ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just wanted to let you all know that we are currently investigating issues surrounding the LFG tool that's making it take much longer to find a group (if ever).

Any news if we are actually going to be able to use the LFG tool?
I have been trying since 1.5 was released and no luck. I put my role as healer dps and tank for all veteran and normal dungeons and it keeps searching for hours still...

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, are you seeing this issue across all selections in the LFG tool, or just certain ones (dungeons, PvE, Cyrodiil, etc.)

Can I also ask if it is possible to have it LFG tool also allow you to form a group when for World boss camps. Sorta stupidly boring having to sit hours on end till enough players want to complete one.

Audigy wrote: »

This is what you get for being rude to tanks and healers all the time, don't blame the tool, blame your attitude (those that are rude in dungeons).

So true. I really enjoy healing in ESO, because it is challenging, magicka intensive, and requires situational awareness. But the amount of slack you get from some pugs is beyond ***. Today I was healing the Wayrest Sewers pledge, and one particular dps kept standing in AoE or was sometimes just oneshotted because of some other reason. First thing he does is scream (in CAPS) "HEAL ME MAN!! -_-" and does so as well on other ocations where he was low health and near death at the end of a fight. Then the tank dies because he didn't dodge the heavy attack. I say in chat for someone to ress him. After the fight he gave me slack that it was the healer's job to ress.

Other examples are people calling for me to use Luminous Spear all the time, shout at me for not doing so, even when Im at 0 magicka because I just prevented them from dying.

It would help if people actually play a healer/tank themselves before shouting rude comments or commanding them to do stuff they are unable to do.

Iduyenn wrote: »

And to make the DF worth it; "While using the dungeonfinder, you gain 5 additional points for the Undaunted". Because if you go PUG`s you are truly undaunted!

Yup, nice idea.

There are some MMOs that already do this, LOTRO for one, which gives bonus currency and Rep for using the group finder.

No need to reinvent the wheel.

I dont want to be pushy, but you guys from Zenimax should realy not make a doctor before implementing some new stuff.

If you simply optimize your current groupfinder, there is no help for players, who would like to go only Vet 12+. So simply changing some minor things will not help. Because Vet 12 will leave the group and tree guys stand there...

You have to implement the things mentioned, or it will be unsattisfying for many players.

The goal is to bring ppl together.

- ppl, who don`t want to search for hours (And not hanging in one Zone only, because of the zone chat)
- ppl, who would like to acchieve a certain goal
- - Time limit
- - Acchievement
- - Efficiency (Dont die, dont wait, have to go to work after this...)

So Indicators for search should be:
-Instances (Not "ALL" or simply one... I need acchievements only from Wayrest, Spindle and Crypt, so i dont care about Elden Hollow...)
- Level range
- If you have an open system, as a group leader, you should have the possibility to choose from a list of players waiting for an invite. (Expirienced only, 1k dps only, NB only). I know... you dont want this, but it depends on how you design the classes. People will choose a proper setup, if you didnt balancing.

So either you make a small very fast system which just trows you into a group ASAP. Not bothering about level and such things.
Or you implement some settings so there is a possibility to have at least some saying about the goal of this group to be.

There should at least be those indicators:
- I am in a queue
- I have an estimate time of completing the search (There is something working ...)

This should be implemented ASAP, because its a game breaking issue. Many player simply dont want to use the broken grouping tool and spamming for hours in a chat isn`t satisfying at all.

again...

FIX IT

Edit; You could implement a global LFG Chat for ppl using the dungeon finder. Its not pretty, but until you fix this, this is a solution...

I think very much the same way as @Iduyenn‌ . LFG is approaching group forming from PuG member's viewpoint. It ignores group leaders. People are way more better making groups than any LFG AI. With LFG there is no control what kind of group is forming.

heroofnoneb14_ESO wrote: »

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- Display dungeon and trials progress in search function
....

DENIED

Everyone just join Dungeon Dwellers, there are ALWAYS some of us there that will run anything, anytime.

brandon wrote: »

guybrushtb16_ESO wrote: »

Right now, there are 4 simple steps to make the group finder work:

1. Point people towards it with the first undaunted quest, and give a reward for first using the groupfinder. Also, point people towards the undaunted when they first enter any dungeon. This may already be happening, but I've recently seen somebody with quite a high level without the undaunted skill line in a dungeon, so maybe it's not enough.
2. Faction barriers, get rid of them.
3. Scale players to the dungeon, not the dungeon to the player, the way gw2 does. This way, high level players who are in it for their undaunted points can fill the gaps in low level groups. The current system is useless because obviously nobody is going to want to do banished cells with you at level 38, it just doesn't help at all.
4. Swap Inner fire to undaunted level Anything to encourage more tanks. There are too many people who would tank, but won't completely respec their magicka build just for one dungeon. Bonus points for a dual spec system here.

I do realize that some of them may very well be a nightmare to code now, depending on how things work behind the scenes, but what I don't understand is why it wasn't like that to begin with. The current situation was very much to be expected IMO.

I agree with everything you have to say except removing faction barriers. There is a reason that they are there and it wouldn't make sense story wise for them to be removed. At least not while this 3 alliance story arc is going on.

Youre already 'helping' other alliances by doing 'their' dungeons. Might as well go all the way.

Circuitous wrote: »

If ESO's waiting for the four roles to be filled, it really needs a display indicating that potential slots are found. You'd think even a super basic one would be rolled out with that change.

I would like a complete overhaul of the entire menu UI. There are many features it's lacking across the board.

guybrushtb16_ESO wrote: »

Right now, there are 4 simple steps to make the group finder work:
2. Faction barriers, get rid of them.

I really like this one.

guybrushtb16_ESO wrote: »

I do realize that some of them may very well be a nightmare to code now, depending on how things work behind the scenes, but what I don't understand is why it wasn't like that to begin with. The current situation was very much to be expected IMO.

Everything is a nightmare for them to code anyway it seems.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, are you seeing this issue across all selections in the LFG tool, or just certain ones (dungeons, PvE, Cyrodiil, etc.)

I'm pretty sure that nobody has ever used it for anything other than dungeons.

Robocles wrote: »

It's not like ZOS can't track who's using it for what.

I wouldn't be so quick to be sure of what they can't do.

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

Cherryblossom wrote: »

brandon wrote: »

I agree with everything you have to say except removing faction barriers. There is a reason that they are there and it wouldn't make sense story wise for them to be removed. At least not while this 3 alliance story arc is going on.

Hope this is not a spoiler, but your point is not Valid as they make all toons play every single faction, so there is no reason not to combine.

You're correct about that. However there is in fact a story reason behind that, it isn't just you randomly being allowed into their territory. When you finish your faction you are allowed to go to the other factions so that you can see what it would have been like if you chose their side.

^Spoiler alert... Does anyone else feel like this was implemented at the last minute and they just couldn't think of anything else?

Very much so. I really think they could have come up with something better. Like being spies/saboteurs working against the other factions but helping the 'little people' and fighting daedra (because theyre a common threat to everyone). Or being part of a cross faction task force led by the guilds to fend off daedric incursions and schemes.

It is Fixed!!

I had to wait a while before the mobs would spawn , but I think that's because a lot of players are doing the same quest.