Oh I showed up once. Once.

What I ended up at was a scroll surrounded by 20 pieces of siege inside a keep watching 20 or so AD that obviously were completely uncoordinated and clueless getting steamrolled.

Implying I was going to join them.

You guys know im pretty fearless, ill just charge right into you head on, I just did it the other day on that wall at Aleswell mine on Thorn

But in that situation I felt I had a chance of at least getting a kill or two for my trouble, and i did before i got swarmed down the first time. (since it was a surprise attack on a siege line that wasnt expected or guarded for whatever reason)

But a siegeball in an enclosed area? No.

Id add that I have in fact asked TKO to change servers some nights, because on raid nights we spend half our time playing, half our time crashed/requeued.

But most of them are homed on Thorn and dont want to lose the campaign by abandoning it.

I dont know why no one wants to leave thorn, its like we are all masochists or something.

I am homed on Haderus and I enjoy it. The only issue is No Mercy can't compete with the capping after we log off. So there isn't much else we can do besides take a keep or two and work on defending them.

Last night at one point it was 4 of us fighting 30+ at resource and taking siege by ad as well.

Another NM guildie and I even took warden back just the two of us and eventually moved on because AD felt a massive force was there or something.

So are you guys ever going to make a post that isn't filled to the brim with trolldom and isn't at all inflammatory?

Legitimately curious.

Huntler wrote: »

Nevermind, no point. OP won't see the amount of hypocrisy of this thread is ridiculous.


TLDR stop whining so instead OP whining that people won't play the way he wants. *eyeroll*

care to point me the whining in my post above?


I am in no way asking yellow to come back from thornblade to fight us on hadarus, nor asking the yellow PVEers to stop running trails and come fight us.

all I am asking for, is the people in 2 hours que to actually try to pvp while they wait to enter thornlagg. lol

they claim they want pvp, they run away when they see us. el oh el

Leovolao wrote: »

msawwan2ub17_ESO wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

Nevermind, no point. OP won't see the amount of hypocrisy of this thread is ridiculous.


TLDR stop whining so instead OP whining that people won't play the way he wants. *eyeroll*

care to point me the whining in my post above?


I am in no way asking yellow to come back from thornblade to fight us on hadarus, nor asking the yellow PVEers to stop running trails and come fight us.

all I am asking for, is the people in 2 hours que to actually try to pvp while they wait to enter thornlagg. lol

they claim they want pvp, they run away when they see us. el oh el

We tried taking a keep from you guys on haderus one time, but the rest of the AD population made it a terrible experience. No camps were replaced, no siege and when we finally got the wall down, everyone just stood there looking pretty and dying to siege. That isn't fun, at all.
Now I just spend my queue time picking flowers.

All im reading is excuses. Our small force is able to keep siege and camps up yet 100 players cant? Come on now, if your going to make excuses then be realistic and say your scared.

Leovolao wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Leovolao wrote: »

msawwan2ub17_ESO wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

Nevermind, no point. OP won't see the amount of hypocrisy of this thread is ridiculous.


TLDR stop whining so instead OP whining that people won't play the way he wants. *eyeroll*

care to point me the whining in my post above?


I am in no way asking yellow to come back from thornblade to fight us on hadarus, nor asking the yellow PVEers to stop running trails and come fight us.

all I am asking for, is the people in 2 hours que to actually try to pvp while they wait to enter thornlagg. lol

they claim they want pvp, they run away when they see us. el oh el

We tried taking a keep from you guys on haderus one time, but the rest of the AD population made it a terrible experience. No camps were replaced, no siege and when we finally got the wall down, everyone just stood there looking pretty and dying to siege. That isn't fun, at all.
Now I just spend my queue time picking flowers.

All im reading is excuses. Our small force is able to keep siege and camps up yet 100 players cant? Come on now, if your going to make excuses then be realistic and say your scared.

Okay then. I'm scare of No Mercy, i can't even sleep! =(

Damn strait, you know that's right! Fear the Zerg of No Mercy!

This one does not run because they are losing. After all, they are winning in so many ways one lost skirmish means little.

Nor does Telel run because they are afraid. Their fear is well controlled and sees little gibbering so long as they remember to take their potion.

No, they run because the 15 or so men in skirts are waving their waggle sticks around and they do not enjoy the way their fur ends up afterwards.

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Well, except for maybe late last night when DC and AD were fighting over at Ni-Mohk. I was the sole person at the Alma Ruma gate and couldn't do much against the AD scroll push. Shortly thereafter, someone mentioned DC was at one bar.

There were some of us EP there too, but unfortunately a number of our individuals acted like individuals and ran into the gate (only to get promptly killed) rather than holdign position, grouping up and waiting outside to jump the AD scroll carriers. Every side has its idiots, I guess. Congrats AD on that scroll run.

Looking forward to that new Zergbuster skill though. I think there will be a lot of skeleton bones blasting through the air.

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

I PvPed against you guys for most of the night. It was not good AP, only 20K/hour and pretty boring all the amusing chases aside. I had a lot more fun with you guys when I had 4 of my guildies with me actually fighting outside of Nikel a few days ago.

There are several issues with the local AD on Haderus. Most of them are out of AP or horde it so they don't replace camps, don't put up siege and don't repair walls so tearing down the walls of a keep at the cost of 10K AP in ballistas only to have you guys charge out and mop up the unorganized smattering of AD there just isn't very fun and is pretty frustrating.

The real issue is people recognize that you guys have no interest in the campaign, the scroll you hold will be reclaimed once you leave and while you're there the EP locals are soft and willing to give up their AP like it's their first time in Cyrodiil. A lot of the carebears don't even come to "the call" any more because they know what waits for them. I haven't seen a real AD zerg on Haderus in a long time.

Killing 12 people in Cyrodiil just isn't going to bring the competition you guys are hoping for, especially when Thornblade is such a close fight right now. I do my best to get more people from all sides to come but there is rarely a quality AD presence to content with anyone on Haderus.

they all seem to come crawling back when we go for recapping our home keeps..... LOTs of em:/

Well I don't know about everyone else but sounds like you missed a massive grindfest earlier today in the afternoon. Taking a page out of sun tzu's book we managed to ninja most of our home keeps before the Thornbabies came swarming in full force. The sad thing is after Arrius went down, Chalman was kind of silly it was like watching a bunch of kids standing outside the girl's restroom daring one another to go in and then when they pledge to go in at the same time they back out of it, so there'd be a clump start to move up then half of them pull back leaving the remainder to be turned into AP burgers.

But this is why I lament incoming nerfs to oil pots and silver shards. Superior tactics should always trump superior numbers, not vice versa. I hope Zeni realizes they're taking the wrong approach to resolving imbalances. Instead of outright nerfing abilities, they should create more counters. There's already existing abilities that have kind of meh morphs, so it's like it forces you to take the other one. So why not buff the crappy morph and make it a situational counter. Like a morph of soul strike that can zap DK's midair. Or caltrops that can delay casting.

If the native AD pop is strapped for points, just do scouting quests. I kid you not I worked my way into top 20 and got like 400k points back in Vol season 2. Make use of that transit network.

Another problem I think arises from the fact that whenever EP does take a keep, instead of the native population getting the chance to learn and adapt, it's the Thornbabies that come rushing to get their buffs back, so they end up getting the lion's share of the kills instead of the natives. They have no real vested interest in the server outside of the buffs. So instead of having situations where EP gets caught off guard and the natives roll us, it's the Thornbabies snapping up all the points with impulse batmonkery. There are some very skilled players on AD side that stand out, (Several of you have KOS orders >->) you just need more opportunity to shine.

And having 100+ people responding to a 24 some odd EP group isn't the solution. ;/

As someone who plays AD, I'm actually embarrassed we cannot coordinate ourselves to drive their merry band of twenty back to the High Rock gates.

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

I PvPed against you guys for most of the night. It was not good AP, only 20K/hour and pretty boring all the amusing chases aside. I had a lot more fun with you guys when I had 4 of my guildies with me actually fighting outside of Nikel a few days ago.

There are several issues with the local AD on Haderus. Most of them are out of AP or horde it so they don't replace camps, don't put up siege and don't repair walls so tearing down the walls of a keep at the cost of 10K AP in ballistas only to have you guys charge out and mop up the unorganized smattering of AD there just isn't very fun and is pretty frustrating.

The real issue is people recognize that you guys have no interest in the campaign, the scroll you hold will be reclaimed once you leave and while you're there the EP locals are soft and willing to give up their AP like it's their first time in Cyrodiil. A lot of the carebears don't even come to "the call" any more because they know what waits for them. I haven't seen a real AD zerg on Haderus in a long time.

Killing 12 people in Cyrodiil just isn't going to bring the competition you guys are hoping for, especially when Thornblade is such a close fight right now. I do my best to get more people from all sides to come but there is rarely a quality AD presence to content with anyone on Haderus.

they all seem to come crawling back when we go for recapping our home keeps..... LOTs of em:/

Well that's because you guys are a long way from being No Mercy (but getting better day by day). Until you guys actually adopt the anti- zerg tactic of impulse spam and batswarm spam while keeping immovable up and negating enemy effects and ultimates in a coordinated negate/ultimate rotation you'll never be as effective as them. The EP are coordinated and support each other but I rarely see any effective group tactics out of them. They are just a tightly knit group of 1 v 1ers with each person acting independently and that allows other 1 v 1ers to get kills and thus have some enjoyment in PvP.

Not a criticism, my build isn't designed to be optimal for group play either.

oh I understand

when I made my VR12(char I use for PvP) however long ago it was, I did NOT intend for her to be in these huge group/zerg play styles the majority of the playerbase seems to have adopted. Now 95% of my targets all all blobed up... and iv gone to far to do that much of a major re-vamp on my build:/

at some point, it will get better.