And this affects your time in the big brother house how?

I see your point and I do think its an exploit of sorts... but on the other hand... have you tried questing in lower Crag? Its an effin nightmare.

hiyde wrote: »

Yeah that's totally a fair point. But when people are encouraging others to join, and training via Zone chat, and shouting down anyone who dares to kill *all* the mobs in this public landscape location, I'd just hate to see anyone innocent caught up in something that *isn't* sanctioned. so I figured it would be helpful to just be proactive and get a ZoS stamp of approval on this.

I'm completely confused. When I helped kill all the mobs I was informed that I was being reported for 'trolling', which has me completely mystified. I thought the point was to kill them all and if I'm wrong, I'd appreciate it if ZoS would correct me.

I imagine this is on their radar about as much as killing kareth the shadow over and over is.

Can they fix it ?
Probably not.
In which case.....skilled play I guess
Otherwise I would be amazed if you get any response if it cant be fixed.

@Stratti
No these are the 'world bosses' in upper craglorn i believe...They are decently fast xp and half way decent loot...Did this grind myself before they found this 'exploit', so it involves riding location to location.

People abusing Hircine's for quick exp aren't getting any loot. Only the biggest repair bill of the century. But yes, bugging that boss for crazy exp is probably exploiting.

That re-set bug have been there for months. I'm sure ZoS is aware.

I rather grind bosses, quests, delves and anomlies myself. I prefer getting actual items and making some gold, while leveling.

r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »

This is around since they introduced Craglorn, so I guess it's intended... vet levels are a pain to quest, also grinding should be okay. You're not forced to do it anyway.

The only thing the devs have nerfed when it comes to grinding for xp in Craglorn is the anomalies. Everything else has been that way since Update 1 was released back in May.

crislevin wrote: »

As long as they kept upping vr caps, ppl will do it.

The fundamental problem is the vr system, which shows no sign of stopping.

Actually the fundamental problem is the pigheaded way in which ZoS is sticking to their formulaic development of the entire zone and completely ignoring the reality of what is happening out there. If they had actually bothered to listen, let alone go out to the zone and play it for themselves, maybe they might have had the decency to acknowledge that it is as boring as all get out - this coming from a "die-hard grouper/raider"...

@shadowz081 wrote: »

@Stratti
No these are the 'world bosses' in upper craglorn i believe...They are decently fast xp and half way decent loot...Did this grind myself before they found this 'exploit', so it involves riding location to location.

You are both wrong. This isn't the upper Craglorn grind and it's not one of the original lower Craglorn grinds. The OP is talking about a single open world boss mixed with adds. If you only kill the boss without killing any of the adds then the boss will immediately respawn.

I haven't done it but I have watched it being done.

It's obviously an exploit, but ZOS will probably be hesitant to start banning people at a delicate point in their player base... what they really need to do is just hotfix the bosses in some way so they can't be farmed.

hiyde wrote: »

So people are bragging in Craglorn zone chat that they are pulling in "37,000 XP every 7 seconds" by not killing adds on a landscape boss (therefore it keeps respawning). They're educating everyone else in zone chat on exactly how to do it.

One person says they leveled VR 7 to VR 11 in under an hour. Zone: "I don't care about VR exploiting because VR is going away". Wow.

And then there's all the loot they are collecting...by gaming this mechanic.

It's been 36 hours since I filed this as a bug.

Working as intended? Or Exploit?

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌ ?

Vet levels will not go away.
Champion system will work with the vet system.

If someone wants to grind a boss or a location, let them. Does no harm to anyone else. I do a LOT of grinding these days. I maxed out my Templar Main and I am leveling up the rest of the classes. I loved the whole process to get to max level even going through Cadwells Silver & Gold. But I dang sure aint going to go back through it 3 more times. Most of the people I run into in these groups are on their 2nd and 3rd ones as well.

And no, this doesn't cause people to not do the Craglorn Quests. The silly design that forces each member to be on the exact same spot in the quest does. I was with a group of guild mates playing through quests this weekend and while the content was spectacular, the grouping rules were just plain stupid. If you are at VR12 and completed Cadwell's Gold what would you do.....spend 4 hours to complete 1 quest chain having to back track and catch people up to log 2% of the 5mill xp you need to get to 13 or go knock out 13 & 14 in the same amount of time and go back and play those later? Easy, you are going to type LFG ANY GRIND PLEASE!!!!

I don't care if people grind. Everyone has told ZOS that veteran levels suck and they responded by adding more of them, so yeh people are justified in their grinding/exploiting.

timidobserver wrote: »

I don't care if people grind. Everyone has told ZOS that veteran levels suck and they responded by adding more of them, so yeh people are justified in their grinding/exploiting.

THAT! There is a handful of players that seem to scream "give me moar group", same people, just about every. single. time. lack of solo play/end game is even mentioned. Meanwhile, more and more unsub. The largest bulk of players in this game have a fetish for TES, and that is why they are here. If ZOS is content to ignore them and keep pushing content that is largely ignored by the bulk of their subscribers then "exploits" are necessary to keep people subbed. I'd be willing to bet my own subscription if Grindlorn was scaling (single or group) it would be packed with VRs actually doing the quest lines.