Is the game no longer available for pre-order on xbox one?

EJRose83 · October 2014

My wife's getting me an xbone for christmas, mainly due to the fact that I wanted to play ESO on it, and it appears as though the game is no longer available for pre-order. Is it still in the works, or has it been put on indefinite hold for unknown reasons? If it's not coming out for the xbox one anytime in the foreseeable future, I'd rather invest in upgrading my laptop than get a new xbox. With the holidays coming upon us, I'm sure this question is relevant to a lot of players. Perhaps not that many, but still a significant amount. An answer on the dev's behalf would be appreciated.

Thanks

Rodario · October 2014

Why anyone would want to play an MMORPG on a console, especially when it's also available on PC, is still beyond me.

To answer your question, it's still available for pre-order.

EJRose83 · October 2014

I couldn't find it on the official zenimax store anywhere. It used to be.... So far, I've only seen pre-orders available from third party vendors.

EJRose83 · October 2014

As far as why I'd rather play on console:

It's drastically cheaper than buying a new gaming laptop, I wouldn't have to worry about add-ons offering other players an advantage and I could enjoy standardized performance with everyone I'm playing with. That and I'm genuinely curious as to how it will turn out.

ThePonzzz · October 2014

Rodario wrote: »

Why anyone would want to play an MMORPG on a console, especially when it's also available on PC, is still beyond me.

This seems pretty short-sighted. Consoles are at least primed to handle the graphics. A PC may not have everything to run it smoothly. Hell, I did, and ran the game fine until the lighting changes in July.

Rodario · October 2014

ThePonzzz wrote: »

Rodario wrote: »

Why anyone would want to play an MMORPG on a console, especially when it's also available on PC, is still beyond me.

This seems pretty short-sighted. Consoles are at least primed to handle graphics. A PC may not have everything to run it smoothly. Hell, I did, and ran the game fine until the lighting changes in July.

Atreus wrote: »

As far as why I'd rather play on console:

It's drastically cheaper than buying a new gaming laptop, I wouldn't have to worry about add-ons offering other players an advantage and I could enjoy standardized performance with everyone I'm playing with. That and I'm genuinely curious as to how it will turn out.

Chances are graphics will not be as good as max settings on PC. Mistakes will happen with console patches as well, only there 100% of players will be affected.

I was thinking more of the controls. Unfortunately we already have the console control layout/scheme in the PC version, but at least we have keyboards for chat and we can assingn actions to way more buttons. (don't tell me about combining controller keys for commands. Weirdly this does not seem to be possible at all right now. Only presets use combinations, you can't assign any yourself.)

There's genres that simply work best with mouse & keyboard. Adapting those to controller input always means severely limiting commands.

Can you imagine playing a strategy title on a console? Playing MMORPGs on console seems just as weird to me.

Yes you can hook up a keyboard and mouse to a console, but what you are left with is basically a very weak and restricted mock PC.

You can build a gaming PC for a little more money than a console costs, money you will gain back because games are less expensive and you can upgrade hardware as needed.

Never mind the fact you probably need a PC as well, so instead of spending 400-600$ on a console + 600$ on a weak office PC, cough up around 300$ more and build/buy yourself a decent gaming PC for ~1500$, which you can then use for everything. I still run all new titles very smoothly on a 6 year old rig that cost me 2500$ back then and I've only once upgraded it with a new graphics card some 2 years ago.

1ne2woBe · October 2014

Rodario wrote: »

There's genres that simply work best with mouse & keyboard. Adapting those to controller input always means severely limiting commands.

Can you imagine playing a strategy title on a console? Playing MMORPGs on console seems just as weird to me.

Yes you can hook up a keyboard and mouse to a console, but what you are left with is basically a very weak and restricted mock PC.

Tell me about it. I play via a gamepad. I'll admit it would be easier with a mouse/keyboard, however I am able to hold my own quite well though. It takes quite a bit of creativity to map the keys properly, however it is playable. I'd have to say the hardest thing to do on a gamepad is kiting. Without some sort of aim-lock, it is pretty rough to move and keep aim on your target. Or when the baddies are moving around all the time.

Nebthet78 · October 2014

1ne2woBe wrote: »

Rodario wrote: »

There's genres that simply work best with mouse & keyboard. Adapting those to controller input always means severely limiting commands.

Can you imagine playing a strategy title on a console? Playing MMORPGs on console seems just as weird to me.

Yes you can hook up a keyboard and mouse to a console, but what you are left with is basically a very weak and restricted mock PC.

Tell me about it. I play via a gamepad. I'll admit it would be easier with a mouse/keyboard, however I am able to hold my own quite well though. It takes quite a bit of creativity to map the keys properly, however it is playable. I'd have to say the hardest thing to do on a gamepad is kiting. Without some sort of aim-lock, it is pretty rough to move and keep aim on your target. Or when the baddies are moving around all the time.

I play this game on a PC, but use a controller. I was able to map almost everything I needed to play this game smoothly. 98% of the time I am using my PS3 controller to play, so I am not finding my commands all that limited.

I only use the mouse for when I am opening a chest to move to the next pin quickly, or I am posting something in the chat window. I use the keyboard only when I need to use the 5th skill, which is hardly ever, or I want to take a screenshot.

The console will have a wee bit more coding to make the precision use of the controller for dialogue selections and moving with in the menu which would be awesome to have in the PC version, but it will never happen.

As for the graphics, console players, at least the ones I have dealt with, are more concerned about stability of play than they are about how pretty things look and will most likely be happy if it looks anything near to what Skyrim did.

Rodario · October 2014

Nebthet78 wrote: »

I use the keyboard only when I need to use the 5th skill, which is hardly ever, or I want to take a screenshot.

I think this is pretty telling. I'm gonna go on a limb here and state that most people use all their skills.

Nebthet78 wrote: »

As for the graphics, console players, at least the ones I have dealt with, are more concerned about stability of play than they are about how pretty things look and will most likely be happy if it looks anything near to what Skyrim did.

Skyrim was nice to look at with mods, but the vanilla version was pretty ugly IMO and I assume even worse on consoles. I get your point, it just bewilders me.

Rodario · October 2014

Atreus wrote: »

I couldn't find it on the official zenimax store anywhere. It used to be.... So far, I've only seen pre-orders available from third party vendors.

To get back on topic, I also checked with 3rd party vendors. Maybe it doesn't mean anything that it's not in the official store right now. Maybe they needed to make adjustments or have another reason to remove it temporarily and it will return.

ers101284b14_ESO · October 2014

Rodario wrote: »

Nebthet78 wrote: »

I use the keyboard only when I need to use the 5th skill, which is hardly ever, or I want to take a screenshot.

I think this is pretty telling. I'm gonna go on a limb here and state that most people use all their skills.

Nebthet78 wrote: »

As for the graphics, console players, at least the ones I have dealt with, are more concerned about stability of play than they are about how pretty things look and will most likely be happy if it looks anything near to what Skyrim did.

Skyrim was nice to look at with mods, but the vanilla version was pretty ugly IMO and I assume even worse on consoles. I get your point, it just bewilders me.

What bewilders you? That console players don't care about graphics. Well that's not entirely true, console players do want pretty graphics they just aren't as worried as pc players. They don't want to spend $1200 to build a high end gaming computer to push better graphics, they don't want to spend weeks on end trying to pick the right compatible parts to build a computer just to have to troubleshoot it if something goes wrong. I have both PC and PS4 and until recently was mostly a console player. I liked being able to just go out and buy the system plug it in and go.

I like being able to trade in my games when I'm done with them. Consoles will never be as good as pc in power and performance and we are ok with that because we can still lounge and play and not worry about all the problems associated with pc.

Rodario · October 2014

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

Rodario wrote: »

Nebthet78 wrote: »

I use the keyboard only when I need to use the 5th skill, which is hardly ever, or I want to take a screenshot.

I think this is pretty telling. I'm gonna go on a limb here and state that most people use all their skills.

Nebthet78 wrote: »

As for the graphics, console players, at least the ones I have dealt with, are more concerned about stability of play than they are about how pretty things look and will most likely be happy if it looks anything near to what Skyrim did.

Skyrim was nice to look at with mods, but the vanilla version was pretty ugly IMO and I assume even worse on consoles. I get your point, it just bewilders me.

What bewilders you? That console players don't care about graphics. Well that's not entirely true, console players do want pretty graphics they just aren't as worried as pc players. They don't want to spend $1200 to build a high end gaming computer to push better graphics, they don't want to spend weeks on end trying to pick the right compatible parts to build a computer just to have to troubleshoot it if something goes wrong. I have both PC and PS4 and until recently was mostly a console player. I liked being able to just go out and buy the system plug it in and go.

I like being able to trade in my games when I'm done with them. Consoles will never be as good as pc in power and performance and we are ok with that because we can still lounge and play and not worry about all the problems associated with pc.

What bewilders me is more that someone thinks vanilla skyrim is nice to look at.

1200$ is not gonna buy you a high end rig, close to decent I'd say.

It takes me 1-2 days to get the parts and build a PC. You could always pay 50% more and get an Alienware rig, that's expensive but hassle-free and their machines are very well built and tested before shipping.

EDIT: I don't know if the statement about Alienware is still true now that it's run by Dell. Options seem severly limited when compared to before.

I guess experiences differ, but I don't seem to have nearly as much trouble with PCs as others do.

pahajuju · October 2014

We are beta testing the game every day for the console release. Hooray for Consoles!
I Don't own one.

ers101284b14_ESO · October 2014

Rodario wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

Rodario wrote: »

Nebthet78 wrote: »

I use the keyboard only when I need to use the 5th skill, which is hardly ever, or I want to take a screenshot.

I think this is pretty telling. I'm gonna go on a limb here and state that most people use all their skills.

Nebthet78 wrote: »

As for the graphics, console players, at least the ones I have dealt with, are more concerned about stability of play than they are about how pretty things look and will most likely be happy if it looks anything near to what Skyrim did.

Skyrim was nice to look at with mods, but the vanilla version was pretty ugly IMO and I assume even worse on consoles. I get your point, it just bewilders me.

What bewilders you? That console players don't care about graphics. Well that's not entirely true, console players do want pretty graphics they just aren't as worried as pc players. They don't want to spend $1200 to build a high end gaming computer to push better graphics, they don't want to spend weeks on end trying to pick the right compatible parts to build a computer just to have to troubleshoot it if something goes wrong. I have both PC and PS4 and until recently was mostly a console player. I liked being able to just go out and buy the system plug it in and go.

I like being able to trade in my games when I'm done with them. Consoles will never be as good as pc in power and performance and we are ok with that because we can still lounge and play and not worry about all the problems associated with pc.

What bewilders me is more that someone thinks vanilla skyrim is nice to look at.

1200$ is not gonna buy you a high end rig, close to decent I'd say.

It takes me 1-2 days to get the parts and build a PC. You could always pay 50% more and get an Alienware rig, that's expensive but hassle-free and their machines are very well built and tested before shipping.

I guess experiences differ, but I don't seem to have nearly as much trouble with PCs as others do.

Yeah all Elder Scrolls games get better after its modded. Alienware is ok but like Mac your more paying for the name. A guy I knew saved up for an Alienware and it only lasted him a week before it pooped out. I had a few problems with my rig. Had 2 motherboards go bad on me and up to my 3rd one. The case I have will only fit the video card I have, I bought a second 7870 but it was a twin frozer not AMD Radeon and there's this little notch the Radeon has that the frozer didn't that allowed the Radeon to fit into the case. My high end mouse I bought only lasted 2 months but my PS4 controller is still fine.

Hypertionb14_ESO · October 2014

im more amused by the "have to by a gaming LAPTOP" comment.

half the cost and you can by 3x the power on a PC... the cost of a new console you can make a PC strong enough to play this game anyways...

The cheaper 150$ Graphics card options are enough to run on near max settings with only things like particle system turned down.

AlexDougherty · October 2014

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

im more amused by the "have to by a gaming LAPTOP" comment.

half the cost and you can by 3x the power on a PC... the cost of a new console you can make a PC strong enough to play this game anyways...

The cheaper 150$ Graphics card options are enough to run on near max settings with only things like particle system turned down.

Might be a space available issue, someone I know has no room in her house for a traditional PC, so she uses a laptop. and no it's not a matter of Prioritising, her house really is too small and there is nowhere she can put a traditional desktop.

Nebthet78 · October 2014

Rodario wrote: »

What bewilders me is more that someone thinks vanilla skyrim is nice to look at.

1200$ is not gonna buy you a high end rig, close to decent I'd say.

It takes me 1-2 days to get the parts and build a PC. You could always pay 50% more and get an Alienware rig, that's expensive but hassle-free and their machines are very well built and tested before shipping.

EDIT: I don't know if the statement about Alienware is still true now that it's run by Dell. Options seem severly limited when compared to before.

I guess experiences differ, but I don't seem to have nearly as much trouble with PCs as others do.

Console players aren't used to downloading Add-ons to make things look better. Most of us are happy with what we get. We concentrate more on how the game plays and functionality and the actual storyline instead of pretty shiny things most PC gamers get excited about. We also know that games on the PC always look nicer because graphics cards are better and easily upgraded.

Compared to Oblivion, Skyrim's graphics were amazing. Other games I played on consoles were more anime oriented and therefore didn't have anything close to attempting to display a sense of realism to the environment save for cut scenes, but not in the game play its self.

I am more concerned about the inconvenience of having to restart my console every couple of hours because of stuttering and freezing graphics in the middle of playing, like I had to do with Skyrim after the DLCs were added, than I am about applying an add-on that makes the environment or NPCs look prettier. This happened on both 360 and PS3, so there was definitely a coding issue with the game. The funny thing is, is that on my television, whether I am playing on a console or PC, the image looks the same to me when playing.

Additionally, there are a lot of people out there who cannot afford $1200 for a new, middle of the line, PC every few years. For that price, I can buy three new systems over 15+yrs with a few games, where a PC I will have to upgrade every 5-7yrs. It ends up being a big price difference. Nor are there a lot of people technical or comfortable enough to be able to build their own rig. The most I am able to do is add more RAM and a new GC when the time comes.

We also need to consider the fact there are a lot of people out there who prefer to keep their PCs for business/Internet and Consoles for games only because of work.

Also, yes, Alienware is run by DELL, and you can find Medium towers by them that are almost on par with AW models save for more RAM and a better Graphics Card but at less than half the price. When I was buying my new PC I researched both of them and went with a DELL Xperia because of price and the fact that it was nearly identical to a few available AW models. In addition to the fact there were no games being released on a PS4 I wanted and I will never pay over $300 for a console, even if it means waiting a few more years for a price drop.

YES, there is a huge difference in experience when comparing PC gamers to Console gamers.

I know for myself, if it wasn't for the fact that I could download a third party emulator that allows me to use a controller for games I wouldn't be playing ESO right now, I would be waiting for the console release and growing spider webs out of my nose due to how long it is taking.

theyancey · October 2014

Even if the game does launch on console I wonder what size community they will have.

Inversus · October 2014

ESO: coming to consoles in July 2014.
Didn't quite hit that target...

If I were you I'd wait until there's more info surrounding eso coming out to consoles before pre-ordering.

Vatter · October 2014

this game is a disaster. No possible way they can release it to console in its current state. i'd get a new p.c. and play eve.

EJRose83 · October 2014

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Might be a space available issue, someone I know has no room in her house for a traditional PC, so she uses a laptop. and no it's not a matter of Prioritising, her house really is too small and there is nowhere she can put a traditional desktop.

I just don't like the idea of being chained to a desk when I'm playing a game. Laptops I can move around with and with consoles, I can lounge around on my couch or what have you. It's a matter of convenience.

Besides, whenever I decide to buy a new laptop, it will probably be a mac.

Lionxoft · October 2014

Rodario wrote: »

Why anyone would want to play an MMORPG on a console, especially when it's also available on PC, is still beyond me.

To answer your question, it's still available for pre-order.

SOE has a fantastic console MMO title. DCUO on the console is actually thriving even more than the PC version. Some folks just don't want to deal with a keyboard and mouse sometimes. I know that while leveling new characters I can't stand sitting at the keyboard. There's really no reason for me to do so since it is so face roll. I'd rather kick back and enjoy it with a controller in hand. I know that Konk stated that controller support is something they would like to add to the PC version but he didn't make any promises. If it doesn't come to PC before consoles are released then I would consider switching platforms and transferring my characters.

Curragraigue · October 2014

Lionxoft wrote: »

Rodario wrote: »

Why anyone would want to play an MMORPG on a console, especially when it's also available on PC, is still beyond me.

To answer your question, it's still available for pre-order.

SOE has a fantastic console MMO title. DCUO on the console is actually thriving even more than the PC version. Some folks just don't want to deal with a keyboard and mouse sometimes. I know that while leveling new characters I can't stand sitting at the keyboard. There's really no reason for me to do so since it is so face roll. I'd rather kick back and enjoy it with a controller in hand. I know that Konk stated that controller support is something they would like to add to the PC version but he didn't make any promises. If it doesn't come to PC before consoles are released then I would consider switching platforms and transferring my characters.

FF ARR XIV is also doing well on console as another example of a current MMORPG.

No reason why an MMO can't work on console. Just comes down to what the consumer wants as with any other game that is cross platform.

I agree with Rodario that strategy titles don't really work on console (I tried Age of Empires on console it was really bad) and the change for Civ to Civ Revolution for console, while fun was not a real strategy game.

TehMagnus · October 2014

ThePonzzz wrote: »

Rodario wrote: »

Why anyone would want to play an MMORPG on a console, especially when it's also available on PC, is still beyond me.

This seems pretty short-sighted. Consoles are at least primed to handle the graphics. A PC may not have everything to run it smoothly. Hell, I did, and ran the game fine until the lighting changes in July.

Who cares about graphics?

how can you play well without a mouse and keyboard a game that requires AIM and precise movement?

MMOGs on consoles is like FPS on consoles don't understand how people can enjoy without moving/aiming precisely.

Curragraigue · October 2014

magnusnet wrote: »

ThePonzzz wrote: »

Rodario wrote: »

Why anyone would want to play an MMORPG on a console, especially when it's also available on PC, is still beyond me.

This seems pretty short-sighted. Consoles are at least primed to handle the graphics. A PC may not have everything to run it smoothly. Hell, I did, and ran the game fine until the lighting changes in July.

Who cares about graphics? how can you play well without a mouse and keyboard a game that requires AIM and precise movement?

MMOGs on consoles is like FPS on consoles don't understand how people can enjoy without moving/aiming precisely.

You use the controller.

Hardly think this game requires 'precise' aim given that shots from sticks seem to bend and curl in mid air like heat seeking missiles, but I personally find it easier to fire with a controller than with keyboard and mouse in any event.

OP they do seem to have taken down the page they had setting out what comes with the console versions of the game. This may be because they are not selling it directly or because they are updating this page, not sure but maybe some info incoming?

The FAQs states that the game cannot be pre-ordered from the site at this time but can be pre-ordered in stores.

As others have said might want to wait to pre-order until they give a firm date for when they will be releasing on console.

kitsinni · October 2014

If you are comfortable putting down money on a pre-order for a game that was supposed to be released 4 months ago with an announced 6 month delay, and with two months left on that delay, they have yet to ever mention it again I'm sure they will take your pre-order money.

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO · October 2014

Until further notice, I would assume that the console release is never going to happen. Over the years, I have learned to use caution with any kind of vaporware. The release might still happen, but if I were to make a guess from the state of the PC/Mac version of the game and their total silence on the subject since the announcement of the delay, I expect at least a further delay.

Sindala · October 2014

The only way it will get a general release is if ESO ever goes F2P. No console player in their right mind would pay for a home internet connection + the console internet sub +the game sub.
They also need to sort out a working system for 'chat' as console only use voice chat an that's not really gonna work here.

It was a nice idea in theory but one I personally don't think we will see in practice.

kitsinni · October 2014

Sindala wrote: »

The only way it will get a general release is if ESO ever goes F2P. No console player in their right mind would pay for a home internet connection + the console internet sub +the game sub.
They also need to sort out a working system for 'chat' as console only use voice chat an that's not really gonna work here.

It was a nice idea in theory but one I personally don't think we will see in practice.

The chat thing is a huge issue for console MMOs. I saw that recently with Destiny. You group with people but unless they are on your friends list you have no way to chat with them. There is no way to do global chat. Until they figure something out about that I don't see console MMOs being a big hit.

Pallmor · October 2014

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »

Until further notice, I would assume that the console release is never going to happen. Over the years, I have learned to use caution with any kind of vaporware. The release might still happen, but if I were to make a guess from the state of the PC/Mac version of the game and their total silence on the subject since the announcement of the delay, I expect at least a further delay.

To me, the most telling thing is that MS and Sony stopped talking about ESO completely around the same time as the delay announcement. Neither have even mentioned it in passing in their upcoming games promos since (and they include almost EVERYTHING in those promos). Not a word from them at E3 or any conference, even in their 2015 games promotions.

Sallington · October 2014

To the PC users: May your frame rates be high and your draw distance be far.

To the console users: Good luck, and may Gaben have mercy on your soul.

There's literally nothing a console version of ESO can do better, so I don't know why you would downgrade on purpose if you already own it on PC.