Wall of Elements

TheBull · November 2014

Purge breaks hazard type skills. What else is there to know? It's caused some crazy numbers to literally pop.

This in conjunction with the lag (maybe the cause of some of the lag) one shots people.

Darklord_Tiberius · November 2014

Huntler wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Or maybe the skill is actually broken, as has been reported over a dozen times.

People have figured out a way to boost the immediate damage to a level bordering on ridiculous. There is a REASON everyone is using it, think about that for a second. People dont just mass switch to abilities willy nilly, nor does something become FOTM "because reasons"

There is obviously something wrong.

No, no this is not why people are using it. It is only broken if they use the unstable morph because the final explosion is uncapped. That is the only thing that needs to be fixed since uncapped is obviously unintended. People use it for that for the ulti generation and of course it being uncapped will hit a ton of people.

There is nothing else broken about it, everyone is using it now because the current meta and player skill is lacking horribly. Players are taking advantage of how stupid other players are (in standing in them continuously) coupled with in a big fight it can be difficult to see sometimes.

The skill is not working as intended with the Alliance War Purge/Cleanse buff. Go look in that thread to understand why people are really using this, lol explosion damage... They use Blockade so they can get more dots faster with healers stacking cleanse buff on allies. Derp Derp Derp, more bad players using bad skills trying to win lol

Subtomik · November 2014

Darklord_Tiberius wrote: »

The skill is not working as intended with the Alliance War Purge/Cleanse buff. Go look in that thread to understand why people are really using this, lol explosion damage... They use Blockade so they can get more dots faster with healers stacking cleanse buff on allies. Derp Derp Derp, more bad players using bad skills trying to win lol

Thats funny, you must be exploiting with blazing spear, backlash, and caltrops then. Do you not realize this is a problem with purge, not wall?

pot meet kettle?

Sanct16 · November 2014

BE HAPPY!

Everyone wants zergwiping skills so badly and removed AoE caps to counter zergballs. ZOS was kind enough to give us Wall of Elements which perfectly fullfills this. Against small groups of players its rather bad as it is easy to avoid. But against zergballs it is *** awesome.

If you cry this much about WoE now, I can't wait for the zergbuster skills ZOS anounced. See WoE as a practice.

Rylana · November 2014

You know, I really hope the devs hid the other thread for internal discussion and didnt just shut it down to hide the fact

Suru · November 2014

Rylana wrote: »

You know, I really hope the devs hid the other thread for internal discussion and didnt just shut it down to hide the fact

They hid it because it was a post discussing an exploit and to stop other players from exploiting. Not completely assured this was the right choice. I felt like it was more of a PSA to make players more aware. When to and when to not use purge. I hope they hotfix this

Its kinda an exploit and it isnt. Its mostly on the player to understand this mechanic and protect themselves. Without people knowing about it they are just going to subject themselves to this exploit. We are only really exploiting ourselves? and Enemies exploiting ZoS choice to delete the thread educating players? My brain hurts

Subtomik · November 2014

Firstly I just want to say im looking forward to testing, it may be that this works with every single dot/ground target effect, so far it seems to be that way from what I have worked out.

Secondly, considering the stacking of lethal arrow healing debuff is unintended, is that in the same category as this? I mean, everyone knows its broken and has since the patch yet it is the most spammed skill in cyrodiil.

Tintinabula · November 2014

accordingly, sojourn to thesaurus.com and purpose that website so you too can resemble the well-read(AKA ejumucated)

Nicko_Lps · November 2014

Before i say anything i think i never put that skill on my bar,i inow its good but not for my playstyle therefore i must have used it twice last month.ive never been damaged more than 600 damage of it and was a really nubthing ive dont and i got it.

Yeah it deals a lot of damage,for surr you dont have impenetrable on and for sure you dont have ebough spell resistance and for sure you did not hold block.
But because you dont have of both doesnt mean you can be godmode and unaffected by it. just STEP OUT OF IT,easy. Dont step on it and they will stop using it,why? CAuse u feel bad when youre waisting your magica and die at the end because of this.

So what comes next:

Nerf veil of blades
Nerf the standard
Nerf negates
Nerf solar disturbance
Nerf the bats,again

And nerf them all because people dont wanna step out of them,and they wanna feel that they walk on a park stepping on nice grass.
Like you did dear ZoS with batswarm,and you nerfed the wrong morph.

Im sick and tired to see people complaining about a thing that they can avoid that easy.

Ps:
nerf slaughterfish they do huge damage as well they are op as hell.

Rylana · November 2014

Suru wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

You know, I really hope the devs hid the other thread for internal discussion and didnt just shut it down to hide the fact

They hid it because it was a post discussing an exploit and to stop other players from exploiting. Not completely assured this was the right choice. I felt like it was more of a PSA to make players more aware. When to and when to not use purge. I hope they hotfix this

Its kinda an exploit and it isnt. Its mostly on the player to understand this mechanic and protect themselves. Without people knowing about it they are just going to subject themselves to this exploit. We are only really exploiting ourselves? and Enemies exploiting ZoS choice to delete the thread educating players? My brain hurts

lol i get what you were trying to do, i figured it wouldnt stay up for long. im kinda old school, not as progressive or hopeful that people wouldnt just take the information and then go use it "for the lulz" between now and whenever they fix it (lol caltrops?)

Thats why I didnt post my stuff, cause 1. I didnt want it to spread. 2. I figured it would get me yelled at by a mod.

But as long as its known by dev, it doesnt even need to be up on the forums, my opinion =D

Lord Stark · November 2014

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Before i say anything i think i never put that skill on my bar,i inow its good but not for my playstyle therefore i must have used it twice last month.ive never been damaged more than 600 damage of it and was a really nubthing ive dont and i got it.

Yeah it deals a lot of damage,for surr you dont have impenetrable on and for sure you dont have ebough spell resistance and for sure you did not hold block.
But because you dont have of both doesnt mean you can be godmode and unaffected by it. just STEP OUT OF IT,easy. Dont step on it and they will stop using it,why? CAuse u feel bad when youre waisting your magica and die at the end because of this.

So what comes next:

Nerf veil of blades
Nerf the standard
Nerf negates
Nerf solar disturbance
Nerf the bats,again

And nerf them all because people dont wanna step out of them,and they wanna feel that they walk on a park stepping on nice grass.
Like you did dear ZoS with batswarm,and you nerfed the wrong morph.

Im sick and tired to see people complaining about a thing that they can avoid that easy.

Ps:
nerf slaughterfish they do huge damage as well they are op as hell.

" Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. " - Billy Madison's Principal.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO · November 2014

Huntler wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Or maybe the skill is actually broken, as has been reported over a dozen times.

People have figured out a way to boost the immediate damage to a level bordering on ridiculous. There is a REASON everyone is using it, think about that for a second. People dont just mass switch to abilities willy nilly, nor does something become FOTM "because reasons"

There is obviously something wrong.

No, no this is not why people are using it. It is only broken if they use the unstable morph because the final explosion is uncapped. That is the only thing that needs to be fixed since uncapped is obviously unintended. People use it for that for the ulti generation and of course it being uncapped will hit a ton of people.

There is nothing else broken about it, everyone is using it now because the current meta and player skill is lacking horribly. Players are taking advantage of how stupid other players are (in standing in them continuously) coupled with in a big fight it can be difficult to see sometimes.

True but not true. People who are purged are taking more damage. People switched as soon as impulse nerfed.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO · November 2014

Huntler wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Or maybe the skill is actually broken, as has been reported over a dozen times.

People have figured out a way to boost the immediate damage to a level bordering on ridiculous. There is a REASON everyone is using it, think about that for a second. People dont just mass switch to abilities willy nilly, nor does something become FOTM "because reasons"

There is obviously something wrong.

No, no this is not why people are using it. It is only broken if they use the unstable morph because the final explosion is uncapped. That is the only thing that needs to be fixed since uncapped is obviously unintended. People use it for that for the ulti generation and of course it being uncapped will hit a ton of people.

There is nothing else broken about it, everyone is using it now because the current meta and player skill is lacking horribly. Players are taking advantage of how stupid other players are (in standing in them continuously) coupled with in a big fight it can be difficult to see sometimes.

True but not true. People who are purged are taking more damage. People switched as soon as impulse nerfed.

Crogster · December 2014

There is a bug with this skill. Not telling you what it is or my post will be removed. Put walls of elements is bugging and will be fixed soon.

Gorthax · December 2014

Thechemicals wrote: »

Im protecting the spell that i believe is not overpowered. I dont believe you healed /blocked/moved/had all the crit protection/ overcharged spell resistance/ and are just a victim.

You know what i really think happened? You and your eg pug horde went somewhere and you rooted yourself in place, judging by the aoe markings im likely not far from the truth. You got hit by Elemental and stood there trying to heal through it...the damage over time hit and hit and so did the explosions, and there you were just standing in place.

Then you looked at the recap and somehow translated the explosion to be the source of the 1k damage when in fact it was just spam damage over time+explosion that killed you. He used it multiple times because you and the horde decided to play stationary punching bag. Reason i had to leave eg myself.

Its 3-4 ticks at 200+ damage and an explosion for another 300+.

200+ damage? no just no lol that is NOT how much it does.

WraithAzraiel · December 2014

Rylana wrote: »

Or maybe the skill is actually broken, as has been reported over a dozen times.

People have figured out a way to boost the immediate damage to a level bordering on ridiculous. There is a REASON everyone is using it, think about that for a second. People dont just mass switch to abilities willy nilly, nor does something become FOTM "because reasons"

There is obviously something wrong.

Oh hey look, someone agrees with me. Now to wait for all the chuckleheads to swoop in and defend the honor and integrity of the amazing skill that is Wall of Elements and it's morphs.

*waits*

Davadin · December 2014

Sypherpkub17_ESO wrote: »

I'm going to go out and do some controlled testing to put this case to rest....

Video will be up either tonight or tomorrow morning.

P.S I know for a fact that there isn't an exploit.

Where is it?

I want to know what's going on here.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌

Bane_of_Fringe · December 2014

1k damage, how the *** do you take 1k damage???

Davadin · December 2014

Bane_of_Fringe wrote: »

1k damage, how the *** do you take 1k damage???

By... having more than 1K health?