Not everyone is involved with the war. From a realistic perspective, many "adventurers" care little about politics. My DC sorc would very much love to run trials/Vet dungeons, etc. with my EP friends I made way after creating her.

Cross faction PvE dungeons/trials etc. fall just short of being a necessity, but would be a excellent addition. Even within guild members only at the very least.

Because MMO = PVP am i rite?!?!

Its limiting, I wish they would change this, it really doesnt matter in PVE especially when anyone who pre-ordered imperial can make any race in any faction.

jambam817_ESO wrote: »

Because MMO = PVP am i rite?!?!

In my opinion that should be a choice and you should be able to do that anywhere you want with those who opt to participate in it.

babylon wrote: »

I never want to see open world pvp, this is a terrible idea and most of us do not want forced pvp maps.

Cheers, but no thanks.

I find it a bit tiresome to explain to people that i am not wishing for open world pvp. What i am wishing is that it is a choice which everyone should and could do anywhere they want by flagging themselves for PVP if they want to do PVP.

PVE players will not have an open world PVP if they dont flag themselves for PVP ^^ They might see people who attack eachother but that should not bother anyone as that should really be a part of natural world which is at war.

I for one mostly play PVE-RP but i would just like to have more choices and more realistic Tamriel.

babylon wrote: »

I never want to see open world pvp, this is a terrible idea and most of us do not want forced pvp maps.

Cheers, but no thanks.

We can open up the whole world to allow grouping between factions and keep PvP only in Cyrodiil. It would be a horrible idea to have PvP in every zone.

Yes, factions mean nothing right now since we are made to either betray our own faction or to grind in Craplorn.

I also FULLY agree that FULL open world PVP is a bad bad idea.

What i really wish is fully open world without stupid borders and separations that do not make sense and i wish that PVP would be optional in every zone if we flag ourselves for participants

I would like them to start introducing one or two freindly areas where all factions can play together. I suspect there is some really deep game structure mechanic that may make this impossible though.

We need this so guilds can get together with all members being able to attend, so people can meet up with freinds, for festivals and fishing contests and all the little social stuff that makes an online game tick.

I've never even given this any thought while playing; with one exception: when playing Cadwell's Silver and your in another zone, not seeing anyone native to that Alliance. I do understand why this is; I just have thought that if they found a way to make it work that it would feel more realistic that you were supporting that Alliance.

True open world with choices that determine your characters allegiance and all that stuff. These all should be choices you make, not something determined by allegiance.

I hope that some day these borders will just disapear one by one and we can walk or ride to places. I remember my disappointment when i reached my first level 10 and started traveling towards a point where i assumed, would be a gate to Cyrodil. I was going to go and explore the place, not participate in PVP but when i reached that point and there was nothing there, i started traveling across the border and the seamless mountain range that made me frustrated and majorly disappointed at world design.

From a game which traditionally had no such borders, landscape made actual sense and borders were just invisible ones where lanscape still continued.. I expected that world would be open.

Next time i was like scratching my head.. What is this stupid wall between Deshaan and Blackmarsh? It looked temporarily, something they added "For the time being" for reasons unknown to me.. I mean when i am close to that wall.. I can hear the soundscape of Blackmarsh... I can see actual Landscape of Blackmarsh and i even have seen some players at other side of that wall..

While in Blackmarsh.. I can see to actual Deshaan, i can see that Dunmer tower on that village near the wall and trees that exist in Deshaan..

Why are these borders there if the lanscape continues? Zones surrounded by mountains feel strange somehow.. There are gates in Cyrodil to Factional zones, why not make those gates actual working gates where you can walk through and travel where ever you want...

I guess partial reason is that current engine is made in a way that makes all players flagged for PVP by default or something.. i hope if this is so that they will someday fix this and really open the world..

I am totally fine if we can only PVP in Cyrodil.. That does not bother me at all but i think choice is better there than just one place.. Just my point of wiev which i dont wont to push to people.

Heck if they would just open the whole world and all i can see is still my own factions players i would be glad for that but i just think that factions should be mixed like in older MMORPG´s

Faction pride means nothing when you hit VR levels and have to quest in other alliance's zones to do Cadwell's silver and gold to progress any further in PVE questing.

I'm not a fan of the full world PVP idea but having group dungeons, Craglorn, and future adventure zones be multi faction sounds great. It would be nice to be able to get together and do things with guild mates from cross faction guilds without having to be on an alt of the same alliance.

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

k9mouse wrote: »

I agree with ZOS to keep the faction separated to help to keep faction pride, after all they ARE at war with each other and they should NOT help each other for that reason.

Also, keeping the faction separated will help the faction mean something, if anyone can be any faction, then what is the purpose of factions? They have lost their meaning then.

ZOS is doing the right aspect by keeping them separated for those reasons.

Yeah that would be a great reason if it made any sense at all. My Pact sorcerer is currently working for High King Emeric when he is not busy killing Daggerfall Covenant members. You see ZOS already ruined factions having any meaning.

And the only reason they did that was because of the people complaining that they didn't want to have to make more than one character to go through all the content. Since they listened, you now have your EP character helping the AD and DC.

I don't like that, and don't plan to do that. My EP character would NOT help the elves, or the Bretons, for that matter. Not what some players wanted, but the way I'm playing.

Zenimax is damned if they do listen, and damned if they don't listen to what players want.

If you want break the lore , ok............

k9mouse wrote: »

I agree with ZOS to keep the faction separated to help to keep faction pride, after all they ARE at war with each other and they should NOT help each other for that reason.

Also, keeping the faction separated will help the faction mean something, if anyone can be any faction, then what is the purpose of factions? They have lost their meaning then.

ZOS is doing the right aspect by keeping them separated for those reasons.

Well, atm a big problem is there isn't much separating the factions in terms of philosophy, ideology etc. Fundamentally they have no meaning in this game.

In Morrowind, for example, each of the great houses had a different feel.

Same with The Secret World, there were definite differences between, say, the Templars and the Illuminati.

And The Secret World's faction system at least allowed players to PvE with people in other factions, which is something this game should have done.

Tapio75 wrote: »

Why is that? Why is Cyrodil the only place i can see other factions players?

Why not just make a PVP falg which we could turn on and off and then open the whole world so we can go anywhere and do what ever we want?

I just wish it would truly be an open world experience and not this "people be separated# craå which annoyed me in SWTOR as well.

The largest issue at the moment is the levels of the zones for vet content.

If I am in Reapers March with an EP character, I am in a level VR9-10 zone.

Since the NPC's, quests, creatures, monsters, etc. are all of the same level, it would be impossible to share that zone with level 40 AD Characters.

One group would suffer. Either it will be a nightmare for AD to level in the zone, or EP would be one shotting everything and facerolling through content without being able to get any loot or XP.

The only real way for Zenimax to accomplish and create shared zones would be going forward and building new ones from the ground up that allowed all factions to equally share in the zone.

They could have done this with Craglorn, but then its release would have been severely delayed since it was already well into production before game release.

I do hope that going forward new zones that are starting production now will be built with the ability to share the zones across all 3 factions.

Having new zones that are shared could then allow informal grouping, at least, so that even if you cannot officially group with other faction members, you can still open pug the world bosses, public dungeons and delves, etc.

The zone could also allow On Flag PvP if Zenimax decided to try it out to see how well the users accept that ability.