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I want to kill dragons

Darthryan
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I know the lore says otherwise but hey if my character can fight for all three factions and do quests that require time travel, then why can't we have a dragon to kill. A time travelling dragon.......

Also I would like to have some sort of random spawning rares that drop actual cool things that people would use. And large rares that take a raid or more to kill. Somethings like that would be pretty fun.

Or maybe a giant that attacks cyrodill where we have to ban together to take it down. But that would be a major lag event. Just thoughts here.
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    Some have suggested that Daedra should spill out from Dark Anchors if they remain open for to long. That would add some randomness to Tamriel.
  • Welka
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    Yeah and no. I'd love to see random events in Tamriel, but at this time I'd prefer more smaller random events rather than fewer big events.

    Not sure how I feel about dragons. Loved them in Skyrim but it would feel cheap to just reuse them here.
  • starkerealm
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    Fun trivia: There's about 4 Dragons in Skyrim that Alduin didn't wake up. They were up and moving the entire time...

    One of them is in Blackreach, one you hit during the main questline, and The Blades want you to snuff... you know who I'm talking about... there's the one in the Soul Cairn...

    ...and Mirmulnir.

    I won't blame you if that name isn't familiar, but Mirmulnir is the dragon you fight outside Whiterun at the very beginning of Skyrim. You can find intel on him saying the last time anyone saw him active was during the Second Era in The Reach.

    Also, given that players in ESO aren't dragonborn, it means they can't kill dragons in any permanent way, but they can "kill" them, but the dragon will be back.

    We could see Mirmulnir somewhere along the line as a raid boss, which would be pretty freakin' epic.

    EDIT: Here's the book that talks about him, btw.
    Edited by starkerealm on October 18, 2014 5:34PM
  • DDuke
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    Fun trivia: There's about 4 Dragons in Skyrim that Alduin didn't wake up. They were up and moving the entire time...

    One of them is in Blackreach, one you hit during the main questline, and The Blades want you to snuff... you know who I'm talking about... there's the one in the Soul Cairn...

    ...and Mirmulnir.

    I won't blame you if that name isn't familiar, but Mirmulnir is the dragon you fight outside Whiterun at the very beginning of Skyrim. You can find intel on him saying the last time anyone saw him active was during the Second Era in The Reach.

    Also, given that players in ESO aren't dragonborn, it means they can't kill dragons in any permanent way, but they can "kill" them, but the dragon will be back.

    We could see Mirmulnir somewhere along the line as a raid boss, which would be pretty freakin' epic.

    EDIT: Here's the book that talks about him, btw.

    Don't forget the dragon from Redguard ;)

    That said, to answer OP: having random event dragons in this game would feel really cheap & not very lore friendly... but maybe as raid bosses at some point?
    Edited by DDuke on October 18, 2014 5:45PM
  • WraithAzraiel
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    Add giant Daedra that require a few groups to down. Would be neat. Kinda a rip off from GW2 and other games with giant boss encounters but if it ain't broke why fix it? Why try to reinvent the wheel?
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  • thelordoffelines
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    I want to kill dragon-knights..
    and I do in cyrodiil very frequently :)
  • TRIP233
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    Fun trivia: There's about 4 Dragons in Skyrim that Alduin didn't wake up. They were up and moving the entire time...

    One of them is in Blackreach, one you hit during the main questline, and The Blades want you to snuff... you know who I'm talking about... there's the one in the Soul Cairn...

    ...and Mirmulnir.

    I won't blame you if that name isn't familiar, but Mirmulnir is the dragon you fight outside Whiterun at the very beginning of Skyrim. You can find intel on him saying the last time anyone saw him active was during the Second Era in The Reach.

    Also, given that players in ESO aren't dragonborn, it means they can't kill dragons in any permanent way, but they can "kill" them, but the dragon will be back.

    We could see Mirmulnir somewhere along the line as a raid boss, which would be pretty freakin' epic.

    EDIT: Here's the book that talks about him, btw.

    Hmm.. at first I though I would have to educate the Original Poster for the Dragon Lore.. But you sir have educated me. Can we get the Lore Master in this conversation to see his opinions and insights to see if this is at all possible?
  • nerevarine1138
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    If this happens anywhere outside of a trial or dungeon, I will be sorely disappointed in the writers, because it would break all kinds of lore to have dragons roaming the landscape.

    Also, Skyrim exists. Why do you want them to duplicate the experience of a game that's already available?
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  • Tapio75
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    Dragons are busy sleeping in their tombs, They will awake in few hundred years so just wait a whi8le ^^

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  • starkerealm
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    TRIP233 wrote: »
    Hmm.. at first I though I would have to educate the Original Poster for the Dragon Lore.. But you sir have educated me. Can we get the Lore Master in this conversation to see his opinions and insights to see if this is at all possible?

    Basically, Elder Scrolls dragons are kind of like sentient atronochs... they're not quite living, and incredibly hard to kill. I forget the full background, but unless you actually obliterate their soul, such as with a dragonborn, you can't kill them in any permanent way. They die, but they'll just reanimate their body later.

    I forget how they got shoved into the long period of inactivity between the Dragon Wars and the 4th Era, but once Alduin returned he set off waking them up. I think they need another dragon to revive them, but that's one of the things I'm a little shaky on.
  • Darthryan
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    Sigh.... I know the lore says no dragons but I don't care. I want something more grand. And aren't those dragons u fight at the last boss at 50? If not just make whatever those were hella big and have them attack cities killing all npcs till we vr14s show up and mop them. Something random. Not the same old stuff, same quests different factions, same pvp. Just random. Maybe even a few times a year factions can seige regular cities on oppsoing factions starting areas. That would be cool.
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    DDuke wrote: »
    Fun trivia: There's about 4 Dragons in Skyrim that Alduin didn't wake up. They were up and moving the entire time...

    One of them is in Blackreach, one you hit during the main questline, and The Blades want you to snuff... you know who I'm talking about... there's the one in the Soul Cairn...

    ...and Mirmulnir.

    I won't blame you if that name isn't familiar, but Mirmulnir is the dragon you fight outside Whiterun at the very beginning of Skyrim. You can find intel on him saying the last time anyone saw him active was during the Second Era in The Reach.

    Also, given that players in ESO aren't dragonborn, it means they can't kill dragons in any permanent way, but they can "kill" them, but the dragon will be back.

    We could see Mirmulnir somewhere along the line as a raid boss, which would be pretty freakin' epic.

    EDIT: Here's the book that talks about him, btw.

    Don't forget the dragon from Redguard ;)

    That said, to answer OP: having random event dragons in this game would feel really cheap & not very lore friendly... but maybe as raid bosses at some point?
    Well there are the dragonlings.
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  • starkerealm
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    Darthryan wrote: »
    Sigh.... I know the lore says no dragons but I don't care.

    The lore doesn't say "no dragons", it just says they're very rare (less than 10 living dragons in the world) and probably smart enough not to randomly expose themselves to any band of wandering adventurers, unless what they stand to gain is suitably epic.
    Edited by starkerealm on October 19, 2014 8:52AM
  • Koensol
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    ROFL dragons. I remember the prelauch whine for dragons... E3 2013, one of the big opportunities to ask the devs a question. One of the first questions being asked: "Will there be dragons?" This was repeated a huge amount of times, to the point where it became a forum joke.
  • BugCollector
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    I want to see a dragon vs a daedric titan. always wondered what the outcome would be, but my money is on the dragon.
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  • MornaBaine
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    So it's not out of the question that there's a sleeping dragon in a cave somewhere. Yeah, raid boss, totally. Plus part of your objective would be to seal the cave magically so that after you "kill" it, it can't get out and come looking for retribution when it regenerates. I haven't had coffee yet so my brain may not be fully functional...but it seems to me as if this does open the way to having ONE potential dragon encounter in the game.

    I am also with some other posters here...I'd REALLY like some random world events where just about everyone in the area ends up dropping what they are doing and running to combat it. No grouping necessary but once you reach the area of the event you can heal anyone in the area and essentially it is LIKE you are suddenly in a group with EVERYONE in the area so that all spells that affect groups do indeed work for everyone in the affected area.

    SMALL random events would also be extremely welcome.
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  • Rune_Relic
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    NPC Bandit raids on towns would be good.
    Edited by Rune_Relic on October 19, 2014 12:32PM
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  • k9mouse
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    No dragons please -- be there, done that in Skyrim. I want to kill dragons, I just play Skyrim again. So NO dragons in ESO.
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    k9mouse wrote: »
    No dragons please -- be there, done that in Skyrim. I want to kill dragons, I just play Skyrim again. So NO dragons in ESO.

    I don't know, it could be a nice change of pace for there to be one as the final boss in a singe post game dungeon. Just to have something different in this one cave, or mountaintop aerie. Though, more than that? No, that sounds like a bad idea.

    That said, with the way ranged combat works in ESO, I'm not really convinced a dragon fight would work. So there it that to vote in your favor.
  • AssaultLemming
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    I would like to see large world bosses that spawn semi randomly, something like every time you kill a wasp in craglorn there is a chance a giant wasp will spawn and roam the landscape until killed. They would have to raise the loot and xp cap higher than 12 players though.
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    Darthryan wrote: »
    I know the lore says otherwise but hey if my character can fight for all three factions and do quests that require time travel, then why can't we have a dragon to kill. A time travelling dragon.......

    Also I would like to have some sort of random spawning rares that drop actual cool things that people would use. And large rares that take a raid or more to kill. Somethings like that would be pretty fun.

    Or maybe a giant that attacks cyrodill where we have to ban together to take it down. But that would be a major lag event. Just thoughts here.

    I actually sat down with Lawrence the Loremaster during the Guild Summit and discussed this exact question with him: Could there be Dragons in ESO?

    Short answer: Yes

    In the Elder Scrolls, all information the player ever receives comes from a potentially biased, potentially inaccurate source. There is no universal truth in the elder scrolls world. Furthermore, his interpretation of the existing lore referencing the ESO Era was that dragons might exist now, but are hidden.

    Essentially, there is the potential for ZOS to introduce dragons into the game, without breaking the lore or causing problems for other Bethesda TES Games.
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  • Sebastian102
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    I would like to meet around a hundred dragons on Nirn and kill a few of them.
    The Akaviri where known dragon hunters and they came from their own continent, thus stating that there most likely are dragons on the other continents.
    There is also a posebility that some dragons after the dragon wars also sought refuge on the other continents of Nirn, someting that easely could hawe escaped historical records. It may be posible if dragons fleed the continent of Tamriel that they could hawe become more humble and atempted to live a more peasefull coexistense whit the inhabitants of the other continents, if so there might even be comunitys where dragons live togheter whit man,mer, beast like inhabitants (or they could hawe hid or systematikly exterminated the inhabitants to awoid another disaster or got themselfe killed). Lets not also forget that dragons are not just great beast to be killed, they are some of the most inteligent and knowledgable creatures on the planet of Nirn. To kill them may not be the ting in ones fawor, better would be if one could subdue them and in exange for their lives and that their location remains a secret they would giwe the player knowlage/abilitys/motifs/other tings like in the book "Twin Secrets" where an enchanter manages to subdue a dragon and in exange for its life it teaches him howe to double enchant an objekt. Also there are a few dragons in the oblivion plane of Apocryptika.
    So we may be able to meet plenty of dragons but only a few on the continent of Tamriel.
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    The lore actually allows it. There are many dragons who where still alive at the time where TESO takes place. They where just mostly in hiding and no lore exists about their whereabouts but there definitively where some alive.
    Edited by TehMagnus on October 22, 2014 11:28AM
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    Tapio75 wrote: »
    Dragons are busy sleeping in their tombs, They will awake in few hundred years so just wait a whi8le ^^
    Exactly. Dragons have no reason to be concerned regarding current events in Tamriel. This Era will have come and gone and they will remain.
    Darthryan wrote: »
    Sigh.... I know the lore says no dragons but I don't care. I want something more grand. And aren't those dragons u fight at the last boss at 50?
    @Darthran , what would you propose would be more grand than a dragon?

    And No, the oversized winged watchdogs were merely Titans. Heck, I don't even think the little fellas were full grown yet - maybe the one the council fought just seemed bigger at the time?
    Darthryan wrote: »
    Sigh.... I know the lore says no dragons but I don't care.

    The lore doesn't say "no dragons", it just says they're very rare (less than 10 living dragons in the world) and probably smart enough not to randomly expose themselves to any band of wandering adventurers, unless what they stand to gain is suitably epic.

    @starkrealm , you make it sound as if they cower in fear. I suspect it's more that they cannot be bothered by the musings of man and mer. It's the same level of interest you show an earthworm in your front yard while you nap in the sun.
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  • Gedalya
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    Darthryan wrote: »
    then why can't we have a dragon to kill. A time travelling dragon.......

    Lol; oh wait, that was part of the Skyrim storyline.
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  • BBSooner
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    Dragons flying over the landscape and an every day appearance - out of the bounds of lore.

    Random unnamed secluded dragon slumbering or hiding in a "path least travelled" part of Tamriel - within the bounds of lore.

    That being said, I'm pretty sure ZOS has already stated "no dragons".
  • MercutioElessar
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    As mentioned in another thread: I'd love to have dragons as open world bosses for mass boss raiding (we're talking a couple of dozen to some hundred players).

    And then everybody dies:
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    You got a point about time travelling. They just need to introduce a "flashback" quest to a time period that had a dragon. That'd be really cool. If you really want to go fight dragons though, for now just go play Skyrim. Its a better game anyways.
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    As mentioned in another thread: I'd love to have dragons as open world bosses for mass boss raiding (we're talking a couple of dozen to some hundred players).

    And then everybody dies:
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    Wrong type of Dragon, ine Elder Scrolls Dragons look like the Wyverns of other fantasy worlds.
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  • Athas24
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    I don't want to see dragons all over like Skyrim... Maybe a raid boss sure.. But, I really would love to see more varieties of daedra running around or dremora and such. I have only seen spider daedra, the fatboys, the watchers, the giant lizards, banekin, litches, vampires and some other undead. The last three aren't really specific to daedric things as they plague the regular world plenty on their own. Oh, and I suppose I've seen some warrior dremora and such from time to time. I want tons of new ones to fight. :)
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