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The end of forward camps (seriously)

  • Weberda
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    The value of a healer in Kagrenac's Hope and equipped with a stack of soul gems just increased about tenfold.
    Fernwood, EP Haderus NA
    Lo Behold, AD Thornblade NA (formerly Haderus, inactive)
  • Pixysticks
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    GG Blizzard.
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  • Aoe_Barbecue
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    Pixysticks wrote: »
    GG Blizzard.

    Picksy pls.
  • Tintinabula
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    The boat is taking on water and they're drilling holes in the hull.This makes absolutely no sense. There's a percentage of people who have been teetering on whether or not to re sub. This is gonna push a lot out the door.
  • Pixysticks
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    Pixysticks wrote: »
    GG Blizzard.

    Picksy pls.

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    Alacrity

    Retired 05/04/15.
  • Lfehova
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    This is the most awesome news I've heard for pvp.

    While the oil thing takes away one way to beat zergballs, this removal of fwc should reduce the number of and size of these zergballs.

    All you mindless zerglings, better learn to play, quickly. (That includes zerglings in my faction as well)
    Characters: Hovaling/Lfehova/Hova-kun/Hovalicious
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    Characters after rename: BROVALING/Baka-kun/Brovalicious (Lfehova is now a retired DK and spends his days crafting)
  • Desdemonte
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    Sh!t just got serious B!tches.
  • Oughash
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    Like Ezareth said: Welcome to Elder Legolas Online, BatmanWerewolf!
  • smassareub17_ESO
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    Ok ...all of you who are so excited about these changes....think of this scenario.
    You are defending/taking a keep. Oh oh....you are one shotted by the new OP bow skills and lie dead. No forward camp. Do you lay there soaking up AP while your buddies need help and are dieing around you or do you port back to FAR-FAR away and miss out on the AP while you are rushing to get back?? Oh yes.....the "youngsters" can't put down or trade the FC now so all the "oldsters" have to do it. Huh?? sound like lots of fun doesn't it? Anyone that thinks the PVP will be improved by the lack of groups being able to put down FCs has had too much Nord Honey Mead. I see a VERY boring and sparsely populated PVP area.

    I wondered if the developers ever play this game as a subscriber does...now I know.
    Edited by smassareub17_ESO on November 4, 2014 3:33AM
  • smassareub17_ESO
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    This is a good change.

    Now death and resurrection will be more meaningful. People will think twice before charging into a battle they cannot win.

    Especially against the cheaters that are so prevalent these days.
  • Tintinabula
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    yes, easy resurrection was the only saving grace to their hack filled game..now that's gone..there's no saving grace.
    Edited by Tintinabula on November 4, 2014 3:51AM
  • AriBoh
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    Tbh half the times AD on Haderus EU failed to take a keep was cause someone walked out of a used up camp, mounted and ran right back into the oil filled breach to their well deseved death. Might not make much of a difference. Still pissed though.
    khele23eb17
    Agreed. Whoever came up with the design should be shot in the foot and only admitted to hospital when he manages to find 3 other people willing to maim themselves the same way in order to accompany him.

    ZOS_AmeliaR admin
    Ultimately, any method of entering an enemy keep without breaking down the door is considered an exploit. Thanks for checking!

    tinythinker
    "I used to be a healer once, but then I took a Wrobel to the knee"
  • TheBull
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    LonePirate wrote: »
    I am not in favor of this change at all. I do not log into Cyrodiil to spend all of my time playing a horse riding simulator.

    Forward camps kept the action maximized as much as possible from both an offensive and defensive perspective. Battles are gong to be considerably shorter now given that people will not be able to return to battle easily. You can also say good-bye to those hefty offensive and defensive AP ticks with this change.

    I hope all of you supply chain purists are ecstatic as this change is a horrible one for 90% of the players in the game.
    Camps got so bad I didn't even know what keep I was at half the time. Cyrodiil turned into wall wars.
  • driosketch
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    Rylana wrote: »
    So who here had the idea like i did to die on purpose and rez only at camps when they pop up now to burn em up as quickly as possible?
    I had the same idea, if only to truly see what campaigns will be like without them.

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  • michaelb14a_ESO2
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    The remaining FCs will be for something immensely important now.

    About to lose Arrius/Glademist/Faregyl? FC time.

    I don't know whether keeps will be harder or easier to take now. Empty keeps will be a breeze, defenders have to run if its empty most of the time. No more tenting every keep.

    Assaulting a defending keep will be a total pain in the ass, but if you can put a wipe on the defenders, then you're going to be good.

    Wall and Door HP needs a serious buff now. At least double, if not triple, their current HPs.

    We're going to find out within this week which faction can keep the best scouts in their keeps.

    Yea, welcome to real PVP
  • TagaParti
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    awesome move zenimax.. pvp will be much more thrilling now..
    Sheliza "The Unkillable"

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  • michaelb14a_ESO2
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    Can't say Zenimax doesn't listen. No warning just *poof* no more FCs. They did this because the community was clearly against them.

    I liked FCs and want them back, but since it was obvious I am in the minority, I am willing to see how this works out before whining on the forums. I just hope we see more people in Cyrodiil so the constant action promised by anti-FC advocates actually materializes instead of a $15/month horse riding simulator.

    First, anti-fc advocates never promised "constant action". You made that up. What we did say however, is that the QUALITY and meaningfulness of action would increase substantially.

    Second, you didn't get a "warning" for the exact reasons illustrated by responses in this thread by people going "I should of stockpiled them! Why didn't I get a warning?". Well, because people would of stockpiled them, that's why lol.
  • Tintinabula
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    sure wasn't thrilling tonight..waiting for a siege per hour..lol
  • Columba
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    Dark Age, Lolhammer, AION, UO, Guild Wars 2 didn't have Forward Camps. Eso pvprs got lazy. now real faction vs. faction warfare begins. Suck it up cupcakes.

    ps. the best fights are not keep fights.
  • TagaParti
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    this solved the deathport issue.. love it!
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  • michaelb14a_ESO2
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    Lfehova wrote: »
    All you mindless zerglings, better learn to play, quickly. (That includes zerglings in my faction as well)

    Hova,
    For once we actually agree. The zerg mentality on my own faction was so frustrating and so wide spread in part b/c of how death had no meaning. For those that say this will lead to more zergs, you're flat out wrong. Part of the reason zergs/zerg-balls exist is b/c they work on a "rinse and repeat" method of PVP. The downtime of a death is so small after a wipe/death that there is no individual fear of dying.

    How many time have you seen that little wrecking ball of players try and fail at taking the keep tower over and over? They just keep coming and coming, wipe after wipe until they succeed. This changes that.
    Edited by michaelb14a_ESO2 on November 4, 2014 5:24AM
  • Grim13
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    TagaParti wrote: »
    awesome move zenimax.. pvp will be much more thrilling now..

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  • KhajiitiLizard
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    Change forward camps but don't remove them entirely.
  • Grim13
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    Asked for an end to troll camping... Zeni removes fwd camps.

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  • Ackwalan
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    And now the real hunting starts. Don't fall behind from the safety of your group, the beast will get you.
  • Columba
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    impulse chimps are mad. too bad.
  • ghengis_dhan
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    I'm definitely going to have to avoid large fights now. My client doesn't render all the enemies when it lags. Sometimes, it doesn't render all the allied players either.

    I'd run into an area I thought was empty only to find myself dead from oil or a group of enemy players running at me. If I had seen them, I would have gone another direction.
    "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."

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  • Juraigr
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    Tbh half the times AD on Haderus EU failed to take a keep was cause someone walked out of a used up camp, mounted and ran right back into the oil filled breach to their well deseved death. Might not make much of a difference. Still pissed though.

    Lol who are u in-game Jurra here ;D
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