To the AD lagbombing thornblade with the noob batswarm/impulse/wall of elements/healing springs spam

Dragonslayer_2014 · November 2014

Maulkin · November 2014

But...I thought the removal of forward camps was going to solve both zergs and lag?

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Rylana · November 2014

Pretty sure its the blue brandonzerg causing the lions share of the lag.

Also, six times 999+ tonight, a new record.

LonePirate · November 2014

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

But...I thought the removal of forward camps was going to solve both zergs and lag?

I have seen next to no backpedaling from those people who made this claim. Evidently somebody in Cyrodiil must be selling amnesia potions.

StienDeath · November 2014

funny the Brandon/Stien zerg is only like 20 peeps at a time..

Rylana · November 2014

StienDeath wrote: »

funny the Brandon/Stien zerg is only like 20 peeps at a time..

lolno, there were well over 40 at ash a few minutes ago. 15-20 on each flag simultaneously.

StienDeath · November 2014

didn't know we had that many lol

Cody · November 2014

I am going to assume its the new blockade or whatever exploit that the Elite guilds have started using.

jk. im sure they still find ways to lagblob in cyrodill, even without FCs

Scamandros · November 2014

Or if all 3 factions are experiencing it maybe its just because ZOS has actually made a crap game and the lag is worse then ever

david.haypreub18_ESO · November 2014

I always thought the nerf to oils needed to be put on hold, and the new zergbuster AvA skill needed to be implemented, so that all of these things happened at the same time. You can't really nerf oils and at the same time not add the zerbuster skill and expect the Zergs to be anything but dominant.

Sanct16 · November 2014

Forward Camps just make bombgroups stronger... They profit from it like 100 times more than everyone else.

stylepolice · November 2014

Sanct16 wrote: »

Forward Camps just make bombgroups stronger... They profit from it like 100 times more than everyone else.

I strongly disagree with this. FCs made bombgroups reappear faster - but it also meant that the people who got killed by the bomb group could be back faster.

If both had to /rel and come back to the fight, the bomb grps will use maxed light horses and definitely run faster then the pugs, small mans, guild grps (or in short, all players with less organization) and will just waltz through all people trying to stop them on the way.
Add the effect that as long as the bomb grp has some numbers left they can move back on their path and "hoover" up all dead players.

With a camp in the keep all the people maning the outer wall who got killed by the rushing bomb-grp can come back and try to continue the fight. Now they have to /rel, reorg (against all those Legolols) and run back. By that time the bomb grp has captured the keep 5 times over.

bottom line: if you didn't win against a bomb group using FCs (on both sides), then you definitely won't do so now.

Sanct16 · November 2014

Well IF they die they are out, ofc.
But unlike the randoms they mowe down, they wont die now unless vs a massive pug zerg or another train.

stylepolice · November 2014

That is what I am saying: FCs help bomb grps - but the PUGs profit from the FCs 100 times more then the bomb grps (because you dont get a massive pug zerg without FCs, as the PUGs die one after the other and can't come back on the spot until they reach critical mass and wipe the bomb grp).

Davadin · November 2014

http://youtu.be/gWn2FRqsSDE

Highlights:
1. 1:32 the zerg arrived. 1:35 you can see the Ping rocketed to 800+
2. 2:40 I started swinging and slashing. You can see on the add-on that nothing's registering with 300+ ping.
3. Again at 3:20 I'm standing behind an enemy, swinging, slashing, everything.... nothing. I was bashing my keys too and I'm not moving my sword at all...

(in glorious 1080 60fps YouTube nonetheless!)

Sanct16 · November 2014

Ohhhh sorry my bad!!!!

Wanted to write that the camp REMOVE makes the bombgroups just stronger!!

DaggerfallTradeMasters · November 2014

Davadin wrote: »

http://youtu.be/gWn2FRqsSDE

Highlights:
1. 1:32 the zerg arrived. 1:35 you can see the Ping rocketed to 800+
2. 2:40 I started swinging and slashing. You can see on the add-on that nothing's registering with 300+ ping.
3. Again at 3:20 I'm standing behind an enemy, swinging, slashing, everything.... nothing. I was bashing my keys too and I'm not moving my sword at all...

(in glorious 1080 60fps YouTube nonetheless!)

Nice clip btw YouTube made it 60FPS but left bottom says 26

stylepolice · November 2014

Real Highlight: all those Legolols plinking away with their arrows. Elder Bows Online at its best.

(edited to remove "on the walls", because actually them Legolols are standing everywhere...)

Ifthir_ESO · November 2014

stylepolice wrote: »

Real Highlight: all those Legolols plinking away with their arrows. Elder Bows Online at its best.

(edited to remove "on the walls", because actually them Legolols are standing everywhere...)

And the 1052345843568 gandalfs wearing dresses and holding sticks felt sad.

Columba · November 2014

stylepolice wrote: »

Real Highlight: all those Legolols plinking away with their arrows. Elder Bows Online at its best.

(edited to remove "on the walls", because actually them Legolols are standing everywhere...)

Lol. Ive been bow specced since beta, pal. Sorry you don't have god mode anymore,

Lord_Draevan · November 2014

At least now when you wipe a zerg they're gone for at least a few minutes, not back in 0.2 seconds :disagree:

Vorpan · November 2014

The servers are garbage, the tech team is clueless, and all three alliances have noob batswarm/impulse/wall of elements/healing springs spam.

I blame ZOS.

jnjapexb14_ESO · November 2014

I agree all factions have large groups, this is a WAR after all, and getting the "most'est there the fast'est" wins wars no matter what the leet want. In regards to removal of forward camps blunting zergs, that does not seem to be panning out. AD zerg used to be maybe 50 people now it's more like 100 and for obvious reasons. Dying now is a lot more inconvenient, so like you leets all say just die less and one way to do that is just to run with more people.

The lag is pretty horrible, even for typically horrible ESO lag.

Zintair · November 2014

I think it is really unfair that certain gameplay styles impede on server performance. What a wonderful world it would be if people could actually all be on the screen together fighting each other and not have to worry about...

siege bugging
lay down electric slide bug (so annoying)
crashes
spam fests at flags that give you carpal tunnel
etc
etc
etc

Columba · November 2014

Impulse monkey spamming should be like chat spamming. Too much and you get kicked to login.

Kungfu · November 2014

@ OP:
Oh ffs what I would freaking give for ZOS to find and fix their little lag issues. Perhaps, if the code monkeys back there had come up in the C days, they would be HANDLING their pointers & memory instead of depending on poorly written garbage collectors.

All PUGs have to do to combat bomb groups is:

LEARN TO REZ FRIENDLIES.

It is now to your benefit to stop and rez some stranger.
The only problem I really see PUGs having without FCs is that they're still too self-centered to rez their dead.

Once they learn that, it will be a lot harder to completely wipe them when they scatter like roaches in light.

Aerrimus · November 2014

Maybe this is why other games have a GCD?

Armitas · November 2014

Aerrimus wrote: »

Maybe this is why other games have a GCD?

MiyaTheUnbroken · November 2014

Rylana wrote: »

Pretty sure its the blue brandonzerg causing the lions share of the lag.

Also, six times 999+ tonight, a new record.

Is the Brandonzerg the same group as the Hovafriends?

Lava_Croft · November 2014

Columba wrote: »

Impulse monkey spamming should be like chat spamming. Too much and you get kicked to login.

Yeah, do the same to the monkeys spamming snipes. Right?

Columba · November 2014

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Columba wrote: »

Impulse monkey spamming should be like chat spamming. Too much and you get kicked to login.

Yeah, do the same to the monkeys spamming snipes. Right?

fine with me. spamming snipe isn't that effective. better to rotate skills.