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The Great MMO Face-Off of 2014
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I'm not sure if it's necessary to include a link if ESO is absolutely destroying its current competitor WildStar, but support ESO in the MMO war here: http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/9174/page/1
MMORPG.com has created a special free-for-all, single elimination tournament between 32 big MMOs, divided into New MMOs and Veteran MMO groups, including ESO, to show which is the big bad wolf on the 2014 market right now.
This is a free-for-all, so the MMOs in the 2 groups aren't part of a team or anything like that, and as far as I know there can be a Veteran MMO vs. a New MMO.
Currently, ESO is facing off against WildStar, and ESO is absolutely destroying WS with over twice the amount of votes, so we can safely say that ESO has won Round 1 before it's even finished. After WildStar is pwned, ESO will most likely be going up against Archeage which is also pwning Darkfall. With the current state of AA, ESO is likely to knock down that wall as well, getting through to the top 8.
We may have won the battle here, but we don't know if we've won the war yet! Support the cause today! For Tamriel!
MMORPG.com has created a special free-for-all, single elimination tournament between 32 big MMOs, divided into New MMOs and Veteran MMO groups, including ESO, to show which is the big bad wolf on the 2014 market right now.
This is a free-for-all, so the MMOs in the 2 groups aren't part of a team or anything like that, and as far as I know there can be a Veteran MMO vs. a New MMO.
Currently, ESO is facing off against WildStar, and ESO is absolutely destroying WS with over twice the amount of votes, so we can safely say that ESO has won Round 1 before it's even finished. After WildStar is pwned, ESO will most likely be going up against Archeage which is also pwning Darkfall. With the current state of AA, ESO is likely to knock down that wall as well, getting through to the top 8.
We may have won the battle here, but we don't know if we've won the war yet! Support the cause today! For Tamriel!
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Bloodfang✭✭✭✭✭If it's 66% against Wildstar, I don't see that number changing with Archeage either..Heck I'm pretty sure even Wildstar would have beaten Archeage..
Archeage is on a big downfall..The last months their playerbase has been shrinking by quite a bit.1 -
HydroCanuck✭✭World of Warcraft is the most popular, successful MMO, of all time. Period. There is no way to dispute that. I don't even like WoW, but I can still admit that.1 -
leandro.800ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭With champion system , justice system and new guilds (apart from no lag in pvp) ESO will probably raise to the top 30 -
Bloodfang✭✭✭✭✭HydroCanuck wrote: »World of Warcraft is the most popular, successful MMO, of all time. Period. There is no way to dispute that. I don't even like WoW, but I can still admit that.
Just like Justin Bieber? And after playing it for 7+ years I can admit they have much in common. Huge fanbase, but crap game quality.leandro.800ub17_ESO wrote: »With champion system , justice system and new guilds (apart from no lag in pvp) ESO will probably raise to the top 3
ESO is very near the top 3. (We have already passed games like Archeage, Aion, Rift, SWTOR, Wildstar etc) The only ones that probably have a bigger fanbase would be WoW, GW2 and FFXIV.
Also guys I'd like to note Wildstar is catching up..In 1 day we are down from 66% to 60%. Keep it up.
I'm pretty sure we can make it very far, though GW2 will probably win it anyways.Edited by Bloodfang on December 4, 2014 5:54AM1 -
kallistiGAD✭✭✭Just voted. Currently at ESO with 60% and WildStar with 40%. Even though we probably wont win vs Guild Wars 2, hoping it's at least a close call.Argonian Maids Gone Wild
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Knootewoot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭There will be no winner. It is just like IMDB, everyone can vote. I can vote on Darkfall just because i don't like ArcheAge even if i don't play it anymore. It's rigged and totally not realistic.
You can best judge the game by playing it. If one doesn't like it he leaves quitely. Popularity is not measured by some score in a voting contest, but by the active subscriber count numbers.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
Bloodfang✭✭✭✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »There will be no winner. It is just like IMDB, everyone can vote. I can vote on Darkfall just because i don't like ArcheAge even if i don't play it anymore. It's rigged and totally not realistic.
You can best judge the game by playing it. If one doesn't like it he leaves quitely. Popularity is not measured by some score in a voting contest, but by the active subscriber count numbers.
You have a point here.
But even though WoW is a game with the most subscriber count number (70% in the East and 30% in the West), they are not doing that great in the West. I'm sure games like Guild Wars 2 should be pretty close to WoW in the West.
Also this voting contest will eliminate the most hated games, so it's not really rigged.Edited by Bloodfang on December 4, 2014 8:17AM0 -
Jacques Berge✭✭✭✭I'm currently playing archeage, and it is fun. The player freedom is awesome, the world is massive, and there's almost an endless amount of stuff to do. That said, the combat sucks, the raids suck, the itemization sucks, it's essentially Pay to Win, there's no story, and what voice overs there are are in Korean.
Archeage is fun... ESO is better and also over a year younger. Archeage was released in Korea in jan of 2013.Edited by Jacques Berge on December 4, 2014 8:28AM"Shadow hide you"
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✭✭✭Jacques Berge wrote: »I'm currently playing archeage, and it is fun. The player freedom is awesome, the world is massive, and there's almost an endless amount of stuff to do. That said, the combat sucks, the raids suck, the itemization sucks, it's essentially Pay to Win, there's no story, and what voice overs there are are in Korean.
Archeage is fun... ESO is better and also over a year younger. Archeage was released in Korea in jan of 2013.
I had fun. I had a little house and a garden. I stole people farm carts and drove them to destruction in a mob area and then got away with one pack which i sold for 5 gold.
I loved the freedom, you could fish on ANY spot like a normal mmo would do. The boats where awesome and pirating was fun, also the justice system (I had to go to prison once for 1700 minutes).
But I hate gear grinding. I never went to Hasla so in the end i was nothing in PvP
But in the end i quit because of the hacks and bots which dominated everything, from AH to landgrabbing.
Also the main story was lame. Around lvl 35 i killed a guy and it was like.. "here is a book and a cloak, k ...thx.. bye" End of story lol.Edited by Knootewoot on December 4, 2014 8:46AM٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
Jacques Berge✭✭✭✭Also, in pvp... Gear, not skill, not play style is what made you the best. And yeah... Trion needs borrow ZoS' bot ban hammer. Also, ESO is an every mans mmo. You can get good gear without doing insane grinds. Granted, I love my warlock rings (good luck getting them now) but you don't need, some say they're actually over rated."Shadow hide you"
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HydroCanuck✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »There will be no winner. It is just like IMDB, everyone can vote. I can vote on Darkfall just because i don't like ArcheAge even if i don't play it anymore. It's rigged and totally not realistic.
You can best judge the game by playing it. If one doesn't like it he leaves quitely. Popularity is not measured by some score in a voting contest, but by the active subscriber count numbers.
You have a point here.
But even though WoW is a game with the most subscriber count number (70% in the East and 30% in the West), they are not doing that great in the West. I'm sure games like Guild Wars 2 should be pretty close to WoW in the West.
Also this voting contest will eliminate the most hated games, so it's not really rigged.
Not that great in the West? Really? There is not an MMO on this planet, that even comes close to WoW's subscriber base. Non of them even come close to playing in the same ball park. But yeah, a website of a few hundred voters is certainly accurate.
I'm not a huge fan of WoW, but I still respect it, and Blizzard.
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Bloodfang✭✭✭✭✭HydroCanuck wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »There will be no winner. It is just like IMDB, everyone can vote. I can vote on Darkfall just because i don't like ArcheAge even if i don't play it anymore. It's rigged and totally not realistic.
You can best judge the game by playing it. If one doesn't like it he leaves quitely. Popularity is not measured by some score in a voting contest, but by the active subscriber count numbers.
You have a point here.
But even though WoW is a game with the most subscriber count number (70% in the East and 30% in the West), they are not doing that great in the West. I'm sure games like Guild Wars 2 should be pretty close to WoW in the West.
Also this voting contest will eliminate the most hated games, so it's not really rigged.
Not that great in the West? Really? There is not an MMO on this planet, that even comes close to WoW's subscriber base. Non of them even come close to playing in the same ball park. But yeah, a website of a few hundred voters is certainly accurate.
I'm not a huge fan of WoW, but I still respect it, and Blizzard.
Not that great as in the East.
WoW had with the launch of Draenor 10mil subs (that is 3mil in the West). I'd be surprised if they keep 50% subs half year from now. So yeah, in half year WoW will be well below FFXIV and GW2 in the West. Heck maybe even less than ESO (if the console launches).
No need to make WoW sound so great, their Wotlk days when it ruled in the West by a big margin, is long gone. They are rulling Asian Market now, which certainly fits their art style anyway.
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✭✭✭Jacques Berge wrote: »Also, in pvp... Gear, not skill, not play style is what made you the best. And yeah... Trion needs borrow ZoS' bot ban hammer. Also, ESO is an every mans mmo. You can get good gear without doing insane grinds. Granted, I love my warlock rings (good luck getting them now) but you don't need, some say they're actually over rated.
I hope they keep it that way. I see on the forums people asking for better endgame gear as reward. I hope endgame PvE rewards won't be better then PvP gear or crafted sets.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
HydroCanuck✭✭WoW is 10 years old, and has 3 million subscribers in North America, which is pretty unheard of in MMO's of today....using FF XIV is a pretty poor example, considering their first shot was a flop, and they had to reboot the entire game first.0
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Jacques Berge✭✭✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »Jacques Berge wrote: »Also, in pvp... Gear, not skill, not play style is what made you the best. And yeah... Trion needs borrow ZoS' bot ban hammer. Also, ESO is an every mans mmo. You can get good gear without doing insane grinds. Granted, I love my warlock rings (good luck getting them now) but you don't need, some say they're actually over rated.
I hope they keep it that way. I see on the forums people asking for better endgame gear as reward. I hope endgame PvE rewards won't be better then PvP gear or crafted sets.
In archeage? Oh I don't really care. It's just kind of relaxing to farm and sail and pirate from time to time... But I'm an ESO man... As soon as new content comes out I'll be all over it like... Like... Like... Awe man... I wanted to say joke about certain state employees being on a certain demographic... But people would probably get reported I'll be called racist even though I'm only being cheeky and @ZOS_UlyssesW will probably send me another email... Why can we all just get along?
... On I side note I just had some bacon.... Now that's something we can all agree on 
"Shadow hide you"
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Wolfshead✭✭✭✭HydroCanuck wrote: »World of Warcraft is the most popular, successful MMO, of all time. Period. There is no way to dispute that. I don't even like WoW, but I can still admit that.
The only thing that make WoW the most popular, successful MMO is the fact that when it come back in 2004 the was not many mmo out there and also at the sametime in most country ADSL come out at same which make it really cheap to be on internet 24/7 and it was fast as well no more 56K modem
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If ESO or any other off know mmo we have today would have come back then that mmo would be most popular, successful MMO so i have to say that Blizzard just was very very lucky that the was at right place at right time with WOWIf you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled; for you are in Elysium, and you're already deadWhat we do in life, echoes in eternity1 -
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✭✭✭HydroCanuck wrote: »WoW .using FF XIV is a pretty poor example, considering their first shot was a flop, and they had to reboot the entire game first.
Which is sad because the first release was actually an interesting game. I actually played it for 3 years before the reboot. I got about 2 months into the reboot before I realized what they where going for and completely lost interest.
I know I'm in the minority but ill take bugs with a fun interesting game over a polished generic game any day.Edited by ers101284b14_ESO on December 4, 2014 1:34PM0 -
HydroCanuck✭✭HydroCanuck wrote: »World of Warcraft is the most popular, successful MMO, of all time. Period. There is no way to dispute that. I don't even like WoW, but I can still admit that.
The only thing that make WoW the most popular, successful MMO is the fact that when it come back in 2004 the was not many mmo out there and also at the sametime in most country ADSL come out at same which make it really cheap to be on internet 24/7 and it was fast as well no more 56K modem.
If ESO or any other off know mmo we have today would have come back then that mmo would be most popular, successful MMO so i have to say that Blizzard just was very very lucky that the was at right place at right time with WOW
That's cute. But no. Ultima Online and Everquest were out before WoW.0 -
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✭✭✭WoW launched at the same time as EQ2. People i knew and i went for EQ2 because it was graphicly more enhanced and had more features (like player housing).
Before WoW we already had SWG, EQ, Anacrhy Online DA of Camelot to name a few. Games where pretty hardcore back then and not many people knew them or where interested.
Blizzard got so many people because everybody knew WarCraft, the made the game pretty east to jump into (in contrast to SWG.. here is 250 cr. a pistol and a melon and go and explore the galaxy)
And in asia it was forbidden to have a sub. so every monthy they had to make a new sub. blizzard was so kind to transfer their account to the new sub, hence the 16 million subs. Now Asia can have subs.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
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✭Knootewoot wrote: »There will be no winner. It is just like IMDB, everyone can vote. I can vote on Darkfall just because i don't like ArcheAge even if i don't play it anymore. It's rigged and totally not realistic.
You can best judge the game by playing it. If one doesn't like it he leaves quitely. Popularity is not measured by some score in a voting contest, but by the active subscriber count numbers.
You have a point here.
But even though WoW is a game with the most subscriber count number (70% in the East and 30% in the West), they are not doing that great in the West. I'm sure games like Guild Wars 2 should be pretty close to WoW in the West.
Also this voting contest will eliminate the most hated games, so it's not really rigged.
Do you have a source for those percentages? I was curious enough to look but never stumbled on hard numbers.0 -
I liked GW2 allot and it definitely seemed more popular in the East when I was playing. It just was boring after a while once you reached the end. Still a very well done game.0
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HydroCanuck✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »There will be no winner. It is just like IMDB, everyone can vote. I can vote on Darkfall just because i don't like ArcheAge even if i don't play it anymore. It's rigged and totally not realistic.
You can best judge the game by playing it. If one doesn't like it he leaves quitely. Popularity is not measured by some score in a voting contest, but by the active subscriber count numbers.
You have a point here.
But even though WoW is a game with the most subscriber count number (70% in the East and 30% in the West), they are not doing that great in the West. I'm sure games like Guild Wars 2 should be pretty close to WoW in the West.
Also this voting contest will eliminate the most hated games, so it's not really rigged.
Do you have a source for those percentages? I was curious enough to look but never stumbled on hard numbers.
http://www.wowwiki.com/WoW_population_by_country0 -
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✭HydroCanuck wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »There will be no winner. It is just like IMDB, everyone can vote. I can vote on Darkfall just because i don't like ArcheAge even if i don't play it anymore. It's rigged and totally not realistic.
You can best judge the game by playing it. If one doesn't like it he leaves quitely. Popularity is not measured by some score in a voting contest, but by the active subscriber count numbers.
You have a point here.
But even though WoW is a game with the most subscriber count number (70% in the East and 30% in the West), they are not doing that great in the West. I'm sure games like Guild Wars 2 should be pretty close to WoW in the West.
Also this voting contest will eliminate the most hated games, so it's not really rigged.
Do you have a source for those percentages? I was curious enough to look but never stumbled on hard numbers.
http://www.wowwiki.com/WoW_population_by_country
Thanks! I used that to find warcraftrealms, i might go through that site to find some numbers after work because I have a hard time believing that western countries only make up 30% of the player base as was proposed.0
