Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »Yay....team blood port FTW
Is that how you call it in the US? We call it "suicide travel", for whatever reason.
Official name is: Malrog's Den.. because his 'Est'y friends are always hanging around ours
Its not exactly rocket science, people
One of them has an alt logged out behind the gate from the last time it was open.
When its quiet they log that alt in, drop a camp, and log it out. Then they port to it and go for scroll.
They arent even crossing the gate going in.
From AD side, we see the camp go up about 2 minutes before the scroll gets picked up. Most of us find this behavior abhorrent, but some cling to it like they are entitled to cheat the system, im frankly sick of it.
mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »Yay....team blood port FTW
Is that how you call it in the US? We call it "suicide travel", for whatever reason.
Blood for the Blood God.serenenightmare wrote: »serenenightmare wrote: »Well, apparently not because I'm pretty sure Gate of Ni-Mohk hasn't been opened for days by now. Yet yesterday and then again today same AD players mysteriously took it out of the temple and even out of the gate. I have no clue how they got there, but this s...stuff really shouldn't be happening.FluffiestOne wrote: »There is a barrier, called, " Barrier of (scroll name) ". It instantly kills anyone ENTERING the gates that isn't from the faction, but leaving the gate is straight.
Our gates haven't been opened for a good 24 hours, but hey, if a certain saucy player feels the need to take our scroll, only to fail 5 times, let him, if that's how they want to play.
Your gates were open last night sweetcheeks, primetime.
Hmm, must have missed it. I just remember holding Glade while AD had Rayles and Warden. Oh well, my mistake on that then.
Rune_Relic wrote: »Yay....team blood port FTW
Still baffles me how DC can't hold a blood port... >_> A RESOURCE THAT ISN'T BLUE?! MUST TAKEEEEEE.If there was no tower farming it's a bunch of noobs anyway. Best tower NA behind those gates.
No, they tried to run with it and got stomped all five times.
Severe disappointment twice in one response
Its not exactly rocket science, people
One of them has an alt logged out behind the gate from the last time it was open.
When its quiet they log that alt in, drop a camp, and log it out. Then they port to it and go for scroll.
They arent even crossing the gate going in.
From AD side, we see the camp go up about 2 minutes before the scroll gets picked up. Most of us find this behavior abhorrent, but some cling to it like they are entitled to cheat the system, im frankly sick of it.
You just described a legit tactic. This probably goes in the AD zone chat thread, but refusing to use tactics and instead adopt a swarm mentality of throwing bodies at something until it dies describes the majority of AD.
serenenightmare wrote: »
As long as my Lord and Savior Fixate, @fluffiestOne , is not disappointed in me, I shall go on.
I think that one was only for the starter areas.
Just killing everyone behind gate would also defeat the legitimate tactic of passing the open gate, hiding inside, waiting for defenders to disappear and get it from under their backsides.
That doesn't mean at all that I condone exploiting past closed gates to steal scrolls, which may still happen albeit much less frequent than a few weeks ago.
Well, apparently not because I'm pretty sure Gate of Ni-Mohk hasn't been opened for days by now. Yet yesterday and then again today same AD players mysteriously took it out of the temple and even out of the gate. I have no clue how they got there, but this s...stuff really shouldn't be happening.FluffiestOne wrote: »There is a barrier, called, " Barrier of (scroll name) ". It instantly kills anyone ENTERING the gates that isn't from the faction, but leaving the gate is straight.
Its not exactly rocket science, people
One of them has an alt logged out behind the gate from the last time it was open.
When its quiet they log that alt in, drop a camp, and log it out. Then they port to it and go for scroll.
They arent even crossing the gate going in.
From AD side, we see the camp go up about 2 minutes before the scroll gets picked up. Most of us find this behavior abhorrent, but some cling to it like they are entitled to cheat the system, im frankly sick of it.
You just described a legit tactic. This probably goes in the AD zone chat thread, but refusing to use tactics and instead adopt a swarm mentality of throwing bodies at something until it dies describes the majority of AD.
Its not exactly rocket science, people
One of them has an alt logged out behind the gate from the last time it was open.
When its quiet they log that alt in, drop a camp, and log it out. Then they port to it and go for scroll.
They arent even crossing the gate going in.
From AD side, we see the camp go up about 2 minutes before the scroll gets picked up. Most of us find this behavior abhorrent, but some cling to it like they are entitled to cheat the system, im frankly sick of it.
You just described a legit tactic. This probably goes in the AD zone chat thread, but refusing to use tactics and instead adopt a swarm mentality of throwing bodies at something until it dies describes the majority of AD.
No, it loses legitimacy the moment they log the alt out and the gate has closed.
Its not exactly rocket science, people
One of them has an alt logged out behind the gate from the last time it was open.
When its quiet they log that alt in, drop a camp, and log it out. Then they port to it and go for scroll.
They arent even crossing the gate going in.
From AD side, we see the camp go up about 2 minutes before the scroll gets picked up. Most of us find this behavior abhorrent, but some cling to it like they are entitled to cheat the system, im frankly sick of it.
You just described a legit tactic. This probably goes in the AD zone chat thread, but refusing to use tactics and instead adopt a swarm mentality of throwing bodies at something until it dies describes the majority of AD.
No, it loses legitimacy the moment they log the alt out and the gate has closed.
Why? The gate being closed has no meaning if you're already inside. Otherwise... it would be illegal for factions to participate in pvp outside of their gates while they are closed? I wonder how that works.
Its not exactly rocket science, people
One of them has an alt logged out behind the gate from the last time it was open.
When its quiet they log that alt in, drop a camp, and log it out. Then they port to it and go for scroll.
They arent even crossing the gate going in.
From AD side, we see the camp go up about 2 minutes before the scroll gets picked up. Most of us find this behavior abhorrent, but some cling to it like they are entitled to cheat the system, im frankly sick of it.
You just described a legit tactic. This probably goes in the AD zone chat thread, but refusing to use tactics and instead adopt a swarm mentality of throwing bodies at something until it dies describes the majority of AD.
No, it loses legitimacy the moment they log the alt out and the gate has closed.
Why? The gate being closed has no meaning if you're already inside. Otherwise... it would be illegal for factions to participate in pvp outside of their gates while they are closed? I wonder how that works.
Read my edit, it would be like logging an alt out inside a keep, the keep flips, and you are able to log the alt back in later and drop a camp inside the walls. (which is double checked, your alt would be moved to spawn for being too close to a keep, as well as no dropping friendly keeps inside enemy keep)
Same principle and should be enforced the same way. It baffles me why it isnt. The entire scroll temple area really needs to have its checks system updated to just consider its grounds as an enemy keep.
I wasn't aware that was possible, every time I log out for more than 5 mins anywhere in Cyro I get kicked back to Morrowind wayshrine. I'd assume same thing should happen to anyone who logs out behind enemy gate. If it doesn't, then it's either a bug which Zeni should've fixed long ago, or an obvious exploit. Though imo it's an exploit either way.Its not exactly rocket science, people
One of them has an alt logged out behind the gate from the last time it was open.
When its quiet they log that alt in, drop a camp, and log it out. Then they port to it and go for scroll.
They arent even crossing the gate going in.
From AD side, we see the camp go up about 2 minutes before the scroll gets picked up. Most of us find this behavior abhorrent, but some cling to it like they are entitled to cheat the system, im frankly sick of it.
Oh, please don't take this personal. I'm not even DC, I'm EP, and if I saw an EP doing that I'd ask same questions. I'm sure there're jerks in every alliance - people are people.WraithAzraiel wrote: »Well, apparently not because I'm pretty sure Gate of Ni-Mohk hasn't been opened for days by now. Yet yesterday and then again today same AD players mysteriously took it out of the temple and even out of the gate. I have no clue how they got there, but this s...stuff really shouldn't be happening.FluffiestOne wrote: »There is a barrier, called, " Barrier of (scroll name) ". It instantly kills anyone ENTERING the gates that isn't from the faction, but leaving the gate is straight.
It was opened yesterday when AD had Glademist and EP had Warden, but I think it was open for less than an hour.
But yea, it doesn't excuse poor sportsmanship. Don't feel bad though, we were retaliated against by someone placing yellow camps at the yellow starting areas to prevent us from succeeding in reclaiming the scroll of Mnem from Arrius.
This whole business of just being sheisty players needs to stop. Every alliance has guilty parties, and it's our job to point out and report the people doing it, on OUR Alliances.
It's the only way this is gonna stop.
LOL I see what you did there...your post gets an awesome for that:D And apparently I missed your gate opening too, odd.serenenightmare wrote: »Well, apparently not because I'm pretty sure Gate of Ni-Mohk hasn't been opened for days by now. Yet yesterday and then again today same AD players mysteriously took it out of the temple and even out of the gate. I have no clue how they got there, but this s...stuff really shouldn't be happening.FluffiestOne wrote: »There is a barrier, called, " Barrier of (scroll name) ". It instantly kills anyone ENTERING the gates that isn't from the faction, but leaving the gate is straight.
Our gates haven't been opened for a good 24 hours, but hey, if a certain saucy player feels the need to take our scroll, only to fail 5 times, let him, if that's how they want to play.
Oh, please don't take this personal. I'm not even DC, I'm EP, and if I saw an EP doing that I'd ask same questions. I'm sure there're jerks in every alliance - people are people.
I don't think it's like a keep.
Its not exactly rocket science, people
One of them has an alt logged out behind the gate from the last time it was open.
When its quiet they log that alt in, drop a camp, and log it out. Then they port to it and go for scroll.
They arent even crossing the gate going in.
From AD side, we see the camp go up about 2 minutes before the scroll gets picked up. Most of us find this behavior abhorrent, but some cling to it like they are entitled to cheat the system, im frankly sick of it.
You just described a legit tactic. This probably goes in the AD zone chat thread, but refusing to use tactics and instead adopt a swarm mentality of throwing bodies at something until it dies describes the majority of AD.
No, it loses legitimacy the moment they log the alt out and the gate has closed.
Why? The gate being closed has no meaning if you're already inside. Otherwise... it would be illegal for factions to participate in pvp outside of their gates while they are closed? I wonder how that works.
Its not exactly rocket science, people
One of them has an alt logged out behind the gate from the last time it was open.
When its quiet they log that alt in, drop a camp, and log it out. Then they port to it and go for scroll.
They arent even crossing the gate going in.
From AD side, we see the camp go up about 2 minutes before the scroll gets picked up. Most of us find this behavior abhorrent, but some cling to it like they are entitled to cheat the system, im frankly sick of it.
You just described a legit tactic. This probably goes in the AD zone chat thread, but refusing to use tactics and instead adopt a swarm mentality of throwing bodies at something until it dies describes the majority of AD.
No, it loses legitimacy the moment they log the alt out and the gate has closed.
Why? The gate being closed has no meaning if you're already inside. Otherwise... it would be illegal for factions to participate in pvp outside of their gates while they are closed? I wonder how that works.
the gate is there for a reason..... im going to let you figure out that reason, then you will see why this kind of crap should be considered exploiting.
Wait...they actually said that? That it's okay to log out behind closed gates, log in, drop a camp, log back out? That's absurd...it means you just need to get an alt behind both enemy gates and never again worry about taking key keeps or anything...it's one thing if you go in when gates are open and then/in a few hours drop a camp, you take a risk, there will be people searching for you, they'll have fair chance to find you and once they kill you, there'll be no second chance if gates are closed, it's completely ridiculous if you just use an alt to drop camp - you can do it eternally and no one could stop you unless they miraclously caught you in the 5 seconds of placing FC. How on Earth can this be NOT an exploit?It's not an exploit to log out behind the gate, then log on two days later and place a camp. But it does seem it like it should be. I can't jump over the gate to do this but I can leave an alternate account across the gate 24/7 to put camps up at any given time to continually circumvent the gate.
Seems untenable and yet they confirmed it is allowable. It's also okay to dragon leap over the first keep wall, but not gate walls or the inner keep wall. What is and is not allowed in the game is inscrutable. I have yet to find any sense in which I can navigate it.