Short term housing or prefer to wait?
MornaBaine
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ZoS has pretty much said that the idea of player housing is wayyyyy on the back burner. It is never mentioned as anything they are currently working on. I would be VERY surprised if they ever began working on it at all until this game is at least a year old. Some folks have said, "Gezz, can't we have SOMETHING in the meantime?" Well, here is one idea for "short term housing" while we wait.
The banker in one city in each zone will now have a "buy house" option. There will be 2 choices, 1 room and 2 rooms. The 2 room house will have an upstairs room with a bed and a chest that will hold some items (however many ZoS in their "generosity" decides to give us) while downstairs will have a cook fire, a desk, a table, and a chest and whatever set decorations ZoS decides to give us. The 1 room house will have everything I've mentioned but will only have 1 storage chest. The "house" itself will be one of the non-owned houses in the city and that will serve as the entrance to your instanced house. This will be a private instance available only to you and anyone you have grouped with you. The "house" itself will be in the style of the area you purchased it in and will only be available to you in that city so choose wisely. Each character may purchase their own house. They should be about the same price as one of the more expensive horses though, of course, the 1 room should be half the cost of the 2 room. No chairs in the house as ZoS has not yet figured out a way for us to sit on existing furniture. You can use the /sitchair emote to sit at your table or desk. We will need to be able to sell our houses back to the bank for what we paid for them in order to have those funds available when the "real" housing finally comes out. No decor, no trophy displays, etc until such time as the "real" housing is introduced.
Essentially, the only thing such "housing" would give you is some extra storage space and a private instance for roleplay. If ZoS wanted to be really nice you might get a small health or stamina buff on log in if you log off while in your house.
So here's the question: Would you find this desirable and want to see ZoS do it as soon as possible? Or would you prefer to have no housing at all while you wait for ZoS to finally come up with something more elaborate, however long that might take?
Edited by MornaBaine on November 4, 2014 5:24PM The banker in one city in each zone will now have a "buy house" option. There will be 2 choices, 1 room and 2 rooms. The 2 room house will have an upstairs room with a bed and a chest that will hold some items (however many ZoS in their "generosity" decides to give us) while downstairs will have a cook fire, a desk, a table, and a chest and whatever set decorations ZoS decides to give us. The 1 room house will have everything I've mentioned but will only have 1 storage chest. The "house" itself will be one of the non-owned houses in the city and that will serve as the entrance to your instanced house. This will be a private instance available only to you and anyone you have grouped with you. The "house" itself will be in the style of the area you purchased it in and will only be available to you in that city so choose wisely. Each character may purchase their own house. They should be about the same price as one of the more expensive horses though, of course, the 1 room should be half the cost of the 2 room. No chairs in the house as ZoS has not yet figured out a way for us to sit on existing furniture. You can use the /sitchair emote to sit at your table or desk. We will need to be able to sell our houses back to the bank for what we paid for them in order to have those funds available when the "real" housing finally comes out. No decor, no trophy displays, etc until such time as the "real" housing is introduced.
Essentially, the only thing such "housing" would give you is some extra storage space and a private instance for roleplay. If ZoS wanted to be really nice you might get a small health or stamina buff on log in if you log off while in your house.
So here's the question: Would you find this desirable and want to see ZoS do it as soon as possible? Or would you prefer to have no housing at all while you wait for ZoS to finally come up with something more elaborate, however long that might take?
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Short term housing or prefer to wait? 127 votes
Yes, I would really like to have short term housing as described above.
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29 votes
No, I want there to be no housing at all until such time as ZOS finally introduces whatever housing they have planned.
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I don't care if we ever have housing, not interested in it.
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I want some other kind of "short term" housing. (Please describe in comments.)
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I want a sweetroll shop! With coffee!
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✭✭No, I want there to be no housing at all until such time as ZOS finally introduces whatever housing they have planned.What part of "housing is a long way off", do you not get?5 -
Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I would really like to have short term housing as described above.The only reason I want a house is for storage. That is all I used them for in earlier games was to store and or display my swag. So, give me a shanty someplace with a chest and I will be happy.
Unless of course the chest only has 10 bag slots in it, then I will have much less interest in the house.Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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✭Yes, I would really like to have short term housing as described above.So in the end , it is extra bag space and a zone where others wont bother you, well not much i guess.
Then again , why not , it is a start."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Rumba1✭✭✭I want some other kind of "short term" housing. (Please describe in comments.)I'm more of an RPer than most I guess.
The space issue is mostly inconsequential, I'd just like to have a place where my toons don't feel like they're camping out.
Or put another way, someplace that the characters call home, rather than living like a hobo. Even if all they keep there is a spare raincoat.
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✭No, I want there to be no housing at all until such time as ZOS finally introduces whatever housing they have planned.I'd mostly prefer to wait. I feel like housing could stay on the back burner longer than intended if they have a "we'll at least we have this placeholder" phrase to throw around.Edited by BBSooner on November 4, 2014 8:29PM2 -
Jackets_Fan✭✭I want a sweetroll shop! With coffee!I would say more if I thought it was going to happen at any point. But I just don't see it1
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✭Yes, I would really like to have short term housing as described above.I'd settle for anything related to housing.
Edited by Evergnar on November 4, 2014 8:49PM9 -
bedlom✭✭✭✭✭
✭I want some other kind of "short term" housing. (Please describe in comments.)This is elder scrolls. We shouldn't have to wait years for housing.6 -
Nerouyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, I would really like to have short term housing as described above.I've had the same thought myself a few times.
Housing is one of the defining features of the single-player games. Without it ESO feels less ES'ey.
The major downside to half-arsed housing just to get it in is it will be compared to both more robust housing in the single-player games and other MMOs... and found lacking.
On balance though, I think just getting something in which includes much needed additional storage, would be better than waiting.2 -
goodexample✭✭I want some other kind of "short term" housing. (Please describe in comments.)I need something that make`s this es world seem more.. idk, real! Something besides the continuously moob killing-spree content. Seriously zeni, no more run through a dungeon as fast as u can spamming aoe please, its soooo boring. There is countless of hack and slash games out there that i can play for free, for subs u should come up with something more. Please consider making some chill, relaxing stuff to get a break once in a while from the everlasting carnage. Was it not mentioned horse racing once? Is gambling in the picture? I thought that housing would be one priority, guess i was wrong, how sad. well, cant have it all can we. But how about making the character selection from inside a home hub thingy?? kind of like they did on dust514 on console. That would be an start that could easily be expanded on. I dnk .. tired its late2
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deleted221205-002626✭✭✭✭✭I want a sweetroll shop! With coffee!Adding features n introducing new things is the best part of an mmo that you play for years! Why everyone wants everything thinkable right this very second is beyond me. Id rather wait and have my own plot of land with a house i built with my bare hands on it and lord help any ad/dc that set foot on it
Edited by deleted221205-002626 on November 4, 2014 11:13PM2 -
MercyKilling✭✭✭✭✭No, I want there to be no housing at all until such time as ZOS finally introduces whatever housing they have planned.It's good that you're coming up with alternatives....but I'd rather wait than have something that's hastily implemented.I am not spending a single penny on the game until changes are made to the game that I want to see.
1) Remove having to be in a guild to sell items to other players at a kiosk.
2) Cosmetic modding for armor and clothing.
3) Difficulty slider.
4) Fully customizable player housing that isn't tied to anything in the game other than having the correct resources and enough gold to build. Don't tie it to PvP, guild membership, or anything at all. Oh, make it instanced so as not to take up world map space, too. Zeni screwed this one up already.
Any /one/ of these things implemented would get me spending again, maybe even subbing.2 -
Leeric✭✭✭✭No, I want there to be no housing at all until such time as ZOS finally introduces whatever housing they have planned.Do it right or don't do it.4
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I would really like to have short term housing as described above.I think some of the problem here is that the makers of MMOs have yet to figure out that we're ready for the next gen in MMO gaming. We want the RPG back in MMORPG. Right now most new MMOs only have the following to offer: KILL PEOPLE/MONSTERS/CREATURES AND TAKE THEIR STUFF! WITH BETTER GRAPHICS, 'CAUSE WE'RE NEW! Well that's not all a lot of players want anymore. We ALSO want all the stuff that happens BETWEEN the epic battles. We want the taverns and the drinking and a hearth of our own and hey maybe even a little romance! Maybe we even want a kid! Ok, I don't want the kid but that little moppet you could adopt in Skyrim WAS pretty freakin' adorable. And the little girl vampire? Precious! But here we are in a world with NO kids. It's kinda creepy. We want it to feel like our characters could really be living these crazy lives. And without so much as the ability to change our hairstyle, let alone have a place to call home, that just isn't going to happen. Now I know some people will not be able to resist swooping in to tell us to go play Second Life but the problem with THAT game (well, there are many, mostly a lot of creepers!) is that we don't get the high adventure games like ESO offers. We want it ALL! And with 2015 right around the corner I'm not sure why we don't have it yet.PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!8 -
Atuf✭I want a sweetroll shop! With coffee!I've been master architect in Skyrim since Oct.'12, had a trophy house and a (materials-)storage house and a library house with an indoor garden for cultivating alchemy ingredients. To have this extra storage space was great, but to be bluntly honest I found being able to display and mount trophy's and rewarded weapons to be the coolest thing, if only Skyrim had been multiplayer (so I'd been able to show off this legendary collection of rarities to my friends, duh). Many of patient years later, finally able to play Elder Scrolls online and an alt's inventory full of trophy's that many (me, mostly) have died for, and no place to display them at. So yeah, I need a sweetroll and coffee(shop), or I might cry.2
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✭✭✭✭✭I want some other kind of "short term" housing. (Please describe in comments.)Your housing idea is close to what I would like to see... a few tweaks though. I don't think it should be "one room or two room" choice.
INITAL HOME RELEASE- Each city should have ONE house that can be purchased by players.
- If the player doesn't own the house, they should be able to visit the house in a public instance.
- The house should be pre-decorated.
- Players should be able to place items in whatever containers/dressers/desks are in the house.
- Homes should NOT be able to be sold back to the city.
- cooking spit/pot should be in the fire
FUTURE UPDATES (Prior to fully buildable homes)- Each home should be able to be upgraded to be able to be freely decorated. All the items already in the home is the starting furniture set.
- Furniture with items in it should not be able to be moved/deleted/altered in any way.
- "resting" in your home should have in-game stat benefits of some sort ( http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/137394/expanded-rested-bonus-concept#latest )
- inviting friends/party should be part of owning a home.
- "Pet slots" in the home should be able to be purchased so you can let your vanity pets wander about your home by itself.
- mannequins should be able to be purchased that you can place armor on.
- wall-mounts for weapons and shields should be available.
- use-able furniture with appropriate animations (specifically Chairs & Beds)
- various crafting tables and desks should be available to purchase for the home.
What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
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✭✭✭✭✭No, I want there to be no housing at all until such time as ZOS finally introduces whatever housing they have planned.if your going to do something, then do it the right way and make it right the first time.
dont make housing untill its going to be done properly.2 -
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✭✭No, I want there to be no housing at all until such time as ZOS finally introduces whatever housing they have planned.As much as I'd love to see housing ASAP, I'd rather wait for ZoS to implement it properly. A temporary solution wouldn't work for me.Wololo.3 -
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✭✭Yes, I would really like to have short term housing as described above.They should just give us all a shack as a starter home for the interim, as a subscriber loyalty reward.
Then go make all the other housing things happen, and put tons of effort into it.
But just give us a starter shack now, come on ZOS.2 -
wookiefriseur✭✭✭✭No, I want there to be no housing at all until such time as ZOS finally introduces whatever housing they have planned.MornaBaine wrote: »[...]No chairs in the house as ZoS has not yet figured out a way for us to sit on existing furniture. You can use the /sitchair emote to sit at your table or desk. [...]
Very nice, had to grin at that.
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I'm against temporary solutions as they tend to turn into permanent ones. I'd rather wait for something good, although I like your ideas.Hides-His-Nose - EU2 -
Louis✭✭✭No, I want there to be no housing at all until such time as ZOS finally introduces whatever housing they have planned.if they are going to do this. they must do this correctly and not rushed.
i for one would love to have the housing and as much free will as possible to create my own house, that being said there are lots of things ZoS should fix before worrying about this maybe say when the game is actually complete.alot of people look at this signature, i guess youre one of them.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I would really like to have short term housing as described above.if they are going to do this. they must do this correctly and not rushed.
i for one would love to have the housing and as much free will as possible to create my own house, that being said there are lots of things ZoS should fix before worrying about this maybe say when the game is actually complete.
So....about the 1st of Never then?
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You forgot an option: I want no housing ever of any kind.
Housing kills the community in an MMO. Towns get empty and boring. Housing killed Asheron's Call which had a great community spirit until everyone started owning house and apartments. One day it was a party and the day after the housing patch it was suburbia, boring and empty. The smartest thing ZoS did was put only one bank per zone to concentrate people.
I much prefer ESO to WOW but it has no housing and I hope ZoS does the same. One of the WOW leads said "housing will be introduced to World of Warcraft some time right after "never"." I would like to hear the same from ZoS.3 -
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✭✭Yes, I would really like to have short term housing as described above.whbaresb14_ESO wrote: »You forgot an option: I want no housing ever of any kind.
Housing kills the community in an MMO. Towns get empty and boring. Housing killed Asheron's Call which had a great community spirit until everyone started owning house and apartments. One day it was a party and the day after the housing patch it was suburbia, boring and empty. The smartest thing ZoS did was put only one bank per zone to concentrate people.
I much prefer ESO to WOW but it has no housing and I hope ZoS does the same. One of the WOW leads said "housing will be introduced to World of Warcraft some time right after "never"." I would like to hear the same from ZoS.
Player housing is an Elder Scrolls thing, the game is generic without being able to own houses.
In this game we should be able to own multiple houses, should be a huge game system in itself.
I'd like to see them start the ball rolling by giving us a shack.Edited by babylon on November 5, 2014 11:59AM4 -
The_Sadist✭✭✭✭✭No, I want there to be no housing at all until such time as ZOS finally introduces whatever housing they have planned.I'm personally happy to wait for a proper finalised housing system.. I want my Telvanni tower one day!"Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the hero, there is no Event." ― Zurin Arctus, the Underking.Tragrim - How do I work this thing?
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whbaresb14_ESO wrote: »You forgot an option: I want no housing ever of any kind.
Housing kills the community in an MMO. Towns get empty and boring. Housing killed Asheron's Call which had a great community spirit until everyone started owning house and apartments. One day it was a party and the day after the housing patch it was suburbia, boring and empty. The smartest thing ZoS did was put only one bank per zone to concentrate people.
I much prefer ESO to WOW but it has no housing and I hope ZoS does the same. One of the WOW leads said "housing will be introduced to World of Warcraft some time right after "never"." I would like to hear the same from ZoS.
Player housing is an Elder Scrolls thing, the game is generic without being able to own houses.
In this game we should be able to own multiple houses, should be a huge game system in itself.
Lots of things make sense in a single player game that shouldn't be in an MMO. ZoS has been willing to change ESO to better suit the multiplayer experience so they should just drop housing. I doubt they want to destroy the game just to follow dubious canon.
Besides we are supposed to be heroes not Susie Homemaker.2 -
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✭✭Yes, I would really like to have short term housing as described above.whbaresb14_ESO wrote: »whbaresb14_ESO wrote: »You forgot an option: I want no housing ever of any kind.
Housing kills the community in an MMO. Towns get empty and boring. Housing killed Asheron's Call which had a great community spirit until everyone started owning house and apartments. One day it was a party and the day after the housing patch it was suburbia, boring and empty. The smartest thing ZoS did was put only one bank per zone to concentrate people.
I much prefer ESO to WOW but it has no housing and I hope ZoS does the same. One of the WOW leads said "housing will be introduced to World of Warcraft some time right after "never"." I would like to hear the same from ZoS.
Player housing is an Elder Scrolls thing, the game is generic without being able to own houses.
In this game we should be able to own multiple houses, should be a huge game system in itself.
Lots of things make sense in a single player game that shouldn't be in an MMO. ZoS has been willing to change ESO to better suit the multiplayer experience so they should just drop housing. I doubt they want to destroy the game just to follow dubious canon.
Besides we are supposed to be heroes not Susie Homemaker.
Because multiplayer games are all about standing at the bank with your character merging into 30 other guys.
I dunno. looks like ZOS has been WAY too busy listening to people like you...see what that has got them (allow me to spell it out for you: everyone leaving in droves). About time they started making the game what it should be, instead of this generic grindfest.
Edited by babylon on November 5, 2014 12:07PM4 -
whbaresb14_ESO wrote: »whbaresb14_ESO wrote: »You forgot an option: I want no housing ever of any kind.
Housing kills the community in an MMO. Towns get empty and boring. Housing killed Asheron's Call which had a great community spirit until everyone started owning house and apartments. One day it was a party and the day after the housing patch it was suburbia, boring and empty. The smartest thing ZoS did was put only one bank per zone to concentrate people.
I much prefer ESO to WOW but it has no housing and I hope ZoS does the same. One of the WOW leads said "housing will be introduced to World of Warcraft some time right after "never"." I would like to hear the same from ZoS.
Player housing is an Elder Scrolls thing, the game is generic without being able to own houses.
In this game we should be able to own multiple houses, should be a huge game system in itself.
Lots of things make sense in a single player game that shouldn't be in an MMO. ZoS has been willing to change ESO to better suit the multiplayer experience so they should just drop housing. I doubt they want to destroy the game just to follow dubious canon.
Besides we are supposed to be heroes not Susie Homemaker.
Because multiplayer games are all about standing at the bank with your character merging into 30 other guys.
I guess if you haven't seen it kill a game you can't understand. Hopefully ZoS has enough MMO vets to see what a disaster housing is.1 -
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✭✭Yes, I would really like to have short term housing as described above.whbaresb14_ESO wrote: »whbaresb14_ESO wrote: »whbaresb14_ESO wrote: »You forgot an option: I want no housing ever of any kind.
Housing kills the community in an MMO. Towns get empty and boring. Housing killed Asheron's Call which had a great community spirit until everyone started owning house and apartments. One day it was a party and the day after the housing patch it was suburbia, boring and empty. The smartest thing ZoS did was put only one bank per zone to concentrate people.
I much prefer ESO to WOW but it has no housing and I hope ZoS does the same. One of the WOW leads said "housing will be introduced to World of Warcraft some time right after "never"." I would like to hear the same from ZoS.
Player housing is an Elder Scrolls thing, the game is generic without being able to own houses.
In this game we should be able to own multiple houses, should be a huge game system in itself.
Lots of things make sense in a single player game that shouldn't be in an MMO. ZoS has been willing to change ESO to better suit the multiplayer experience so they should just drop housing. I doubt they want to destroy the game just to follow dubious canon.
Besides we are supposed to be heroes not Susie Homemaker.
Because multiplayer games are all about standing at the bank with your character merging into 30 other guys.
I guess if you haven't seen it kill a game you can't understand. Hopefully ZoS has enough MMO vets to see what a disaster housing is.
Housing does not kill games, grinding kills games.
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whbaresb14_ESO wrote: »whbaresb14_ESO wrote: »whbaresb14_ESO wrote: »You forgot an option: I want no housing ever of any kind.
Housing kills the community in an MMO. Towns get empty and boring. Housing killed Asheron's Call which had a great community spirit until everyone started owning house and apartments. One day it was a party and the day after the housing patch it was suburbia, boring and empty. The smartest thing ZoS did was put only one bank per zone to concentrate people.
I much prefer ESO to WOW but it has no housing and I hope ZoS does the same. One of the WOW leads said "housing will be introduced to World of Warcraft some time right after "never"." I would like to hear the same from ZoS.
Player housing is an Elder Scrolls thing, the game is generic without being able to own houses.
In this game we should be able to own multiple houses, should be a huge game system in itself.
Lots of things make sense in a single player game that shouldn't be in an MMO. ZoS has been willing to change ESO to better suit the multiplayer experience so they should just drop housing. I doubt they want to destroy the game just to follow dubious canon.
Besides we are supposed to be heroes not Susie Homemaker.
Because multiplayer games are all about standing at the bank with your character merging into 30 other guys.
I guess if you haven't seen it kill a game you can't understand. Hopefully ZoS has enough MMO vets to see what a disaster housing is.
Housing does not kill games, grinding kills games.
That is demonstrably wrong. The largest MMO is all grinding all the time. Ever done dailies?Edited by whbaresb14_ESO on November 5, 2014 12:16PM1