We need a 1handed weapon tree and an unarmed tree.

Origin · October 2014

hm... Haven't seen any shaolin monk in Tamriel.

Zorrashi · October 2014

Origin wrote: »

hm... Haven't seen any shaolin monk in Tamriel.

Have you not been the Khenarthi's roost? There is a temple there....and they are obviously training in some form of hand-to-hand combat. No seriously, there is an instructor and everything.

starkerealm · October 2014

Faulgor wrote: »

I liked unarmed in Morrowind. Punch someone until their stamina runs out, only then you will start dealing damage with your hits.

I'd like to see One-Handed be viable, but I don't know how to accomplish this. Frankly, I'd rather see spears.

Spears, man.
Spears.

The worst part is spears are actually in the game, we just don't have access to them as players. (No, Templar abilities don't count.)

Spears, H2H, and 2hand.

With 1 hand, how to make it viable would be pretty simple, apply damage and defense buffs that fall in between Sword and Board and 2 Hander. You do more damage with one weapon equipped than you would with a board, but less than a 2hander. You have more defense than a 2 hander, but less than a true sword and board.

Tapio75 · October 2014

I think that most if not all sword&board abilities should work with 1 weapon only. I mean there IS the reduction of armor allready as a punishment for not using shield and at keast first 2 abilities animations WILL work just fine without shield.

Ability possibilities. Acrobatic and flashy attacks, snares with kick to the foot, evasiva rolls, stabs and all kind of great moves. Maybe also some morphs that include magick effect for those who play spellswrods, consecutive attack combos similar to flurry.. Many possibilities. Just take all the combo moves from Skyrim, all of those could easily be converted to fit 1 hander.

Or the easiest, just let some abilities of sword and board work without shield and have some dual wield attacks like flurry work with fists only. Flurry for example would look rather good allready if only the weapons are out of picture, surely there will be damage reduction but why would that be bad? These would naturally be just qucik "emergency" possibilities to give more options and true skill tress would still be needed.

All in all there are many skill lines missing from the game that should be there.

SirNigelThornberry · October 2014

xaraan wrote: »

SirNigelThornberry wrote: »

xaraan wrote: »

Unarmed - no thanks.

I've always found the idea of punching/kicking people in armor rediculous. Too many people watching kung fu movies and thinking you can do anything with enough skill.

Now, if we are talking about some sort of boxing game at taverns or something, that would be cool.

We're talking about a game with vampires and werewolves and fireballs and meteors "on demand". You seriously have a problem with channeling magika/chii w/e for barefist? You don't have a leg to stand on. Wuxia movies = eastern fantasy/superhero movies. It's literally the same thing expressed differently.

I disagree. People always use the 'magic' excuse to just break any sort of realistic bond with the fantasy world, which is exactly what holds the fantasy together. If you can enchant fists with fire damage, it is still more useful to use weapons with fire damage on them (reach, durability, probably power) and/or less powerful against armor than weapons would be. Just b/c magic is in the world doesn't mean things can get stupid.

In what way is channeling kinetics through your fists more "stupid", to use your word, than calling meteors out of the *** sky? As I said, you don't have a leg to stand on. You simply have PRECONCEPTIONS of how magic SHOULD work (in your mind) which happen to also be very western. Wuxia (Martial Hero) fantasy uses many of the same principles. You want believability? lol people block swords with swords in this game...you realize that's a great way to turn a sword into a butter knife in 5 minutes? Barefist Monks (which exist in most fantasy settings btw in everything from D&D to older elder scrolls games) generally use dodge tanking+high alpha 'exploitation' attacks. Still useful, just a DIFFERENT playstyle :O (shocking such a thing can exist yes?).

As I said before, you really don't have a leg to stand on.

Aeratus · October 2014

In addition to this, I'd like a shield + no weapon tree.

Blooddancer · October 2014

Unarmed is never really unarmed, it ends up being fancy gloves. Then people will whinge about "unarmed" not being as good as 2HS or S&B or DW.

For 1HS, why? you are losing an equipment slot. At best let 1HS use S&B skill line.

cazlonb16_ESO · October 2014

Zorrashi wrote: »

Origin wrote: »

hm... Haven't seen any shaolin monk in Tamriel.

Have you not been the Khenarthi's roost? There is a temple there....and they are obviously training in some form of hand-to-hand combat. No seriously, there is an instructor and everything.

Yup, it's the POI "Temple of the Two-Moons Dance". If you talk to the instructor guy, he'll even feed you some spiritual mumbo jumbo.

WraithAzraiel · October 2014

Unarmed would be awesome but I wonder how they'd implement it.

starkerealm · October 2014

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

Unarmed would be awesome but I wonder how they'd implement it.

The skill line would advance when you either had no weapon equipped, or had some kind of punch weapon, and with equipped unarmed powers on the skill bar? Kinda like every other weapon skill in the game?

Or if you mean, what would be in there, I suspect passives that would increase your attack speed and damage while unarmed (or using unarmed weapons like katars, spiked knuckles, or clawed gauntlets.) Possibly a parry ability that allows you to take an automatic shot at someone if you block their incoming strike while active.

Gorthax · October 2014

if you watch the quake con video again, and look carefully you will see this!

http://imgur.com/fy5ok5S

I snipped this picture when I noticed that they gave the mobs in the new solo zone HAND TO HAND weapons >_< WE NEED THESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cody · October 2014

once the bigger issues of this game are fixed, then they could add this in.

i would try it if they put it in.

Khivas_Carrick · October 2014

Skill Lines that can and should be implemented at a later date:

One Hand And Spell

Martial Hands (Unarmed)

Lancing (Spears)

Skill Lines that actually are coming to ESO in light of recent events in a brilliant, awesome way thanks to Spell Crafting:

Destruction

Restoration

Conjuration

I think you see where I'm going with this. But seriously, those first 3 have a place in TES Lore and Gameplay, so I can see it becoming a thing that gets discovered or resurfaced via player intervention, much like how Spellcrafting is set to work.