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Forward Camps - Limited Forward Camps...Please explain more.
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BRogueNZ✭✭✭✭✭Just get rid of soul gems as well, last man standing is emperor.
Edited by BRogueNZ on November 3, 2014 7:23PM5 -
Thechemicals✭✭✭✭✭I left a pvp guild for its excessive bloodporting and hardswitching and a day later they do this....Vr14 Templar since release- dual resto
Vr14 Dk bow/2h
Brayan Blackthunder
Goddick
Daggerfall Covenant3 -
CoolsHisHands✭✭✭Maybe people will learn to rez instead of running over corpses. People are lazy and selfish in cyrodiil. Maybe people will use strategy instead of mad rushing every thing. Lets see how it plays out.
It's not lazy or selfish not to res someone when they can easily res themselves at the nearest FC. If you want to blame anyone for being lazy and selfish, it was actually those who waited for someone to res them when they could have been back in the fight three minutes ago.
With the removal of FCs, I expect the attitude toward ressing people will change, don't you worry.1 -
briandivisionb16_ESO✭✭✭✭I just want to relay the echos throughout the PvP community.
Had so many talk about this.
Everyone is so psyched. Well done, and thankyou, ZoS!If your group is bigger than 6 members gain 75% damage reduction.
Write this on the back of your box and see how many sales you get!
You won't get any new PvP players until this archaic AoE crap is fixed.
I for one won't resub until:
1.) You fix lag.
2.) You remove AOE caps we voted against.
3.) 12 months have passed (this is how long we've waited for you to 'get with it')[/b]6 -
Naivefanboi✭✭✭✭
nope not here, but then again im not pvp community anymore either /shrugbriandivisionb16_ESO wrote: »I just want to relay the echos throughout the PvP community.
Had so many talk about this.
Everyone is so psyched. Well done, and thankyou, ZoS!
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GunemCleric✭✭✭Thank you ZOS for taking the suggestion that many of us made. It is a huge step in the right direction.Gunerm Cleric ~ Dragon Knight, Tank ~ vr14Cruleg Nimec ~ Dragon Knight, DPS ~ vr14Gunem Cleric ~ Templar, Heals ~ vr3Cleric Gunem ~ Sorcerer, TBD ~ vr1Daggerfall Covenant (only) ~ NAGuts n Glory & Guts n Glory EOC ~ Guildmaster ~ GnG ~ MMO Dark GuildDaggerfall Cosa Nostra ~ Founder ~ DCN ~ DC guild leaders only (no cross faction PvP guilds)8 -
Naivefanboi✭✭✭✭CoolsHisHands wrote: »Maybe people will learn to rez instead of running over corpses. People are lazy and selfish in cyrodiil. Maybe people will use strategy instead of mad rushing every thing. Lets see how it plays out.
It's not lazy or selfish not to res someone when they can easily res themselves at the nearest FC. If you want to blame anyone for being lazy and selfish, it was actually those who waited for someone to res them when they could have been back in the fight three minutes ago.
With the removal of FCs, I expect the attitude toward ressing people will change, don't you worry.
well in theory couldnt people still refuse a rez and just lay there dead leeching ap from combat ontop of their dead body? i noticed ap ticking when i was waiting to see if my group was gonna push back to my body or not lol0 -
reften✭✭✭✭✭I think this just killed solo pvp... Join the zerg or dont get ressed...
wrong, ganking is going to be a very viable tactic...small group PvP will be fun too. Just need 7 or 8 to take a resource, with other factions not being able to respond as quick as before.Reften
Bosmer (Wood Elf)
Moonlight Crew (RIP), Misfitz (RIP), Victorem Guild
VR16 NB, Stam build, Max all crafts.
Azuras & Trueflame. Mostly PvP, No alts.
Semi-retired till the lag is fixed.
Love the Packers, Bourbon, and ESO...one of those will eventually kill me.1 -
Mountain_Dewed✭✭✭Maybe people will learn to rez instead of running over corpses. People are lazy and selfish in cyrodiil. Maybe people will use strategy instead of mad rushing every thing. Lets see how it plays out.
So few rezzed back when fc's weren't used as much. It was so annoying to hear the "Oh, I'm out of soul gems, sorry". They actually thought we believed them too(they never owned one). When I got below 50 gems, I started looking for more and sometimes wouldn't go below 100...
Edited by Mountain_Dewed on November 3, 2014 9:37PM2 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ok if they are taking FC's out of the game, that is a pretty big blow to any offence are they doing anything to lower the defensive side?
Defense is hurt even more. Once the keep shows as under attack, they cannot respawn in it/transit to it, which means any sneak attack against a keep deep in enemy territory will automatically succeed since defenders will have no way to get there in time.0 -
whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭The price of Grand Soul gems are gonna go up, Way UP...LOLSigned, Kotaro Atani.PS5 NAVR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS5, and of course Master Thief. Currently 3600 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS5. Currently 810 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS5 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS5 except for maybe two-three Motifs. All Companions are Max level as are their Skills.Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade. Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home ! "I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.(All 18 characters are AD only! This one is a AD Loyalist)Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS5 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS5 is my dedicated Game Platform.Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past...""Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door...""A perfect society is always elsewhere..."- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs.1 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »The price of Grand Soul gems are gonna go up, Way UP...LOL
It's capped at 120g per
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AssaultLemming✭✭✭✭They now need to make pvp soul gems that only rez player characters and that you buy with ap. I have no desire to spend my gold to rez people in PvP.1
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✭✭whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »The price of Grand Soul gems are gonna go up, Way UP...LOL
It's capped at 120g per
(NPC merchant sells them at that price)
They may sell empty soul gems for that much, but not full. I can sell a stack of full Grand Soul Gems on the spot for a lot more than that. A full Grand Soul Gem costs 900 gold at the NPC merchant. That's 90k a stack.
If you are in the middle of a fight in Cyrodiil and are in desperate need of soul gems, which are you going to prefer? Empty soul gems that you have to go fill, or full ones that are ready to go?0 -
Orchish✭✭✭✭✭
✭whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »The price of Grand Soul gems are gonna go up, Way UP...LOL
It's capped at 120g per
(NPC merchant sells them at that price)
True, but many players are to lazy to fill the gems them selves and just want to buy full grand soul gems so will pay more.Edited by Orchish on November 3, 2014 9:52PM2 -
Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭yeah make it so you can buy soul gems with AP, put soul gems in every pvp mail, and make it so you can use the dead guys soul gem.Edited by Armitas on November 3, 2014 9:53PMRetired.
Nord mDK0 -
AssaultLemming✭✭✭✭I don't think this is going to make pvp more fun, unless you really enjoy running from place to place. I think a lot of people are going to get frustrated when they run for 10 minutes to get to a battle, die, and are faced with another 10 minute run only to die again. Time will tell but this doesn't seem like a recipe for more enjoyable PvP...0
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Ysne58✭✭✭✭✭yeah make it so you can buy soul gems with AP, put soul gems in every pvp mail, and make it so you can use the dead guys soul gem.
Yes make it so you can use the dead person's soul gems to rez them. Only use yours if the other person doesn't have.
Edited by Ysne58 on November 3, 2014 9:56PM0 -
Gillysan✭✭✭✭
There are two craftable sets that their bonus is in regards to reviving. A fair amount of gems drop from dungeons and mobs, not enough maybe to make it always cost nothing, but there are drops out there.AssaultLemming wrote: »They now need to make pvp soul gems that only rez player characters and that you buy with ap. I have no desire to spend my gold to rez people in PvP.
This will not end bloodporting, but limit it a little. Die > revive at wayshrine > transitus. I think it's a good move to remove FC's.Thechemicals wrote: »I left a pvp guild for its excessive bloodporting and hardswitching and a day later they do this....
Glad I'm ready for this, still feeding my fast horse Flash and Fatroll is always there for pve and resource gathering.
There is the Assault skill for some speed. I still haven't morphed mine but already on one of my wykyyd's outfitter skill loadouts.
I started this weekend with 300 soul gems, I still have 240. Did quite a bit of reviving. Also dinged v9 and my plan was to make an alternate purple armor set for reviving. Now I have to decide do I want the one that speeds it up or returns 2 soul gems. *ponder*Edited by Gillysan on November 3, 2014 10:07PMCrafting Services http://tinyurl.com/GillysansStore Organizational Guide http://tinyurl.com/GillysansEnchanterLeveling
ESO Dwemer Ruins List
Dwemer Forum Thread1 -
kelly.medleyb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
Whoever placed the Forward Camp into the Guild Store will be able to remove it.Mountain_Dewed wrote: »I've seen some in guild stores, what happens to these if not trade-able?
Thanks for making the ballsy calls, there is DEFINITELY hope for ESO's future Now please bite the bullet and REALLY (not superficially) nerf bat swarm and impulse and AD's extreme overpopulation(limit their pop to DC's pop +/- 10%), you know it needs to be done, just getter done plz.
Thanks again for your wonderful changes!3 -
hammer_fella✭✭✭Anyone who isn't VR is gonna be doing a lot of running in Cyro. No one under lvl 50 is likely to get a rez from me.Aldmeri Dominion (NA)
Ferawen - VR14 Bosmer Nightblade
Quvalwe - VR2 Altmer Sorcerer
Daggerfall Covenant
Belwurz gro-Yungash - Lvl 35 Orc Dragonknight
Ebonheart Pact
Dutseiwitsei - Lvl 27 Argonian Templar0 -
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✭Will have to wait to see how it plays out but one thing is for sure this will slow down game play in Cyrodiil drastically. I know something had to be done with fc's just not sure this was the best option. Time will tell I guess.
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Roechacca✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭They should add Permadeath to the game too . No rez ever . ESO Hardmode . Sieges should take as long as RL sieges . After taking a farm , NPC's should start eating their babies and ... the servers back up YAY !
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WebBull✭✭✭✭✭
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Well not sure I like this change but I will see how it plays out. They really need to make rezzing more viable without forward camps.
- cut the single player time of rezzing by 1/3.
- Add an new skill under Allliance War Line - Support that allows you to rez yourself once every half hour.
- Add an new skill under Allliance War Line - Support that allows you to rez 2-3 players within a small radius.
Without improvement to how players currently rez, this will make defense too easy. Also, seems like it will kill questing in enemy territory.
I can just imagine all of the WTB rez spam.0 -
demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I only think they completely removed them because they couldn't get it so you could only respawn at them if you die within the radius. That would have been a better change but whatevs
In any case the removal of forward camps will be a good and bad thing. The assault of keeps will all have a higher chance of failing. People think its all a good thing but will be back here complaining they are out of gold from buying soul gems and they don't get enough from reward mails. But now that it will be harder to oil kill anyone it may be better for the assaulters when it comes to running through a breach and taking flags.
Also zerg balls that just can't be killed will also achieve higher success at attacking or defending a keep. They didn't do anything to curb those yet. We'll see.
We'll see what happens this week.0
