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Another 1.5.x. XP gain - thingy
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Robocles✭✭✭✭✭lordspyder wrote: »I say again how do so many people miss that quests are bugged too?
Because this is the case only for a few quests.
And the vast majority of quests are not that difficult... I firmly believe not even all of Cadwell's are difficult enough to qualify.
My best guess: 2 maybe 3 quests max per zone are affected.
All who now believe/hope that after the next patch quest XP gain will be back to "sane" levels are delusional - there is no other way to say it.
It's over, there are no more shortcuts to gain VR levels at a decent speed.
And because now even a full completion of a zone does not give nearly enough for a full level the only way to go is to "grind" the daily undaunted quests for a long time...
This greatly benefits the casual players (maybe an hour or two per day on average) and stops the "power-gamers" dead in their tracks because even if you want to quest more you can not get more than those two daily quests.
Which in turn is a good thing - for Z's coffers because the more dailies you need to finish a level the longer you need to keep paying your subscription...
Um... not for this subscriber.1 -
lordspyder✭✭✭✭✭I'm pretty sure it's the main zone quests that are affected, and there was only like 4 of them. In the old VP system those 4 quests were like 75 - 80% of your VR then the rest of the zone was like 20 - 25%. So if those are the bugged quests, that very well make it so we go back to getting 1 VR per zone again.4 -
JessieColt✭✭✭✭THIS IS A JOKE
I don't want to spend around a year to get to v14.
You wont.
When the Champion system is fully implemented there will be NO vet levels anymore.
You will hit level 50 and stop gaining rank, only XP, that will accumulate and be used towards skill points.
Because the changes are so huge, and affect such a large portion of the game, these changes have to be implemented in phases.
This is phase 1.
In no way is this the final way things will work.
We are only seeing Vet levels because those haven't been addressed yet. But will be in another phase.
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akalabethb14_ESO✭✭✭JessieColt wrote: »THIS IS A JOKE
I don't want to spend around a year to get to v14.
You wont.
When the Champion system is fully implemented there will be NO vet levels anymore.
You will hit level 50 and stop gaining rank, only XP, that will accumulate and be used towards skill points.
Because the changes are so huge, and affect such a large portion of the game, these changes have to be implemented in phases.
This is phase 1.
In no way is this the final way things will work.
We are only seeing Vet levels because those haven't been addressed yet. But will be in another phase.
** that phasing ***. Deploy the system when its ready, don't screw over your subscribers...
It was a way for them to stretch leveling out (aka more money).
You have no idea how the final system will work, and if it anything like the way it works now (It doesn't) they won't have very many subscribers left.4 -
JessieColt✭✭✭✭akalabethb14_ESO wrote: »JessieColt wrote: »THIS IS A JOKE
I don't want to spend around a year to get to v14.
You wont.
When the Champion system is fully implemented there will be NO vet levels anymore.
You will hit level 50 and stop gaining rank, only XP, that will accumulate and be used towards skill points.
Because the changes are so huge, and affect such a large portion of the game, these changes have to be implemented in phases.
This is phase 1.
In no way is this the final way things will work.
We are only seeing Vet levels because those haven't been addressed yet. But will be in another phase.
** that phasing ***. Deploy the system when its ready, don't screw over your subscribers...
It was a way for them to stretch leveling out (aka more money).
You have no idea how the final system will work, and if it anything like the way it works now (It doesn't) they won't have very many subscribers left.
1. The deploy has to be in phases because of the huge change to the system. They have to ensure that each step works first.
2. If this was a money sink for them, they would have found far better ways to eke out more money from the player base. This would not have been their choice, no matter how hated they are by the users.
3. You are right, I have no idea what the final system will be like, which is why I am not complaining NOW about something that isn't fully implemented.
The system DOES work now. Just not the way we are used to, and in many cases, not the way the users want it to work.
You are getting Xp
You are getting loot
You are getting achievements
You are able to quest
You are able to run dungeons
You are able to participate in all areas of the game that you were able to do so before the release.
With the few exceptions of really broken stuff (Consumable Alchemy Writs not updating), everything still works. Just not the way you and many others want/like.
It was changed. No one likes change. It is upsetting and confusing.
It takes a while to get used to it. Some adapt better than others. Some never adapt.
The whole point of my post is that this is all temporary. Yeah, it is a pain in the butt for the moment. But this isn't the final product and until the final product is fully released NONE of us know how these intermin changes will impact the final product.
The best thing to do is work with the way it is now and wait and see how things progress through the next phases of the roll out for the Champion system.
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Lhorion✭✭✭✭✭Mumyo is complaining about the fact that Zenimax told is they want to make our way to V14 faster. But they made this way much longer!
The year he was talking about was an example for the time he would need to show how stupid this changes are.
Yea the champion system is coming and yea the veteran system will not exist,
BUT this thread is about this first phase which is really bad.
There is no reason for making the way longer than before.
There is no reason for making it longer when you wanted to make it shorter!3 -
akalabethb14_ESO✭✭✭JessieColt wrote: »akalabethb14_ESO wrote: »JessieColt wrote: »THIS IS A JOKE
I don't want to spend around a year to get to v14.
You wont.
When the Champion system is fully implemented there will be NO vet levels anymore.
You will hit level 50 and stop gaining rank, only XP, that will accumulate and be used towards skill points.
Because the changes are so huge, and affect such a large portion of the game, these changes have to be implemented in phases.
This is phase 1.
In no way is this the final way things will work.
We are only seeing Vet levels because those haven't been addressed yet. But will be in another phase.
** that phasing ***. Deploy the system when its ready, don't screw over your subscribers...
It was a way for them to stretch leveling out (aka more money).
You have no idea how the final system will work, and if it anything like the way it works now (It doesn't) they won't have very many subscribers left.
1. The deploy has to be in phases because of the huge change to the system. They have to ensure that each step works first.
2. If this was a money sink for them, they would have found far better ways to eke out more money from the player base. This would not have been their choice, no matter how hated they are by the users.
3. You are right, I have no idea what the final system will be like, which is why I am not complaining NOW about something that isn't fully implemented.
The system DOES work now. Just not the way we are used to, and in many cases, not the way the users want it to work.
You are getting Xp
You are getting loot
You are getting achievements
You are able to quest
You are able to run dungeons
You are able to participate in all areas of the game that you were able to do so before the release.
With the few exceptions of really broken stuff (Consumable Alchemy Writs not updating), everything still works. Just not the way you and many others want/like.
It was changed. No one likes change. It is upsetting and confusing.
It takes a while to get used to it. Some adapt better than others. Some never adapt.
The whole point of my post is that this is all temporary. Yeah, it is a pain in the butt for the moment. But this isn't the final product and until the final product is fully released NONE of us know how these intermin changes will impact the final product.
The best thing to do is work with the way it is now and wait and see how things progress through the next phases of the roll out for the Champion system.
I can appreciate your well thought out post. Unfortunately, my only recourse is to come back once the champion system is 100% phased in.1 -
Mumyo✭✭✭✭✭JessieColt wrote: »THIS IS A JOKE
I don't want to spend around a year to get to v14.
You wont.
When the Champion system is fully implemented there will be NO vet levels anymore.
You will hit level 50 and stop gaining rank, only XP, that will accumulate and be used towards skill points.
Because the changes are so huge, and affect such a large portion of the game, these changes have to be implemented in phases.
This is phase 1.
In no way is this the final way things will work.
We are only seeing Vet levels because those haven't been addressed yet. But will be in another phase.
Would love to now why that is "sooooo huge" of course this can be implemented in the game as one big piece and not these stupid steps which are only eating our time.
The point is that a v14 did his work on the champion system allready and the people that level now will take way more time to be competetive to the other characters.
If Zenimax was smart they would have cared about the players opinions. They would have way more players now. Feels like 80% are gone allready and another 5% left now. I have many friends losing interest in the game. Grinding and stupid questing till the doc comes is not what i play this game for.1