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Don't quite get why armor glyphs fall short when applied
Caroloces
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I've noticed this for quite awhile now, but I've never pursued an inquiry into it. But today I got fed up and asked (and am asking) why, why, WHY applying glyphs to (in this case) armor the quantity of enchantment falls short of what the glyph is capable of.
Here's the actual example: I have a Moderate Glyph of Health that adds 70 health. When I apply it to a piece of my equipped armor, the resulting enchantment is that it adds 28 Max Health !
What in blazes is going on here???
Here's the actual example: I have a Moderate Glyph of Health that adds 70 health. When I apply it to a piece of my equipped armor, the resulting enchantment is that it adds 28 Max Health !
What in blazes is going on here???
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Resueht✭✭✭The enchantment strength is based on the level and quality of the armor. I'm not sure what the base enchantment on the glyph is referring to, but thats why it differs when you apply it.If she doesn't know the pain of cliffracers, she's too young for you.0 -
smacx250✭✭✭✭✭Also, only the main parts of the armor get the full effect - the smaller ones get a lesser effect.
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eNumbra✭✭✭✭✭Only head chest and legs get full enchantment because they're considered large armor pieces. The other four pieces get gimped.0 -
Dagoth_Rac✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Head, Chest, Legs, Shield = 100% of glyph value
Waist, Feet, Hands, Shoulder = 40% of glyph valueEdited by Dagoth_Rac on September 19, 2014 10:23PM1 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭it should not be this way. if it says it will add 200 health then it should add 200 health.2 -
AlexDougherty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »it should not be this way. if it says it will add 200 health then it should add 200 health.
There are two views on this (further subdivided on minutia), firstly that we should get what the glyphs says, secondly it's ok because it's a smaller piece of gear.
I personally fall into the second category, but I will say that when we hit the enchant option, the details should be telling us what we are actually going to get, not what it would be on a different piece of gear.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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Caroloces✭✭✭✭✭I personally fall into the second category, but I will say that when we hit the enchant option, the details should be telling us what we are actually going to get, not what it would be on a different piece of gear.
I agree with this. One shouldn't be mystified by a certain mechanic in the game that's not self-evident. I've been playing since Beta and I've never seen any reference anywhere to this particular mechanic. But it does make sense that the smaller pieces of armor should carry diminishing enchantment power. I wish I had known that, however, before I started applying hi-level enchantments to boots and pauldrons, rather than preserving them for chest, legs and head.0 -
smacx250✭✭✭✭✭AlexDougherty wrote: »I personally fall into the second category, but I will say that when we hit the enchant option, the details should be telling us what we are actually going to get, not what it would be on a different piece of gear.
I think that it does. When the enchant box comes up on the left it shows the current item, and on the right what the item will become. The tooltip for the new item shows the actual enchantment type and level that will be obtained.
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Gillysan✭✭✭✭
This mechanic has been know since before the game came out. Every guide I read mentioned it.I personally fall into the second category, but I will say that when we hit the enchant option, the details should be telling us what we are actually going to get, not what it would be on a different piece of gear.
I agree with this. One shouldn't be mystified by a certain mechanic in the game that's not self-evident. I've been playing since Beta and I've never seen any reference anywhere to this particular mechanic. But it does make sense that the smaller pieces of armor should carry diminishing enchantment power. I wish I had known that, however, before I started applying hi-level enchantments to boots and pauldrons, rather than preserving them for chest, legs and head.
There are a lot of tool tips in this game that need rewording. Add this to the list I suppose.Edited by Gillysan on September 21, 2014 3:01PMCrafting Services http://tinyurl.com/GillysansStore Organizational Guide http://tinyurl.com/GillysansEnchanterLeveling
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Rune_Relic✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dagoth_Rac wrote: »Head, Chest, Legs, Shield = 100% of glyph value
Waist, Feet, Hands, Shoulder = 40% of glyph value
Yet everything except gloves/belt take 100% armour ?
Thanks for bringing this up OP...troubled me too lol.Edited by Rune_Relic on September 21, 2014 3:18PMAnything that can be exploited will be exploited0 -
Caroloces✭✭✭✭✭This mechanic has been know since before the game came out. Every guide I read mentioned it.
/facepalm
Odd that I never picked up on it. But Smacx is correct, hovering over before and after in the actual enchant window does specify that exact enchant values that are given.
Thanks for all the help on this, though I should have picked it up myself. lol.2 -
Gillysan✭✭✭✭I give you major points for admitting you made a mistake. I was actually expecting an angry reply instead.
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AlexDougherty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭AlexDougherty wrote: »I personally fall into the second category, but I will say that when we hit the enchant option, the details should be telling us what we are actually going to get, not what it would be on a different piece of gear.
I think that it does. When the enchant box comes up on the left it shows the current item, and on the right what the item will become. The tooltip for the new item shows the actual enchantment type and level that will be obtained.
I tried it yesterday, yeah it does do that, whoops.People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
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Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
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Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
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