CC break, Break free costs a lot of stamina.

I don't know who you think is complaining. My entire post was pretty much asking a question, perhaps I should of worded the OP differently, calling it broken instead of exploit, but it won't let me change it.

CC is something people often complain about, well why not drop 10 magicka regen and 150 magicka and health and dump it into stamina? Sure you could stack shields for days, but what good is all that magicka sustain if your laying on the ground? I think PvP is the area that Stamina builds really shine just because you become very hard to effectively CC, and most PvP players rely on CC to kill their targets.

Yes some CC skills in this game do not provide CC immunity, but if you do not have the resources to break a CC that provides immunity (such as a shield charge) you should be taking tons of damage while on the ground anyway. Right + Left click to break CC, build for sustain, you will no longer have this problem. A PvE Magicka DPS build has no place in Cyrodiil. I think people should run a minimum of 1700+ stamina with 80+ regen (assuming no cost reduction) while in PvP unless they have some badass healer(s) with them.

JackDaniell wrote: »

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Yes some CC skills in this game do not provide CC immunity, but if you do not have the resources to break a CC that provides immunity (such as a shield charge) you should be taking tons of damage while on the ground anyway. Right + Left click to break CC, build for sustain, you will no longer have this problem. A PvE Magicka DPS build has no place in Cyrodiil. I think people should run a minimum of 1700+ stamina with 80+ regen (assuming no cost reduction) while in PvP unless they have some badass healer(s) with them.

I've been infuriated by blazing spear far less than other forms of stun and cc. I don't think it's an exploit, but I am seeing it used a lot more now than before.

To the last part of this, as a dual resto healer I feel like even I may need to respec or reenchant for more stam. The lethal arrow fans say "roll or block, its not hard to avoid being hit by me" which is true of one archer, but not when there are 4 or more targeting you. Blow your stam sneaking or dodge rolling, then watch as you and your party are taloned and negated in a batswarm and can't break loose.