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What have we really been getting in the updates?

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Here is a brief summary of the patches and content we have gotten:
1.1 - Lower Craglorn - group PvE content
1.2 - Veteran Crypt of Hearts - group PvE content
1.3 - Dyes, Trials hard modes, guild heraldry - group PvE and miscellaneous time killers (which were needed)
1.4 - Upper Craglorn, new trial, dragonstar arena, larger delves - PvE group content

There have been 0 updates with any significant content for players who don't either do trials or other group content. On top of this there has been no new content for PvP since launch which is outrageous. I love this game, but not having any content for PvP after this long and gating levels behind content that most people don't want to do is just poor planning or neglecting a large portion of your player base. ZOS, when are we going to get some PvP content? Or just some solo play content?
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    Imperial city is coming. TH and DB also in the not so far future. Enough for you?
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    Imperial city is coming. TH and DB also in the not so far future. Enough for you?

    This post is about what we have so far not what will be coming. And devs have already said no champion system or imperial city in 1.5 so now its 1.6 and who knows if we get it then. Now we are on 1.7 ....
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    Sorry. You asked when you get some new features and I answered. So, they do their best. Also, you always have what to do in PvP. Really, do PvP. Dominate in home campaign, then go to another as a guest. Don't do group PvE? What you expect to do solo? You can farm delves in VR zones. Or RP. Or you can level another character(ok, this isn't end-game pve content, but anyway, why not). See, it a lot of to do.
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    What we had in in the initial release. Only 6 real vet dungeons that weren't really worth playing more than once. That is ~0 end game pve group content in an MMO. They still didn't add enough end game group pve content to really sustain this game in the log run I think. It was the smart/only decision for them to add group end game in the first few updates since it had none at launch and in the end this is the content that will keep most subs in the long run.
    Edited by PBpsy on October 13, 2014 5:50PM
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  • Ryzium
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    Sorry. You asked when you get some new features and I answered. So, they do their best. Also, you always have what to do in PvP. Really, do PvP. Dominate in home campaign, then go to another as a guest. Don't do group PvE? What you expect to do solo? You can farm delves in VR zones. Or RP. Or you can level another character(ok, this isn't end-game pve content, but anyway, why not). See, it a lot of to do.

    I have 4 alts, I think RP is pointless, they have already said they are releasing a solo zone, PvP doesn't have any new content and the content that's there doesn't work under server stress
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    A multiplayer game releases group content. How shocking. I wonder what we'll see next?
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    1.3 - Expanded delves in Coldharbour. Extra quests in Zones 3, 4 and 5 that I could determine, possibly zones 1 and 2 and Coldharbour also.
    1.4 - Expanded delves in The Rift, Bangkorai and AD Zone 5 (Reaper's March?)

    I know, it's not a lot considering the game launched with no solo content whatsoever...
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    1.4 - Expanded delves in The Rift, Bangkorai and AD Zone 5 (Reaper's March?

    Auridon, actually.
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    I know, it's not a lot considering the game launched with no solo content whatsoever...

    I guess I was just phantasising when I was unable to group for any of the Main Quest missions then...
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    AlnilamE wrote: »

    I know, it's not a lot considering the game launched with no solo content whatsoever...


    Hang on, what!? I hope that is a joke. 1-50 is all very solo-able. In fact, the main quest is forced solo as well as Fighters and Mages Guild quests.
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    I understand there have been n slight changes but there have been no meaningful content patches for PvP or solo play
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    AlnilamE wrote: »
    I know, it's not a lot considering the game launched with no solo content whatsoever...

    I guess I was just phantasising when I was unable to group for any of the Main Quest missions then...

    I guess after a month into release I was fantasizing about all 3 faction zones too,
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    Resueht wrote: »
    AlnilamE wrote: »

    I know, it's not a lot considering the game launched with no solo content whatsoever...


    Hang on, what!? I hope that is a joke. 1-50 is all very solo-able. In fact, the main quest is forced solo as well as Fighters and Mages Guild quests.

    Since when has getting to max rank been anything other than grinding levels?
    Edited by Ryzium on October 13, 2014 5:59PM
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    Have to agree...and the new content, at least for me, is terrible. I like a challenge, but I've tried trials one too many times and failed, despite buring dozens of potions and tons of coin for repair. I'm done with them. Adding more trials means adding nothing to me, and guessing many others players.

    And the Craglorn quests...no real reward for doing them, and they're not that interesting.

    For me, content wise since launch...it's been grinding options.

    At least they're trying I guess.
    Edited by reften on October 13, 2014 5:58PM
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  • Ryzium
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    AlnilamE wrote: »
    I know, it's not a lot considering the game launched with no solo content whatsoever...

    I guess I was just phantasising when I was unable to group for any of the Main Quest missions then...

    I guess after a month into release I was fantasizing about all 3 faction zones too,

    Yea, they said that wasn't even a possibility.
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    Ryzium wrote: »
    Resueht wrote: »
    AlnilamE wrote: »

    I know, it's not a lot considering the game launched with no solo content whatsoever...


    Hang on, what!? I hope that is a joke. 1-50 is all very solo-able. In fact, the main quest is forced solo as well as Fighters and Mages Guild quests.

    Since when has getting to max rank been anything other than grinding levels?

    Since when has it been a race to max level? I understand that people like to race to the top but there really is no need to. I've enjoyed taking my time through all the 1-50 quests. If you chose to speed through them and "grind" them out, then you are missing a lot of the solo content.
    If she doesn't know the pain of cliffracers, she's too young for you.
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    Resueht wrote: »
    Ryzium wrote: »
    Resueht wrote: »
    AlnilamE wrote: »

    I know, it's not a lot considering the game launched with no solo content whatsoever...


    Hang on, what!? I hope that is a joke. 1-50 is all very solo-able. In fact, the main quest is forced solo as well as Fighters and Mages Guild quests.

    Since when has getting to max rank been anything other than grinding levels?

    Since when has it been a race to max level? I understand that people like to race to the top but there really is no need to. I've enjoyed taking my time through all the 1-50 quests. If you chose to speed through them and "grind" them out, then you are missing a lot of the solo content.

    I have done my share of the 1-50 content. Every quest in the EP and DC as well as about half the quests in AD. I don't need to do that anymore. I want end game content for solo play
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    Imperial city is coming. TH and DB also in the not so far future. Enough for you?

    Are you paid by ESO?

  • Resueht
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    Ryzium wrote: »
    Resueht wrote: »
    Ryzium wrote: »
    Resueht wrote: »
    AlnilamE wrote: »

    I know, it's not a lot considering the game launched with no solo content whatsoever...


    Hang on, what!? I hope that is a joke. 1-50 is all very solo-able. In fact, the main quest is forced solo as well as Fighters and Mages Guild quests.

    Since when has getting to max rank been anything other than grinding levels?

    Since when has it been a race to max level? I understand that people like to race to the top but there really is no need to. I've enjoyed taking my time through all the 1-50 quests. If you chose to speed through them and "grind" them out, then you are missing a lot of the solo content.

    I have done my share of the 1-50 content. Every quest in the EP and DC as well as about half the quests in AD. I don't need to do that anymore. I want end game content for solo play

    And so do I but the statement about the game launching with no solo content was ludicrous.
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  • Ryzium
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    Imperial city is coming. TH and DB also in the not so far future. Enough for you?

    Are you paid by ESO?

    He basically quotes them so....

    But all jokes aside, saying content is coming means nothing
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    I agree in that I want some content diversity. Some difficult solo content that will be too hard for most of the playerbase to complete without sinking significant time in to getting better. It would be nice to have something I can jump in on off hours when I'm not doing group content.

    That's not too say I don't appreciate what's been added already/what's on the horizon. So far I'm happy with the content released.
    Edited by BBSooner on October 13, 2014 6:14PM
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    Resueht wrote: »
    Ryzium wrote: »
    Resueht wrote: »
    Ryzium wrote: »
    Resueht wrote: »
    AlnilamE wrote: »

    I know, it's not a lot considering the game launched with no solo content whatsoever...


    Hang on, what!? I hope that is a joke. 1-50 is all very solo-able. In fact, the main quest is forced solo as well as Fighters and Mages Guild quests.

    Since when has getting to max rank been anything other than grinding levels?

    Since when has it been a race to max level? I understand that people like to race to the top but there really is no need to. I've enjoyed taking my time through all the 1-50 quests. If you chose to speed through them and "grind" them out, then you are missing a lot of the solo content.

    I have done my share of the 1-50 content. Every quest in the EP and DC as well as about half the quests in AD. I don't need to do that anymore. I want end game content for solo play

    And so do I but the statement about the game launching with no solo content was ludicrous.

    I believe that is what's known as "sarcasm."

    I can understand if you don't recognise it, as it is a rare form of communication on the internet [/sarcasm]

    Though, my own sarcasm detector could be overtuned... ;)
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  • Mercurio
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    wait, so the "no solo content at launch" WASN'T a joke? Oh boy. 3 factions worth of solo questing that everyone and their mother complained was TOO MUCH content. The rush to max level for more solo..umm..questing? Mob farming? I'm having trouble understanding.
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    Ryzium wrote: »
    Imperial city is coming. TH and DB also in the not so far future. Enough for you?

    Are you paid by ESO?

    He basically quotes them so....

    But all jokes aside, saying content is coming means nothing

    They relayed what we know to be coming for solo PvE in the near future. What sort of answer are you looking for?

    Solo PvE content in the near future is the best we get for now, besides 1-50 and VR 1-10.

    Are you actually asking a question here, or just venting?

  • Shunravi
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    Ryzium wrote: »
    Imperial city is coming. TH and DB also in the not so far future. Enough for you?

    Are you paid by ESO?

    He basically quotes them so....

    But all jokes aside, saying content is coming means nothing

    They relayed what we know to be coming for solo PvE in the near future. What sort of answer are you looking for?

    Solo PvE content in the near future is the best we get for now, besides 1-50 and VR 1-10.

    Are you actually asking a question here, or just venting?

    I believe he's asking for more PvP content.

    Maybe change some objectives arround a bit or add more.

    I mean, he only mentioned PvP 3 times vs a dismissive nod to solo in the OP.
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  • Ryzium
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    Ryzium wrote: »
    Imperial city is coming. TH and DB also in the not so far future. Enough for you?

    Are you paid by ESO?

    He basically quotes them so....

    But all jokes aside, saying content is coming means nothing

    They relayed what we know to be coming for solo PvE in the near future. What sort of answer are you looking for?

    Solo PvE content in the near future is the best we get for now, besides 1-50 and VR 1-10.

    Are you actually asking a question here, or just venting?

    This thread wasn't a question, it wase pointing out the content we have received from the 4 content patches that have been released since launch.
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  • Gedalya
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    Your missing the numerous (nay countless?) bug fixes (and new bugs?!).

    Also, why the hate for the existing updates? LOTRO didn't get as big as it is over night; it took what, 6 or 7 years? If you're so impatient your in for quite a disappointment.

    Patient-bear.jpg
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    Well,

    I agree that the updates so far only added raid and dungeon content, too much if you ask me as people who do this are probably not the majority.

    That said, a solo gamer has no right to complain at all either. There are 50 levels full on solo without any group opportunities, the VR zones were nerfed so that solo gamers can do them with one finger now - that's a hell lot more than all the dungeons, raids and pvp together.

    In future they will release a pvp city, a full solo zone and another group so I guess everyone should get what he wants.

    Right now the RP gamer seems to be forgotten as there is no housing even announced for 2015 :(
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    AlnilamE wrote: »
    I know, it's not a lot considering the game launched with no solo content whatsoever...

    I guess I was just phantasising when I was unable to group for any of the Main Quest missions then...
    Resueht wrote: »
    AlnilamE wrote: »

    I know, it's not a lot considering the game launched with no solo content whatsoever...


    Hang on, what!? I hope that is a joke. 1-50 is all very solo-able. In fact, the main quest is forced solo as well as Fighters and Mages Guild quests.
    Mercurio wrote: »
    wait, so the "no solo content at launch" WASN'T a joke? Oh boy. 3 factions worth of solo questing that everyone and their mother complained was TOO MUCH content. The rush to max level for more solo..umm..questing? Mob farming? I'm having trouble understanding.

    Sorry guys, I thought it was obvious I was joking there. I will be sure to add a :-P in the future when I'm being sarcastic.

    :-)
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