hiyde wrote: »

Best way to help until it's fixed? Show up and help kill everything that spawns, as was intended. That's, unquestionably, a fair grind.

And be prepared for a lot of abuse if you do, lol.

That could be entertaining...

All the other TES games are sRPG...

I wonder if these people are bored and claim "nothing to do" once they reach vr14. Or eight vr14's, whatever the case may be. They will probably sell the stuff, get bored and cancel their sub with a few million gold on the account. No loss.

I don't care if someone is grinding XP, it doesn't affect anyone else's game play. The whole excuse of "they haven't learned to play" is a poor rationalization. They would simply prefer to do a quicker grind then the questing grind. They're probably straight off to PvP after hitting VR14, at which point it will be very obvious if they can't play.

The boss loot is also not a valid argument, boss loot is on a timer.

Not everyone wants to have a second career of ESO questing. They want the short path to end game content, with the hope that what is there will be interesting enough for them. The questing (which I personally enjoy some of the time) simply isn't for everyone. If they enjoyed the questing they would be doing it. Remove their ability to get to the parts of the game they will enjoy, and you've removed their interest in playing (and subscribing to) the game. I don't see how that's in the long term interests of the product.

ESO made an attempt to make most aspects of the game accessible to all players, but their attempt was unsuccessful. They're still balancing / tuning the game, and until they get a good balance (which could take years), why complain against the players who are simply skipping content they don't like to get to content they do like? Unless game balance is an issue here (which it is not), there's no reason to make this an issue. Players grind to max level so they can be on even footing in PvP and do some of the end game raid content. What is the point of taking that away from them?

zbtiqua wrote: »

polar wrote: »

Yea, I see no problem with this. So people want a way to get to VR14 without doing step by step through Cadwell's Silver and Gold. ..who cares? Pick your battles. If anything, I am a twinge jealous.. I wish I had such a smooth grind to get VR14.. but alas, I am already there.

I am happy to see a way for folks to quickly get some XP. Does not hurt me one bit... as a matter of fact, it may help me having more people that can group at my level.

If they have no idea how to play their class/role because they sat on a rock and killed scorpions to max level, that will present a problem for your group when trying to complete content...

The majority of the players that grind at the moment are on their 2nd ,3rd... character and they probably know how to play the game pretty well. Also the solo zones are not in any way a preparation for group end game content or pvp.The solo zones are there to feed you lore and stories.The gameplay in those zones is actually what generates bad builds and very inefficient and dumb, special snowflake, selfish "play as you want" play styles.

The only way to get good at pvp is to do a lot of pvp. The only way to get good at end game pve is to play a lot of pve, talk to others,experiment different builds, research your class strengths and be willing to adjust your play depending on your team and the battle.

Has it occurred to you that some people enjoy grinding more than questing? Doing quests in enemy factions for 0.0001% of your level is much more mind numbingly boring than any grind in Craglorn. Why should people have to play the way you want them to play?

I was watching this happening yesterday and the people were fine with other players coming and killing the boss if they needed to get it done. What was really funny though was when someone would jump in for the only purpose of killing the adds to upset the ones grinding. They would stop heals and let them die everytime.

Honestly the only issue I see here is the gold you can get out of this grind, the XP is good but most of these players are on their second or third alt and don't wish to quest the same zones over and over again, and the pathetic XP from pvp just doesn't cut it.

As only 12 players get the exp and loot, they will have to fix this before the Champion system is released. (as farming Champion points, the whole SERVER will try this spot) Its currently the fastest exp in the game and good loot. People only leave to sell nearby, average 15k gold from trash every 25 mins.

There is already two groups of 12 fighting there right now hassling each other and each claiming the other is stealing there exp\loot. (a few are V14's just there for the fast gold)

But even if the whole server DOES try this spot, ESO is so slow at fixing theses things, we will see it stay like this until Feb 2015

AssaultLemming wrote: »

firstdecan wrote: »

The boss loot is also not a valid argument, boss loot is on a timer.

Unfortunately this boss is not on the timer, loot drops like crazy, more than I have ever seen anywhere in this game. Only seems to be blue and green but it is way too easy to get gold here. risk vs reward is way out of whack. You can spam one skill for ten minutes, loot once and get full bags.

Unfortunately?

The only people this is unfortunate for are the people who grinded out VR in the VR zones.

Sucks for them though.

Not just about XP. It's also about more loot than people "...have ever seen anywhere in game."

From resetting a mob every 10 seconds by jumping on a rock.

If this isn't an exploit, *nothing* is.

Technically, it is a game mechanic put in place by ZOS.

Now that's just desperate.

Once everyone sees its also one of the fast gold per hour as it is also the fastest exp per hour I wonder how long before groups of 12 V14 player camp it for just the gold and fights break out.