What?

Different traits on sets is a good thing. Most sets were unusable due to the trait (no impenetrable, junk like exploration or sturdy). Now you have a chance to use any set with any trait you want.

I think there should be "favored" traits for some sets. Warlock set should "favor" divines, but if you are lucky/unlucky you can find pieces in another trait. It should be 50% of the time the piece drops with the divines trait, and 50% of the time it's another random trait.

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

Sadly, there are better sets from drops - which is why I'm asking for change.

If I ever get a 5 piece set from drops, then I will see if they are better. Until then it is all theoretical to me. Since I have yet in this game ever gotten all 5 pieces from a set, any set, the dropped sets are always worse than the crafted sets. I have 800 hours into the game, and I farm dungeons for loot (its more fun than farming for mats). So I have spent the time looking for these things.

For example, I can get 4 Robes of the Warlock, 3 Cowls, 3 Rings, 1 epaulet, but if I don't get the necklace, it does not matter. This has gone on with every dropped set I have come across, I get 2 to 4 pieces of the set, never the 5th. Based on that, the ones I make are better than the ones that drop and I always have control over what I am getting. Elegant, Claws of the Dragon, Ice Furnace, you name it, I have a partial set.

Even if I were to get all 5 pieces I would still have to craft something to fix the wholes in my gear as far as sets goes, so I just craft my sets and don't worry about the dropped sets other than fodder for the guild stores or more often, deconstruction for mats.

And, yes I have looked at buying parts or entire dropped sets from the stores. Finding all 5 pieces is just as much a snipe hunt as going out looting for it.

So, to me, Crafted Sets will always be better than dropped sets.

Kalman wrote: »

Or make it where crafters can learn to make that set item. They have to research the item and it always takes 30 days (no new crafters being able to crank em out fast). New skill that is a level 50 in craft needed. Needs some kind of resource to create researched set item, maybe something that you have a chance to get from breaking down set items.

That would be a way around the issue. Have to know a certain number of traits, and to have deconstructed the piece in question in order to make it.

Jewlerycrafting, craft trait-gems that you can change and apply to armor/weapons.

?? idea

itt: people upset that the world isn't perfect.

Crafting fixes that problem. Random loot is random.

I think I will avoid any thread with the word garbage in it, because most likely it will be full of negative nancies screaming free to play or that life isnt fair.

Posting non constructive critism does not get you anywhere.

And there is still no items with Nirnhorned trait in loot tables even with this randomness :P

SG_Celerrimus wrote: »

They now have randomized traits on gear so that the sets that would have been awesome, but had really dumb traits like reinforced or well-fitted, might actually get good ones like divines. Yes, it hurts some good gear, but it gives other good gear a chance at being really good. Just gotta roll with it and stop QQing.

Well, I for one agree that rewards are definitely disporportionate between crafting and drops. A full purple infused vr14 set of your choice is extremely easy and quick to get right now; farm a few mats, buy some more stuff from auction houses and tip a crafter if you don't have one of your own, done. You might as well craft a seperate pvp set and some other set items while you're at it, it's still doable in a day, assuming you don't have most of the stuff just lying around gathering dust anyway.

Now try the same with undaunted sets. I don't even know if weapons or jewelry are in the same pool, just rolling (armor type = 1 of 3)*(set bonus = 1 of 2)*(trait = 1 of 8) right for a full set will take months, if not years if you don't start just buying stuff from others at some point. Even the whole process of levelling an entirely new crafting character just for that would still be a lot faster than that.

I for one would greatly appreciate if they could give us a "recraft" option for crafters, that allows us to change traits while keeping everything else at least. And allow us to change styles as well, because not having equipment customization at endgame anymore is just weird.

magnusnet wrote: »

IMO traits should be limited to the most used ones or we should have the ability to modify the traits as crafters (preferably in Update 6).

God your missing a point here, if they limit it to popular traits, then the unpopular traits will disappear, so nobody will have the option of using them, at which point people will be complaining about the limited trait options.

Making popular traits fall more often is as far as any game should go, no more than that. Even then people will be complaining they can't get a trait for a piece of gear, you know for the rarity value.

magnusnet wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

magnusnet wrote: »

IMO traits should be limited to the most used ones or we should have the ability to modify the traits as crafters (preferably in Update 6).

God your missing a point here, if they limit it to popular traits, then the unpopular traits will disappear, so nobody will have the option of using them, at which point people will be complaining about the limited trait options.

Making popular traits fall more often is as far as any game should go, no more than that. Even then people will be complaining they can't get a trait for a piece of gear, you know for the rarity value.

You have a valid point, then again, giving out armor for end game chars with useless traits such as exploration and sturdy is totally useless. Wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea for them to disappear from the end game.

Ok, I can go for that, removing them from end game gear would be alright, provided they don't add more areas, making Exploration useful again.

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

I'm sick of stamina on light armor. I'm sick of exploration, well-fitted, reinforced and sturdy on chest, leg and head pieces. I'm also sick of stupid sets that has Divines traits on everything. Generally, I'm pretty much sick of your random crap ZOS. Is it too much to ask for that you actually spend some time and add optimal traits to the items? If you're not going to bother, then at least allow crafters to CHANGE the traits...

Also, since when does end-game players need exploration on end-game PvE gear?

Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but wasn't that supposed to be the upside of crafting?

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

Guild merchants. Use them. Any set piece you want.

I think you missed this part.

Nestor wrote: »

And, yes I have looked at buying parts or entire dropped sets from the stores. Finding all 5 pieces is just as much a snipe hunt as going out looting for it.