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Wall of Elements

Lord Stark
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Its broken as hell.. I am sick of it.. look at this screen shot and tell me its okay to go from not in combat to dead that quickly with this move.
Edited by Lord Stark on November 21, 2014 2:22PM
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  • Thechemicals
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    Can you link your gear as well?
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  • Valnas
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    walking into a pit of fire naked has its pitfalls ...

    negate ! Wait ! both! stacking 4 walls = 1k mag. bait, bait, NEGATE that ***.
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  • Keron
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    Top left corner.
    • iDPS: 1100
    • 4 attacks with 1.x k each.
    • means it has taken at least ~5 seconds standing in the blockade spam.
    Skill may be too strong or not, I won't judge. But in this case it's also about "move your ass feet!"
    Edited by Keron on November 20, 2014 2:25PM
  • Thechemicals
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    Maybe he was rooted and didnt want to dodge.
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  • Rylana
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    Or maybe the skill is actually broken, as has been reported over a dozen times.

    People have figured out a way to boost the immediate damage to a level bordering on ridiculous. There is a REASON everyone is using it, think about that for a second. People dont just mass switch to abilities willy nilly, nor does something become FOTM "because reasons"

    There is obviously something wrong.
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  • Keron
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    Maybe he was rooted and didnt want to dodge.
    Good point. Although in that case, other skills can and will produce similar results.
  • Huntler
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Or maybe the skill is actually broken, as has been reported over a dozen times.

    People have figured out a way to boost the immediate damage to a level bordering on ridiculous. There is a REASON everyone is using it, think about that for a second. People dont just mass switch to abilities willy nilly, nor does something become FOTM "because reasons"

    There is obviously something wrong.

    No, no this is not why people are using it. It is only broken if they use the unstable morph because the final explosion is uncapped. That is the only thing that needs to be fixed since uncapped is obviously unintended. People use it for that for the ulti generation and of course it being uncapped will hit a ton of people.

    There is nothing else broken about it, everyone is using it now because the current meta and player skill is lacking horribly. Players are taking advantage of how stupid other players are (in standing in them continuously) coupled with in a big fight it can be difficult to see sometimes.
  • Rooty
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    This is a L2P issue. Watch your feet more, you'll be fine. The only issue with wall is as Huntler stated.
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  • kevlarto_ESO
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    I think it is referred to as optimizing your game play, I can not say for sure it is broken, but since it is such a fotm, I kinda lean that way, and if indeed if it is and gets a fix, don't worry some players will be off to whatever else they optimize there game play with :wink:
    It would be nice to get an official word, so we can all stop speculating..:)

    Some hints, don't let yourself get lured into tight spaces, watch the breaches, and hey get yourself a destro staff and return the favor..LOL
    Edited by kevlarto_ESO on November 20, 2014 4:49PM
  • Thechemicals
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    It has a large radius that can hit a large number of players. The spell excells because of that large group of players...there is always a dit dit dit that doesnt move.
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  • Kypho
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    Rooty wrote: »
    This is a L2P issue. Watch your feet more, you'll be fine. The only issue with wall is as Huntler stated.

    lol one of the abusers i bet
  • Huntler
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    Kypho wrote: »
    Rooty wrote: »
    This is a L2P issue. Watch your feet more, you'll be fine. The only issue with wall is as Huntler stated.

    lol one of the abusers i bet

    No, one of the few players in this game/on these forums that understands game mechanics before crying exploit :|
  • Sallington
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    Rooty wrote: »
    This is a L2P issue. Watch your feet more, you'll be fine. The only issue with wall is as Huntler stated.

    What would be cool is if it actually showed the ground animation during large battles.
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  • Thechemicals
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    Sallington wrote: »
    Rooty wrote: »
    This is a L2P issue. Watch your feet more, you'll be fine. The only issue with wall is as Huntler stated.

    What would be cool is if it actually showed the ground animation during large battles.

    this i can stand behind. SO many animations very difficult to see in cyrodiil.
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  • SoulScream
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    You know it is just as bad from NPCS. We were taking a keep and I went from full health to dead before I could do anything. I thought hmm archers.. No I got hit by mage guard walls each for 1500.
  • Rooty
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    Kypho wrote: »
    Rooty wrote: »
    This is a L2P issue. Watch your feet more, you'll be fine. The only issue with wall is as Huntler stated.

    lol one of the abusers i bet

    I keep my crew alive. I don't often get the luxury of laughing at idiots standing in my avoidable ground AoE.
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  • Huntler
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    Rooty wrote: »
    Kypho wrote: »
    Rooty wrote: »
    This is a L2P issue. Watch your feet more, you'll be fine. The only issue with wall is as Huntler stated.

    lol one of the abusers i bet

    I keep my crew alive. I don't often get the luxury of laughing at idiots standing in my avoidable ground AoE.

    #healerproblems

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    Edited by Huntler on November 20, 2014 8:29PM
  • Lord Stark
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    Amongst a group of 30 enemies ONE guy hit me that quickly for almost 5k health..
    Why would you think that is normal or good for the game?
    Edited by Lord Stark on November 21, 2014 2:17PM
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  • Lord Stark
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    It has a large radius that can hit a large number of players. The spell excells because of that large group of players...there is always a dit dit dit that doesnt move.

    Doesn't mean the damage should be that high in that short of a time frame.
    Edited by Lord Stark on November 21, 2014 2:19PM
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  • Lord Stark
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    Valnas wrote: »
    walking into a pit of fire naked has its pitfalls ...

    negate ! Wait ! both! stacking 4 walls = 1k mag. bait, bait, NEGATE that ***.

    Was in full purple vr14 gear all repaired fully. JASS.
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  • Lord Stark
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    Rooty wrote: »
    This is a L2P issue. Watch your feet more, you'll be fine. The only issue with wall is as Huntler stated.

    Your opinion isn't valued by me or anyone else.
    Rylana wrote: »
    Or maybe the skill is actually broken, as has been reported over a dozen times.

    People have figured out a way to boost the immediate damage to a level bordering on ridiculous. There is a REASON everyone is using it, think about that for a second. People dont just mass switch to abilities willy nilly, nor does something become FOTM "because reasons"

    There is obviously something wrong.

    It doesn't matter what you do, if you don't have screen shots they say send screen shots to prove it, if you do, they find other things to harp on you about, I have been playing this game since 7 days before it came out and even longer counting beta, I played wow for 5 years, RIFT for a year, GW2... I know how to not stand in bad stuff..
    The people trolling on here saying I need to learn to play don't actually disagree with me, they are just a few of the *** that run around spamming said ability. They don't want it fixed because then they would have to learn to play themselves.
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  • Thechemicals
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    What we have here is an obvious pro who had everything, the gear, the skill, the tactics, yet was unfairly killed by wall of elements while among 30+ enemies. Although he is recieving heavy criticism, he remains under the belief that he is right and everyone else is a moron. GL in your future endeavors.
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  • Lord Stark
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    What we have here is an obvious pro who had everything, the gear, the skill, the tactics, yet was unfairly killed by wall of elements while among 30+ enemies. Although he is recieving heavy criticism, he remains under the belief that he is right and everyone else is a moron. GL in your future endeavors.

    Cool story
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  • Lord Stark
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    Give me the average dps of a Soulstrike or just spamming Lethal Arrow back to back.. and then tell me its fair for an AOE to pump out over 1.1k dps to a single target.

    Give me a single target move that hits that hard.. especially that isn't an ultimate.
    Edited by Lord Stark on November 21, 2014 2:19PM
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    All I can say is, "QQ more EG peep. It's not like the EG troll camper(who is in your nice SS) didn't bring this wonderful karma." Fire meet fire-- Elijah 3:16
    Edited by Gaettusk on November 21, 2014 2:23PM
  • Thechemicals
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    Daedric minefield, shattering prison, energy orb. silver shards, scalding rune, elemental blockade can all hit you for 1k+ if you arent wearing critical hit protection gear and if your spell resistance is garbarge...or both. Also...if you didnt block or move.

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  • Lord Stark
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    Chemicals dude you are assuming so much......... are you just trying do be a ***?

    I wear all light armor my spell res is overcharged, I heal and always blockcast.. and have 6 slots of impen. I know the basics.
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  • Lord Stark
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    The moving argument is old too, when you are stacked with 30 people on a flag taking in over 1k HPS as shown in the screen shot, you over power and stay stacked tight, you don't run like a pansy, and you damn sure don't die to 1 guys move without it being broken.
    Edited by Lord Stark on November 21, 2014 2:33PM
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  • Thechemicals
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    Im protecting the spell that i believe is not overpowered. I dont believe you healed /blocked/moved/had all the crit protection/ overcharged spell resistance/ and are just a victim.

    You know what i really think happened? You and your eg pug horde went somewhere and you rooted yourself in place, judging by the aoe markings im likely not far from the truth. You got hit by Elemental and stood there trying to heal through it...the damage over time hit and hit and so did the explosions, and there you were just standing in place.

    Then you looked at the recap and somehow translated the explosion to be the source of the 1k damage when in fact it was just spam damage over time+explosion that killed you. He used it multiple times because you and the horde decided to play stationary punching bag. Reason i had to leave eg myself.

    Its 3-4 ticks at 200+ damage and an explosion for another 300+.
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  • riverdragon72
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    I don't know how many of these shots I have, some are for over 4k for one hit and 90% of the time bolt escaping through a keep breach
    Meh...**** it..
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