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** ZoS, what is being done about PvP Campaign overloading/vacancy, insane queue wait times? **

  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Lfehova wrote: »
    eliisra wrote: »
    Akula wrote: »
    Thornblade ridiculous queue times and ludicrous lag....the rest of the campaigns? No lag and no queues..... Hey lets get on the forum and whine about lag and queue times....

    Logic...where'd it go?

    I fled to Azura Star to avoid the lag and the crashing. Guess what, it made no difference what so ever. Had the same frozen screens, weapons not swapping and multiple crashes.

    It seems my bad performance cant be avoided, regardless of campaign or population. It's pretty frustrating. But you're totally right about the queue times of course. That's not even a problem, it's players actively deciding to queue for a campaign with locked bars.

    Just reroll. If you're a true pvp fan. Convince your friends to reroll with you for the health of pvp in this game.

    The longest queue I had yesterday was 11. I tried to run to a crafting station, but the queue popped before I was halfway there.

    Quoted for truthiness.

    For the health of this game, people in that 130+ AD queue need to not just stop queuing for Thornblade, but need to spend that time they would spend in queue rerolling into EP/DC. This is the stopgap (and poor, I know) until ZOS gives them the transfer tools that multiple other games already offer.
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  • Asgari
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    @ZOS,

    The queue for the ONE (repeat: ONE AND ONLY USED) PvP Campaign (US, Thornblade) is over 100 people EVERY NIGHT. This amounts to SEVERAL HOURS of wait time.

    If anything needs a hotfix for ESO, its this.

    What are you doing about this critical failure of the game?

    Ok, stop me if you've heard this one before --

    Until you reroll into another faction (EP or DC), then you can suffer.

    Stop your ridiculous faction stacking and maybe you'll get to pvp in a timely fashion!

    It's good for you, and it's good for the health of the game!

    If they all want to suffer let them suffer. I just wish a forum badmin would just close these threads as they pop up and paste one of their generic messages about how we have other servers available for you to use besides thornblade.

    It amazes me how terabad AD has become with complaining. Have they not yet wondered why no other faction has this issue? Even with these wait times they still got rofl stomped yesterday.
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    @ZOS,

    The queue for the ONE (repeat: ONE AND ONLY USED) PvP Campaign (US, Thornblade) is over 100 people EVERY NIGHT. This amounts to SEVERAL HOURS of wait time.

    If anything needs a hotfix for ESO, its this.

    What are you doing about this critical failure of the game?

    Ok, stop me if you've heard this one before --

    Until you reroll into another faction (EP or DC), then you can suffer.

    Stop your ridiculous faction stacking and maybe you'll get to pvp in a timely fashion!

    It's good for you, and it's good for the health of the game!

    If they all want to suffer let them suffer. I just wish a forum badmin would just close these threads as they pop up and paste one of their generic messages about how we have other servers available for you to use besides thornblade.

    It amazes me how terabad AD has become with complaining. Have they not yet wondered why no other faction has this issue? Even with these wait times they still got rofl stomped yesterday.

    It doesn't matter how many times we point it out, typically.

    Instead we get prevarications, excuses, and even accusations.

    The continued stacking of AD makes the game worse for everyone. That AD has, easily, the population of EP and DC combined is one of the things that prevents this game's PVP from being healthy.

    Auriel's Bow 1.0 is an excellent example of what happens when what population imbalance is maintained for too long. That campaign died after DC/EP realized that it wasn't possible to win, and it is a microcosm of the overall PVP population imbalance. There's no reason to play if you can't win due to situations outside your control.

    Once the populations are balanced -- if they ever are -- then we're at least all equal partners in the lag, the crashes, the bugs, etc. We're all on the same footing.
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  • Asgari
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    It is rough when mass crashes occur and a huge influx of AD log in but we drop with no influx to support those frantically trying to get back in.

    Hopefully once buff servers are gone this can be fixed and AD guilds will start to switch.
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  • Lfehova
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    @ZOS,

    The queue for the ONE (repeat: ONE AND ONLY USED) PvP Campaign (US, Thornblade) is over 100 people EVERY NIGHT. This amounts to SEVERAL HOURS of wait time.

    If anything needs a hotfix for ESO, its this.

    What are you doing about this critical failure of the game?

    Ok, stop me if you've heard this one before --

    Until you reroll into another faction (EP or DC), then you can suffer.

    Stop your ridiculous faction stacking and maybe you'll get to pvp in a timely fashion!

    It's good for you, and it's good for the health of the game!

    If they all want to suffer let them suffer. I just wish a forum badmin would just close these threads as they pop up and paste one of their generic messages about how we have other servers available for you to use besides thornblade.

    It amazes me how terabad AD has become with complaining. Have they not yet wondered why no other faction has this issue? Even with these wait times they still got rofl stomped yesterday.

    It doesn't matter how many times we point it out, typically.

    Instead we get prevarications, excuses, and even accusations.

    The continued stacking of AD makes the game worse for everyone. That AD has, easily, the population of EP and DC combined is one of the things that prevents this game's PVP from being healthy.

    Auriel's Bow 1.0 is an excellent example of what happens when what population imbalance is maintained for too long. That campaign died after DC/EP realized that it wasn't possible to win, and it is a microcosm of the overall PVP population imbalance. There's no reason to play if you can't win due to situations outside your control.

    Once the populations are balanced -- if they ever are -- then we're at least all equal partners in the lag, the crashes, the bugs, etc. We're all on the same footing.

    My problem isn't with the overpopulation we have to fight against. Like 2bar vs poplock.

    My problem is, even after fighting all day until the drudges of the early morning making good progress. AD will remain poplocked. Throughout the night, recapping everything vs two one bar populations (those one bars being legit maybe 10 people).

    I don't blame people for wanting to play. But there needs to be some balance throughout the day, otherwise it makes the alliance war effort pretty futile.
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Lfehova wrote: »
    @ZOS,

    The queue for the ONE (repeat: ONE AND ONLY USED) PvP Campaign (US, Thornblade) is over 100 people EVERY NIGHT. This amounts to SEVERAL HOURS of wait time.

    If anything needs a hotfix for ESO, its this.

    What are you doing about this critical failure of the game?

    Ok, stop me if you've heard this one before --

    Until you reroll into another faction (EP or DC), then you can suffer.

    Stop your ridiculous faction stacking and maybe you'll get to pvp in a timely fashion!

    It's good for you, and it's good for the health of the game!

    If they all want to suffer let them suffer. I just wish a forum badmin would just close these threads as they pop up and paste one of their generic messages about how we have other servers available for you to use besides thornblade.

    It amazes me how terabad AD has become with complaining. Have they not yet wondered why no other faction has this issue? Even with these wait times they still got rofl stomped yesterday.

    It doesn't matter how many times we point it out, typically.

    Instead we get prevarications, excuses, and even accusations.

    The continued stacking of AD makes the game worse for everyone. That AD has, easily, the population of EP and DC combined is one of the things that prevents this game's PVP from being healthy.

    Auriel's Bow 1.0 is an excellent example of what happens when what population imbalance is maintained for too long. That campaign died after DC/EP realized that it wasn't possible to win, and it is a microcosm of the overall PVP population imbalance. There's no reason to play if you can't win due to situations outside your control.

    Once the populations are balanced -- if they ever are -- then we're at least all equal partners in the lag, the crashes, the bugs, etc. We're all on the same footing.

    My problem isn't with the overpopulation we have to fight against. Like 2bar vs poplock.

    My problem is, even after fighting all day until the drudges of the early morning making good progress. AD will remain poplocked. Throughout the night, recapping everything vs two one bar populations (those one bars being legit maybe 10 people).

    I don't blame people for wanting to play. But there needs to be some balance throughout the day, otherwise it makes the alliance war effort pretty futile.

    To be frank, I think the scoreboard is one of the worst parts of the Alliance War.

    It makes it much easier to have short term objectives without it. Guild Wars 2 had the same issues and it feels like ZOS made a lot of the same mistakes with the very existance of that scoreboard.

    DAoC's realm war worked just fine w/o a scoreboard and the keeps, the buffs in campaign, the RPs themselves, and competition kept people fighting.

    I would love if they removed the scoreboards and then made the leaderboards reset based on the old campaign durations. Each time the leaderboards reset you get rewards based on your personal ranking and nothing else.

    The scoreboard exacerbates the population issues because winning/losing is now based on the overall population and their ability to hold objectives through offhours.

    At best, "Prime Time" is 6-8 hours of the day. That least 16-18 off hours each day, where the scoreboard points per hour are equal to the ones gained during prime time, but there are double the scoring opportunities.

    AD only has to have a mild edge, say 200 pts vs 100 and 100, each hour during off hours and it can get absolutely pounded during prime time (as we're seeing now) and it's still maintaining the lead.

    This type of no win situation leads people to first give up playing to objectives (not a good thing) and then eventually quit.

    Remember that we used to have two full campaigns each night? Yeah. Where'd that other one go?

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  • Asgari
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    What kills me is most of us who are regulars and are somewhat known around the different factions know that only a handful will switch from AD.

    There is no way the amount needed will switch. Many have invested too much time and money into toons they just don't want to leave.

    In my mind I always thought ZOS should have the option to switch factions every 6 months. It would allow players a way to even out campaigns and factions in need of players.

    The whole lore of this character should be in that faction is out the window with the explorers addition, so I see no reason why every 6 months this couldn't happen.

    Would keep the game fresh and even for longer periods of time.
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  • AlnilamE
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    I've decided to leave Thornblade, as it's impossible to play on that server, and went to Azura's Star, but there's no one there. Not one reply in zone chat. I don't mind switching to a different server, nor do I mind a less active server, but I don't want to be the only person there. I just don't know where else to go. Is Chillrend better?

    Come to Chillrend! As soon as you poke anything blue, DC magically shows up!
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  • Asgari
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    I've decided to leave Thornblade, as it's impossible to play on that server, and went to Azura's Star, but there's no one there. Not one reply in zone chat. I don't mind switching to a different server, nor do I mind a less active server, but I don't want to be the only person there. I just don't know where else to go. Is Chillrend better?

    Come to Chillrend! As soon as you poke anything blue, DC magically shows up!

    Imagine the fun if AD didn't get 160 queue and sent them to chillrend.
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    I've decided to leave Thornblade, as it's impossible to play on that server, and went to Azura's Star, but there's no one there. Not one reply in zone chat. I don't mind switching to a different server, nor do I mind a less active server, but I don't want to be the only person there. I just don't know where else to go. Is Chillrend better?

    Come to Chillrend! As soon as you poke anything blue, DC magically shows up!

    Imagine the fun if AD didn't get 160 queue and sent them to chillrend.

    Imagine the fun if there weren't an additional 160 AD and, instead, they were spread between the two other factions.

    Then imagine if they were spread amongst the different servers.

    THEN IT WOULD BE FUN, EVEN, FAIR FIGHTS FOR EVERYONE!

    THE MADNESS! DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER! MASS HYSTERIA!
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  • Monsoon
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    To answer the OP's question: Nothing
  • decado0024_ESO
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    LonePirate wrote: »
    Lorkhan wrote: »
    LonePirate wrote: »
    The queue is only that long for AD players on Thornblade. You could always join a different campaign, such as Chillrend. I guarantee if you join that campaign and start taking keeps, you will be rewarded with plenty of PVP gameplay.

    WHAT? "guarantee"? do you ever guest chillrend? no pvp there, just pve.

    If you are AD like the OP, capture some keeps on Chillrend. The PVP should magically appear shortly thereafter.

    No one wants to go to a buff server and take keeps. As the aggressors on a buff server you are extremely underpowered compared to your competition. Then you have to factor in all the buff server rejects that pvp on thorn but only after they are buffed from the other campaign they rush to defend as soon as they see their stats dropping. Then you have to add in the massive zerg of PVE mouth breathers that are going to flood in and throw numbers at anything you own because they cant do AA with out their buffs. Why even bother ZoS has no [snip] left to give for pvp. Their complete silence and lack of even the simple courtesy of a non computer generated response speaks volumes.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]
    Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on October 15, 2014 1:38PM
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  • Nicko_Lps
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    Get serious.


    Nothing is done

    Lol

    Or maybe not lol but whatever
  • Psilent
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    Looks like AD is making a push on Azura's Star! Guess they got tired of the queue!
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    Once buff servers go away..I'm thinking the other servers might open up again...Most of the time the reason ya don't bother with anything but thornblade is everything is taken on the other servers....if ya attack a buff server a large zerg will show up to defend it...Once those go away I think the servers will even out.
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    The funny thing is that you guys really bealive AD is over poppulated..

    We have only 2 pvp guilds left. Active.

    How many you have?

    You call us mass zergers but the greatest zerg ive ever sawn is red and i could not bealive my eyes. Really and as honestly as i can be. Blues are kind of in same numbers as AD is sometimes they have huge zergs as well but not often..

    It makes no sence.. It really does not unless if you are reffering to AD in the NA server..

    If you dont bealive that i dont think you are going to... I can give you some screenshots when and if i remember that.
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    Psilent wrote: »
    Looks like AD is making a push on Azura's Star! Guess they got tired of the queue!

    Or the PvP...

  • Krinaman
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    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    The funny thing is that you guys really bealive AD is over poppulated..

    When I read posts from AD complaining about the 150+ queues while rarely seeing a queue at all for DC it's not a hard thing to believe....

  • Lilarna
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    Queues are the sole thing that helps to balance population, I guess.

    So instead of discussing that, shouldn't we make a sharper point to Zeni about lag ? Since it occurs even in fights opposing ridiculously low numbers...

    Fights at 10 vs 20 causes fps to drop... And evensome poeple to crash sometimes... That's much more of an issue in my opinion. :)
  • Honfold
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    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    The funny thing is that you guys really bealive AD is over poppulated..

    We have only 2 pvp guilds left. Active.

    How many you have?

    You call us mass zergers but the greatest zerg ive ever sawn is red and i could not bealive my eyes. Really and as honestly as i can be. Blues are kind of in same numbers as AD is sometimes they have huge zergs as well but not often..

    It makes no sence.. It really does not unless if you are reffering to AD in the NA server..

    If you dont bealive that i dont think you are going to... I can give you some screenshots when and if i remember that.

    You need to play the other factions to realize that DC and EP do not have queue list anywhere close to 150+ or even in the 100 range. The largest queue I have seen for DC was somewhere around 30. Even when you look at the campaign populations you can see the difference, unless some massive change has occurred in the last couple weeks since I have taken time off.

    If AD players are complaining about wait times, then they should seriously think about changing factions. At the rate Zenimax makes positive changes, it could be a long time before we see a paid or unpaid character transfer service.
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Honfold wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    The funny thing is that you guys really bealive AD is over poppulated..

    We have only 2 pvp guilds left. Active.

    How many you have?

    You call us mass zergers but the greatest zerg ive ever sawn is red and i could not bealive my eyes. Really and as honestly as i can be. Blues are kind of in same numbers as AD is sometimes they have huge zergs as well but not often..

    It makes no sence.. It really does not unless if you are reffering to AD in the NA server..

    If you dont bealive that i dont think you are going to... I can give you some screenshots when and if i remember that.

    You need to play the other factions to realize that DC and EP do not have queue list anywhere close to 150+ or even in the 100 range. The largest queue I have seen for DC was somewhere around 30. Even when you look at the campaign populations you can see the difference, unless some massive change has occurred in the last couple weeks since I have taken time off.

    If AD players are complaining about wait times, then they should seriously think about changing factions. At the rate Zenimax makes positive changes, it could be a long time before we see a paid or unpaid character transfer service.

    Very much this.

    Even if ZOS is going to implement faction change features, by the time it happens, AD players could have already rerolled, gotten to VR14, and geared themselves up and be playing without wait times.

    All this while making the game healthier and the populations more equal. A win for everyone involved.

    Don't rely on ZOS, folks. I know that they should be responsible for the fix. I know they should take steps on their own to help adjust the population.

    But the simple fact is they haven't, and while it shouldn't be behooven on the player base to correct it, we're the only ones who can due to the fact that ZOS is dragging their feet on this.

    Until ZOS implements population control mechanics, the players are the only ones who can fix it.


    Is it right? No. Is it reality? Yes.
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  • Braidas
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    Honfold wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    The funny thing is that you guys really bealive AD is over poppulated..

    We have only 2 pvp guilds left. Active.

    How many you have?

    You call us mass zergers but the greatest zerg ive ever sawn is red and i could not bealive my eyes. Really and as honestly as i can be. Blues are kind of in same numbers as AD is sometimes they have huge zergs as well but not often..

    It makes no sence.. It really does not unless if you are reffering to AD in the NA server..

    If you dont bealive that i dont think you are going to... I can give you some screenshots when and if i remember that.

    You need to play the other factions to realize that DC and EP do not have queue list anywhere close to 150+ or even in the 100 range. The largest queue I have seen for DC was somewhere around 30. Even when you look at the campaign populations you can see the difference, unless some massive change has occurred in the last couple weeks since I have taken time off.

    If AD players are complaining about wait times, then they should seriously think about changing factions. At the rate Zenimax makes positive changes, it could be a long time before we see a paid or unpaid character transfer service.

    Very much this.

    Even if ZOS is going to implement faction change features, by the time it happens, AD players could have already rerolled, gotten to VR14, and geared themselves up and be playing without wait times.

    All this while making the game healthier and the populations more equal. A win for everyone involved.

    Don't rely on ZOS, folks. I know that they should be responsible for the fix. I know they should take steps on their own to help adjust the population.

    But the simple fact is they haven't, and while it shouldn't be behooven on the player base to correct it, we're the only ones who can due to the fact that ZOS is dragging their feet on this.

    Until ZOS implements population control mechanics, the players are the only ones who can fix it.


    Is it right? No. Is it reality? Yes.
    Apparently making it much much easier to grind vet levels w/ 1.5 too, like 1.5 mil a lvl or somethin...tht's nothin no excuses AD
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Braidas wrote: »
    Honfold wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    The funny thing is that you guys really bealive AD is over poppulated..

    We have only 2 pvp guilds left. Active.

    How many you have?

    You call us mass zergers but the greatest zerg ive ever sawn is red and i could not bealive my eyes. Really and as honestly as i can be. Blues are kind of in same numbers as AD is sometimes they have huge zergs as well but not often..

    It makes no sence.. It really does not unless if you are reffering to AD in the NA server..

    If you dont bealive that i dont think you are going to... I can give you some screenshots when and if i remember that.

    You need to play the other factions to realize that DC and EP do not have queue list anywhere close to 150+ or even in the 100 range. The largest queue I have seen for DC was somewhere around 30. Even when you look at the campaign populations you can see the difference, unless some massive change has occurred in the last couple weeks since I have taken time off.

    If AD players are complaining about wait times, then they should seriously think about changing factions. At the rate Zenimax makes positive changes, it could be a long time before we see a paid or unpaid character transfer service.

    Very much this.

    Even if ZOS is going to implement faction change features, by the time it happens, AD players could have already rerolled, gotten to VR14, and geared themselves up and be playing without wait times.

    All this while making the game healthier and the populations more equal. A win for everyone involved.

    Don't rely on ZOS, folks. I know that they should be responsible for the fix. I know they should take steps on their own to help adjust the population.

    But the simple fact is they haven't, and while it shouldn't be behooven on the player base to correct it, we're the only ones who can due to the fact that ZOS is dragging their feet on this.

    Until ZOS implements population control mechanics, the players are the only ones who can fix it.


    Is it right? No. Is it reality? Yes.
    Apparently making it much much easier to grind vet levels w/ 1.5 too, like 1.5 mil a lvl or somethin...tht's nothin no excuses AD

    Yup, definitely something to point out. They are drastically cutting the cost to gain Veteran Ranks. That's nearly 2/3rds reduction for most levels right there.

    This makes rerolling easier and simpler. You should be able to grind V1-14 in Craglorn (after 1.5) in a day, maybe two.
    Edited by Agrippa_Invisus on October 15, 2014 3:56PM
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  • Nicko_Lps
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    Honfold wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    The funny thing is that you guys really bealive AD is over poppulated..

    We have only 2 pvp guilds left. Active.

    How many you have?

    You call us mass zergers but the greatest zerg ive ever sawn is red and i could not bealive my eyes. Really and as honestly as i can be. Blues are kind of in same numbers as AD is sometimes they have huge zergs as well but not often..

    It makes no sence.. It really does not unless if you are reffering to AD in the NA server..

    If you dont bealive that i dont think you are going to... I can give you some screenshots when and if i remember that.

    You need to play the other factions to realize that DC and EP do not have queue list anywhere close to 150+ or even in the 100 range. The largest queue I have seen for DC was somewhere around 30. Even when you look at the campaign populations you can see the difference, unless some massive change has occurred in the last couple weeks since I have taken time off.

    If AD players are complaining about wait times, then they should seriously think about changing factions. At the rate Zenimax makes positive changes, it could be a long time before we see a paid or unpaid character transfer service.

    Im not complaining about anything i just said in some days i really find much more DC people than we are others EP.

    That exists,and i am not a fan of this i really want this to be out of any campain.

    I did commented this before in the forum i dont want my alliance to have more than urs neither urs having more than mine.

    I wanna play fair and play with competition,otherwise i would play haderus i guess..
  • Honfold
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    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Honfold wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    The funny thing is that you guys really bealive AD is over poppulated..

    We have only 2 pvp guilds left. Active.

    How many you have?

    You call us mass zergers but the greatest zerg ive ever sawn is red and i could not bealive my eyes. Really and as honestly as i can be. Blues are kind of in same numbers as AD is sometimes they have huge zergs as well but not often..

    It makes no sence.. It really does not unless if you are reffering to AD in the NA server..

    If you dont bealive that i dont think you are going to... I can give you some screenshots when and if i remember that.

    You need to play the other factions to realize that DC and EP do not have queue list anywhere close to 150+ or even in the 100 range. The largest queue I have seen for DC was somewhere around 30. Even when you look at the campaign populations you can see the difference, unless some massive change has occurred in the last couple weeks since I have taken time off.

    If AD players are complaining about wait times, then they should seriously think about changing factions. At the rate Zenimax makes positive changes, it could be a long time before we see a paid or unpaid character transfer service.

    Im not complaining about anything i just said in some days i really find much more DC people than we are others EP.

    That exists,and i am not a fan of this i really want this to be out of any campain.

    I did commented this before in the forum i dont want my alliance to have more than urs neither urs having more than mine.

    I wanna play fair and play with competition,otherwise i would play haderus i guess..

    Wasn't targeting you in that. It is just a response to the general topic of overpopulation.

  • Mojomonkeyman
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    The faction complainers here are all NA, Nicko. They just forget to mention since they tend to forget there is a EU server which has totally different pops. Our EP is their AD.

    Love how you try shutting down the guy who directly mentioned he is from EU. Well done and very classy, go USA!
    Koma Grey, Chocolate Thunder, Little Mojo, Dagoth Mojo & Mojomancy
  • onlinegamer1
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    Update: I re-rolled DC (5th vr14) prior to Scorpion nerf.

    Queue is either non-existent, or <10 at the time that I play.

    At least I have 4 vr14 crafting mules....
  • Nicko_Lps
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    Honfold wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    The funny thing is that you guys really bealive AD is over poppulated..

    We have only 2 pvp guilds left. Active.

    How many you have?

    You call us mass zergers but the greatest zerg ive ever sawn is red and i could not bealive my eyes. Really and as honestly as i can be. Blues are kind of in same numbers as AD is sometimes they have huge zergs as well but not often..

    It makes no sence.. It really does not unless if you are reffering to AD in the NA server..

    If you dont bealive that i dont think you are going to... I can give you some screenshots when and if i remember that.

    You need to play the other factions to realize that DC and EP do not have queue list anywhere close to 150+ or even in the 100 range. The largest queue I have seen for DC was somewhere around 30. Even when you look at the campaign populations you can see the difference, unless some massive change has occurred in the last couple weeks since I have taken time off.

    If AD players are complaining about wait times, then they should seriously think about changing factions. At the rate Zenimax makes positive changes, it could be a long time before we see a paid or unpaid character transfer service.

    Thats because we play daytime and most reds play night time,the nightcampers NEVER see a que.

    Even 30+ nightcamping reds need 2-3 hours to take 2 keeps from 10 15 AD that is the main problem not that AD is really alot.

    Go night camp as the reds do,just did btw 40-50 against 15 ad to take one scroll.Most nightcampers need to sleep tho as well? so not their day morning time so stop crying about lots of ad play daytime all of you and we will see the pop how it is
  • Nicko_Lps
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    Krinaman wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    The funny thing is that you guys really bealive AD is over poppulated..

    When I read posts from AD complaining about the 150+ queues while rarely seeing a queue at all for DC it's not a hard thing to believe....

    Yep you never have those ques,cause all of your fraction is mainly nightcamping.Low popolation dont have ques.

    So funny that nightcamping red zergs is the only thing they can do lol
  • Jahosefat
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    Until you reroll into another faction (EP or DC), then you can suffer.

    Stop your ridiculous faction stacking and maybe you'll get to pvp in a timely fashion!

    Because I'm sure he knew how imbalanced the PVP populations would be when he created his toon.... Like most AD he likely conspired with the masses to stack the alliance with an overabundance of zerglings.

    Telling people to "just re-roll" is ridiculous, and you are only saying that because you 1) are in a position where you don't need to re-roll to avoid long queue times or 2) you have so much free time you can level an alt in couple of weeks.

    Some people (myself included) rolled our toons at pre-release and have invested an incredible amount of our scant leisure time into our characters. "Just re-rolling" isn't something I am going to do, as it would take me months to get another character up to par with my main. And it isn't just the VR leveling, it's the alliance war leveling that people don't want to throw away. And I think this is how most people on AD feel about it.

    This is something ZOS needs to resolve through: 1) incentives 2) character transfers or 3) expanding the player base.
    Joeshock- AD NA AB Thorn Chill Sorc New Eden Low Sec Roamer

    Fight not with monsters lest ye become one
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