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Why is Ebonheart Pact the least popular?

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  • Samwell Slayer
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    Fact is EP owned Chillrend by cheating (putting up troll camps over and over and over) and DC and AD got tired of it and wiped them out. Now EP is butt hurt cuz they do not own a server.
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  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    Fact is EP owned Chillrend by cheating (putting up troll camps over and over and over) and DC and AD got tired of it and wiped them out. Now EP is butt hurt cuz they do not own a server.

    -everyone- has people that put up troll camps on their side.

    Someone from DC was doing it to us in AD, and before that, it was actually a disgruntled AD player.

    I'm fairly certain there are AD people that do it to DC and EP and so on and so forth.
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  • Moonshadow66
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    You are mistaken.
    I have 8 characters, 6 of them are EP. Only the other 2 are DC and AD to see how it is like to start in these areas.
    I love the EP, maybe it's because I love Morrowind and Skyrim so much (the games, I mean).
    EP is my "home" in the game, and it feels odd to be in the other alliances' regions. Well, with my 2 EP VR's, I had to, but I always love to go back to the good old EP areas ;)
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  • MADshadowman
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    Certainly feels that way in PVP. With the decrease in campaigns we can't even put together a buff campaign.

    Meanwhile, out in PVE land, been leveling an alt and Stonefalls, Deshaan, and Shadowfen are mobbed with players

    that's because your guys' pvp leaders only know how to streak/batswarm/impulse!

    WHAT NAOW!?

    Oh yeah, i have never seen anyone else doing this...
  • AlexDougherty
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    I've been playing through all three factions, so I've been playing Ebonheart Pact about a third of the time.

    Can't really say which faction is most/least popular.

    Which is why I went for Skeevers, it's the only one of the three for people who don't actually know.
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  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    Certainly feels that way in PVP. With the decrease in campaigns we can't even put together a buff campaign.

    Meanwhile, out in PVE land, been leveling an alt and Stonefalls, Deshaan, and Shadowfen are mobbed with players

    that's because your guys' pvp leaders only know how to streak/batswarm/impulse!

    WHAT NAOW!?

    Oh yeah, i have never seen anyone else doing this...

    Sorry, I don't normally trash talk about that kind of stuff, but some of your higher ranked players literally only do that. I have yet to see a certain mineral based player do anything other than those three attacks.
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  • MADshadowman
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    Certainly feels that way in PVP. With the decrease in campaigns we can't even put together a buff campaign.

    Meanwhile, out in PVE land, been leveling an alt and Stonefalls, Deshaan, and Shadowfen are mobbed with players

    that's because your guys' pvp leaders only know how to streak/batswarm/impulse!

    WHAT NAOW!?

    Oh yeah, i have never seen anyone else doing this...

    Sorry, I don't normally trash talk about that kind of stuff, but some of your higher ranked players literally only do that. I have yet to see a certain mineral based player do anything other than those three attacks.

    everyone uses these skills, cause it's zerg fest everyday and you would be stupid not to use them. when you get rolled over by a 30-man-zerg train, you better use some effective aoe spells.

    you can watch me if you want and you might see me using some other skills
  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    Certainly feels that way in PVP. With the decrease in campaigns we can't even put together a buff campaign.

    Meanwhile, out in PVE land, been leveling an alt and Stonefalls, Deshaan, and Shadowfen are mobbed with players

    that's because your guys' pvp leaders only know how to streak/batswarm/impulse!

    WHAT NAOW!?

    Oh yeah, i have never seen anyone else doing this...

    Sorry, I don't normally trash talk about that kind of stuff, but some of your higher ranked players literally only do that. I have yet to see a certain mineral based player do anything other than those three attacks.

    everyone uses these skills, cause it's zerg fest everyday and you would be stupid not to use them. when you get rolled over by a 30-man-zerg train, you better use some effective aoe spells.

    you can watch me if you want and you might see me using some other skills

    Hmm I see plenty of different people using different skills in the game. I see three different skills from the people I am talking about.

    My death window is usually a mix of stuff from different classes. Suspiciously, when I fight EP, it is usually just the three aforementioned abilities, oh and sometimes oil.
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  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    Simple answer: Argonians.
  • Pallmor
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    Skeevers! Skeevers everywhere!
    Because they're milk-drinkers who don't have what it takes to be true Nords!

  • Pallmor
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    shadowz081 wrote: »
    most of the people from my guild guild and contact list are AD so I would have very little people to help me out.

    I really do wish that guilds could span factions in this game. I've joined way too many great-sounding guilds only to find out that they only play in some other faction, and just have some tiny token mini-guild in EP. If the Mages Guild and Warriors Guild can span factions, why not player guilds as well?

  • Evergnar
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    Skeevers! Skeevers everywhere!
    Skeevers=Squirrel to Argonians.
  • Shunravi
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    Pallmor wrote: »
    shadowz081 wrote: »
    most of the people from my guild guild and contact list are AD so I would have very little people to help me out.

    I really do wish that guilds could span factions in this game. I've joined way too many great-sounding guilds only to find out that they only play in some other faction, and just have some tiny token mini-guild in EP. If the Mages Guild and Warriors Guild can span factions, why not player guilds as well?

    They can and do span factions. My guilds have members from each faction. Running content together though is not really possible with those from other factions...
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  • Rodario
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    Rodario wrote: »
    If more people thought like I did, then it might be because we didn't want to belong to the faction that is populated by people who only started playing ESO because of Skyrim.

    umm or morrowind.

    Which is fine but beside the point.
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  • GnatB
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    EP is the least attractive environment, at least towards the beginning.

    Initial town is also least convenient. Heck, there isn't even a bank and dye station in the same town in EP's initial (non newb) zone.
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  • Hurbster
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    You are mistaken.
    Blame the devs for not giving Ebonheart a bank. I wonder why Skywatch does ?

    Anyway playing EP teaches you that the other factions are straight up ***.
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  • Cuyler
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Pallmor wrote: »
    shadowz081 wrote: »
    most of the people from my guild guild and contact list are AD so I would have very little people to help me out.

    I really do wish that guilds could span factions in this game. I've joined way too many great-sounding guilds only to find out that they only play in some other faction, and just have some tiny token mini-guild in EP. If the Mages Guild and Warriors Guild can span factions, why not player guilds as well?

    They can and do span factions. My guilds have members from each faction. Running content together though is not really possible with those from other factions...

    I believe what @Pallmor is referring to is that a guild must choose a faction upon creation. The guild members can only benefit from the bonuses collected from pvp (keeps, scrolls, etc.) on the char within that faction. This causes guilds to focus heavily in their chosen faction when playing pvp even though they can have members from every faction.

    For example my guild is AD and I have char in each faction. but only my AD char will have bonuses from pvp collected from that guild. my DC and EP char will not. note: I have DC and EP guilds as well to cover those char bonuses.

    Edit: I choose AD because of the races I choose. wood elf (archer) and high elf (sorc).
    Edited by Cuyler on September 24, 2014 6:51PM
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  • Shunravi
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    Cuyler wrote: »
    Shunravi wrote: »
    Pallmor wrote: »
    shadowz081 wrote: »
    most of the people from my guild guild and contact list are AD so I would have very little people to help me out.

    I really do wish that guilds could span factions in this game. I've joined way too many great-sounding guilds only to find out that they only play in some other faction, and just have some tiny token mini-guild in EP. If the Mages Guild and Warriors Guild can span factions, why not player guilds as well?

    They can and do span factions. My guilds have members from each faction. Running content together though is not really possible with those from other factions...

    I believe what @Pallmor is referring to is that a guild must choose a faction upon creation. The guild members can only benefit from the bonuses collected from pvp (keeps, scrolls, etc.) on the char within that faction. This causes guilds to focus heavily in their chosen faction when playing pvp even though they can have members from every faction.

    For example my guild is AD and I have char in each faction. but only my AD char will have bonuses from pvp collected from that guild. my DC and EP char will not. note: I have DC and EP guilds as well to cover those char bonuses.

    Edit: I choose AD because of the races I choose. wood elf (archer) and high elf (sorc).

    Well, kinda what I meant at the end there...

    But the only kind of guild bonus aside from grouping that I have noticed is the claimed keep store... Maybe I'm missing something.
    Edited by Shunravi on September 24, 2014 6:58PM
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  • KhajiitiLizard
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    The AD and DC quests are just so much more interesting to me (other than Shadowfen as I first played as an Argonian in the Pact).
  • Arsenic_Touch
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    Fact is EP owned Chillrend by cheating (putting up troll camps over and over and over) and DC and AD got tired of it and wiped them out. Now EP is butt hurt cuz they do not own a server.

    AHAHAHAHA. This is bloody hilarious. Who has the troll camps on the most active server? I'll give you a hint, it's not EP.
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  • ThisOnePosts
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    PVP based

    AD and DC have many cheaters and exploiters (no offense), so everyone who likes an easy game just joins them.

    I've done a lot of pvp and one thing i could see from the beginning is that EP seems to have the fairest players. EP tries to play a normal AvA play style focused on getiing keeps and having an emperor.

    What i see AD and DC doing is zerging and farming.

    We apparently play two different games. I have characters in all 3 alliances and while yes the AD will team up WITH EACH OTHER (guilds with guilds, etc.. like a network), EP and DC will more often than any other combo --- team up together against AD. Yeah fair play, normal AvA LOL

    +1 LOL for you
  • Xsorus
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    Population right now is AD>EP>DC

    its always been this way.
  • starkerealm
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    Pallmor wrote: »
    Because they're milk-drinkers who don't have what it takes to be true Nords!

    So... this'd be a bad time to point out both my Pact characters are Bretons? :p
  • Even Odds
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    I started off in AD because I wanted to play a stamina, melee based NB and thought that the Khajit was the best race.

    I soon realized that my DW, Stamina based NB was complete crap and rerolled in DC to play a Breton Healer.

    DC reminds me of Albion in Dark age of Camelot. The scenery reminds me of the Midwest/NE USA. It just feels more realistic and like home to me.

    EP reminds me of Midgard in DAOC and is a little bit to bleak for my taste. I hate winter, and don't care much for thick swamp and volcanic landscape.


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  • PlagueMonk
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    Has to do with the desired races. With the preorder pack you can make any race on any faction, however it's clear that the other factions have better racials than EP does. Which was one of the many reasons why factions were a dumb idea in this game.

    Some will try to argue that the racials really don't matter but we all know that's not true, it's quite clear that certain races are much better for certain classes and playstyles and the racials make quite a difference.

    Then you got the ones that will flock to the dominant pvp side, no matter what.
    Even though cyrodiil is a fraction of the population, it does skew the numbers somewhat.

    Another thing that drove people away from ebonheart? we had the most bugged quests early on, especially quests to get in to veteran content. So people flocked to other factions because they couldn't keep playing their characters and most never went back because it took them a long time to fix the end game for ebonheart at the time.

    THIS is the correct answer.

    I have a pre-account so I can create a race on any faction but we are becoming a rare lot considering those who stopped playing vs those who started.

    When I hear people talking about play Class X, they choose the race with the best racial for their class and inevitably it means one of the AD races.

    IMHO the Argonian's are the coolest race but have the worst racials because NONE of them synergize with a class. They really need to give Argonians passives to sneak/invisibility and all around thievery and you would see EP Arg NB brigades out in PvP.

    Edited by PlagueMonk on September 24, 2014 8:21PM
  • Aevric
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    Just spend 15 minutes listening to zone chat in all 3 alliances. You'll see why a lot of people don't play EP... insults, all sorts of hate-speech, etc.
  • Pseudolo
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    Lizards n mud. Plus a fair percentage of ESO players are probably coming in fresh from Skyrim and if you didn't play Morrowind before then the EP environment may seem very alien.

    Yeah, alien... Until you hit Eastmarch! :s
  • wolfydog
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    In my experiances AD is the least popular.

    I would rank it:

    DF
    EP
    AD

    I have played toons on all 3 factions. The only vet level toon I have in EP and there are a lot of players in Veteran zones, but I cannot compare to other side with that.

    I even rolled another EP noob in this last week and stonefalls is still jamming with people, feels like launch still. Deshaan is pretty populated as well.

    Questing wise I've found EP to be the best. The stuff in stonefalls and Deeshan was just great, but I'm also dark elf biased. I will admit I did lose a bit of intrest in the swamp cause leezards just don't intrest me much. Once I got back to Skyrim it picked up again.

    I also enjoyed AD questing up the point I'm at.

    In DF, so far, not impressed at all. Its feel the most generic to me and just not that inresting. The fact I have little interest in the factions races prob makes it worse.
    Edited by wolfydog on September 24, 2014 9:23PM
  • PBpsy
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    You are mistaken.
    Fact is EP owned Chillrend by cheating (putting up troll camps over and over and over) and DC and AD got tired of it and wiped them out. Now EP is butt hurt cuz they do not own a server.

    AHAHAHAHA. This is bloody hilarious. Who has the troll camps on the most active server? I'll give you a hint, it's not EP.

    Let me guess.The same guys that still put troll camps in Chilrend even if they own it.
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